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I was told Colonial Liqueurs in Acton was going to close. Get out and warn the others!!!If this is true, then I have made a fatal error in my prepping strategy.
As I said have been activated probably 8 tiles for natural disasters. Never once been issued a weapon .....loaded or unloaded. Only issuing of weapons for a disaster was the Springfield tornado and it was just mp doing presence patrols and they were loaded side arms.How do you define armed? Does carrying an empty weapon with no ammo on the soldiers person armed?
Unlike police, it is not about everyone going home at night regardless of the cost in human life. It is not uncommon for national guard members to be ordered to carry unloaded firearms (with no ammo in possession) as a symbol of authority rather than an actual defensive tool. Someone in the guard please correct me if I am wrong about this.
State active duty for disaster relief doesn't pay shit. It's a totally different system if pay......they don't get full pay and benefits for state active duty. Last time I had access to the system an e4 or below was $110 a day for state duty and a day is 24 hours.Let us also not forget that Pvt. Snuffy is earning your hard earned tax dollars to hand out supplies, filter water and curb stomp you; otherwise, he may be home bored because his job laid him off for the time being. So that's good, right?
What's your bet? Feds know about an asteroid? Aliens coming? Super-volcano about to erupt? I don't think this is a drill for anything, but you can be certain that officials are taking notes and will be conducting very in-depth analysis to take away lessons learned from this.
How do you define armed? Does carrying an empty weapon with no ammo on the soldiers person armed?
Unlike police, it is not about everyone going home at night regardless of the cost in human life. It is not uncommon for national guard members to be ordered to carry unloaded firearms (with no ammo in possession) as a symbol of authority rather than an actual defensive tool. Someone in the guard please correct me if I am wrong about this.
State active duty for disaster relief doesn't pay shit. It's a totally different system if pay......they don't get full pay and benefits for state active duty. Last time I had access to the system an e4 or below was $110 a day for state duty and a day is 24 hours.
This is very logical. 7 days ago Trump declared a national emergency, since then the virus has exploded and shows no signs of slowing until half the country is infected. When college aged druggies are ignoring the social distancing calls and the hardest hit nations in Europe are in lockdown then it's obvious we will be in lockdown soon.View attachment 340133
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I was thinking of when acting Gov Swift activated the NG at logan to do ID checks. From the reports I read, I think the guardspeople stationed at the airport were wearing unloaded M9s but, those reports could have been wrong.I cant really add to what was already mentioned because those are the facts. What youre suggesting hasnt been the case since I enlisted in 2005. If we're issued weapons and ammo on state land it was to protect property from looting and for deterance.
Assuming they use the guard for things like delivering food, will they be carrying guns without ammo as a show of authority?
State active duty doesn't pay health care. Listen carefully to what I just told you. It's not "lack of bah". It's a totally different pay system. Falls under MEMA. They get $110 a day paid by the Commonwealth of mass not department of defense.Right. No BAH. But to Joe it's still money and healthcare for his family in the mean time.
The mp units in Springfield had m9 to protect LIFE (theirs or others) not property.I was thinking of when acting Gov Swift activated the NG at logan to do ID checks. From the reports I read, I think the guardspeople stationed at the airport were wearing unloaded M9s.
Was the guard authorized to shoot to stop looting? That's the only way a loaded gun would offer protection.
This. And if the mp has a side arm there is ammo issued.It's ultra rare for any NG units outside of MPs to carry firearms with ammunition while activated. The reasons are numerous.
State active duty doesn't pay health care. Listen carefully to what I just told you. It's not "lack of bah". It's a totally different pay system. Falls under MEMA. They get $110 a day paid by the Commonwealth of mass not department of defense.
Last time I was activated we were not even getting an Les for state active duty. It was a live check from the state of mass.Got it. I was CTARNG so it may be completey different wity regard to pay. It's been awhile since I was last activated (Sandy) so Ive forgotten what LES's looked like.
Was the guard authorized to shoot to stop looting? That's the only way a loaded gun would offer protection.
The mp units in Springfield had m9 to protect LIFE (theirs or others) not property.
Was the guard authorized to shoot to stop looting? That's the only way a loaded gun would offer protection.
If they are armed I'm 99.9% sure it's for force protection.....not the offensive of searching house to house for guns.
...Only issuing of weapons for a disaster was the Springfield tornado and it was just mp doing presence patrols and they were loaded side arms.
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The mp units in Springfield had m9 to protect LIFE (theirs or others) not property.
I was privy to the orders the mp units received in Springfield. They were there for patrols to deter looting. Their side arms were issued to protect only life .....not property.Agreed, but
That’s not force protection. You said 99% chance if they’re carrying, it will be for force protection. But then you say the only time you can remember when MA NG we’re armed in a disaster was to conduct presence patrols. Those don’t jive. I’m not saying they’ll be going door to door like in New Orleans, but presence patrols are an escalation and projection of power. It’s not like providing security for food stores or logistics distribution points.
It's a hybrid. Very vaguelyIt's been over twenty years since I was in the NG, and it was in another (and FAR different) state. Things have changed, clearly.
So @whacko, while Joe is activated on state orders, is he subject to UCMJ or state law? Or some weirdo hybrid? Like, to what extent is he protected in case he has to defend himself against someone?
I was privy to the orders the mp units received in Springfield. They were there for patrols to deter looting. Their side arms were issued to protect only life .....not property.
Spot on .I've been saying this for years, Combat Troops do NOT make good cops. Been saying it since we deployed them on the SW border. Unless the 'rules' change, don't send them. They are not law enforcement. Maybe MP's, but from friends in the .mil, they said to never trust MPs.
"We are from the government and are here to help"
Everything "non-essential" in PA is closedDon't see why not. Apparently PA has closed the gun shops. (was looking online for an item, and site said that the they were closed per the governor's order.)
I Respect you.all the best, I didn’t think a like would convey the thought.I am exempt. So i get to commute to work through this crap. Lovely.