Colorado Gov. Jared Polis Signs Insanely Unconstitutional Gun Control Law With Huge National Implications: Now Fixed Mags

[Reptile]

If you care about preserving the Second Amendment, what just happened in Colorado needs to be on your radar.

On Thursday, Gov. Jared Polis signed a law that bans the production and most sales of semi-automatic firearms with detachable magazines. That means the gun control measure not only covers semi-automatic rifles like the AR-15 (which would be bad enough on its own) but also makes essentially all modern-day handguns illegal as well.

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Colorado Gov. Jared Polis Signs Insanely Unconstitutional Gun Control Law With Huge National Implications

redstate.com

 

[Foudre]

This is why people who say they left Massachusetts to "escape the tyranny" and "you're on your own bro" will get f***ed anyways if other states are permitted to make these guns illegal, it could set a precedent which could help other states ban them too. For those who say "I'll have my guns and be able to enjoy them in my lifetime", that's more of a selfish attitude that does no good.

This anti-2A shit needs to be shut down.

 

[granitestater]

That’s not entirely accurate. He signed a bill requiring anyone who wants to purchase semi-automatic firearms (including ARs) to obtain a permit, which involves completing training. Honestly, I don’t have an issue with the training requirement

The second amendment does not require training. But Let’s see what the training has to include. It could have very strict rules which can be abused to shut down gun sales.

 

[Mark from ?]

That’s not entirely accurate. He signed a bill requiring anyone who wants to purchase semi-automatic firearms (including ARs) to obtain a permit, which involves completing training. Honestly, I don’t have an issue with the training requirement

What kind of training? Active shooter training? Mental Health Training? Emergency Response training?

Permits lead to abuses to obtain the permit and suitability schemes as we see in MA, training is so fxcking vague its not even funny......

 

[PappyM3]

That’s not entirely accurate. He signed a bill requiring anyone who wants to purchase semi-automatic firearms (including ARs) to obtain a permit, which involves completing training. Honestly, I don’t have an issue with the training requirement

Paid for by the permit applicant?

Yeah, screw poor people. They don’t deserve to exercise their freedoms.

 

[LittleCalm]

Sorry, but I disagree that training can be mandated and think that is fudd land. All guns can be used in a dangerous manner and can be lethal. Trying to split hairs and say that some require training while others don’t, or that some are more lethal than others, is splitting hairs. The constitution does not require training, period, and none is needed for the overwhelming majority of gun owners. Would they be safer with training? Of course. But it is simply not the that there is some crisis that training is going to solve. Once again, training requirements will have no effect on crime, so why the burden on law abiding gun owners? Now, to be clear, I think it is generally advisable for people to get firearms training regardless of the type of gun they own, but it is simply not constitutionally required.

 

[Reptile]

That’s not entirely accurate. He signed a bill requiring anyone who wants to purchase semi-automatic firearms (including ARs) to obtain a permit, which involves completing training. Honestly, I don’t have an issue with the training requirement

They said banning production of guns.

Edit:

Hmmm they didn't mention training in the article but did so else ware.

 

[sig shooter]

I’m 100% with you and totally agree. But what Reptile posted was definitely an exaggerated headline meant to grab attention. I’m from Colorado, and even after that bill was signed, you can still walk into any gun store and buy revolvers, shotguns, and centerfire rifles without a permit
I think requiring training to use a semi-auto isn’t a bad idea—especially for Gen Z

you’re a leftists wet dream. Fuddy duddy to the max. Get out of here with that training bullshit and read the constitution.

 

[Laderbuilt]

That’s not entirely accurate. He signed a bill requiring anyone who wants to purchase semi-automatic firearms (including ARs) to obtain a permit, which involves completing training. Honestly, I don’t have an issue with the training requirement

I understand why you would think that. Guns can be dangerous if you don’t know anything about them. However what other constitutionally enumerated right do you need a permit or training for.
Do you need to be trained or get a permit on how free speech works, do you need to be trained and get a permission slip to be able to vote? How about to the plead the 5.
Any barrier to your rights is an infringement upon those rights or a right denied. If that’s the case it’s a not a right granted to you by the creator but by the .gov.
The constitution does not grant you your rights. It’s telling the .gov that it’s already yours not theirs.

 

[1sern]

That’s not entirely accurate. He signed a bill requiring anyone who wants to purchase semi-automatic firearms (including ARs) to obtain a permit, which involves completing training. Honestly, I don’t have an issue with the training requirement

Pass a f'ing reading comprehension test for using free speech, Stalin.

Enjoy your government largesse that lets you pretend to be a citizen

 

[GM-GUY]

A test to see if you can exercise a right historically doesn't go well. Does anyone remember the 'tests' they used to prevent blacks from voting in the south? The 3rd degree inquisition for a waiver from the vax?

It's either a right or it's a privilege.

 

[VTski4x4]

Lets see how many bootlickers out themselves in this thread......

 

[CMEBoston]

I’m 100% with you and totally agree. But what Reptile posted was definitely an exaggerated headline meant to grab attention. I’m from Colorado, and even after that bill was signed, you can still walk into any gun store and buy revolvers, shotguns, and centerfire rifles without a permit
I think requiring training to use a semi-auto isn’t a bad idea—especially for Gen Z

But can you buy a semi auto pistol or AR-15? No? That’s an infringement K?

 

[MickeyD’s]

A test to see if you can exercise a right historically doesn't go well. Does anyone remember the 'tests' they used to prevent blacks from voting in the south? The 3rd degree inquisition for a waiver from the vax?

It's either a right or it's a privilege.

Unless it’s guns and the 2nd

It’s 100% a privilege and you can thank the likes of Drill and the rest for that

 

[HARRYM]

Anybody know what other Amendments require training in order to be afforded the rights under the Amendment.....

 

[Andy in NH]

Anybody know what other Amendments require training in order to be afforded the rights under the Amendment.....

@Drill Baby Drill I can feel this coming on...

 

[OnTheRoad]

Honestly, I don’t have an issue with the training requirement

Then feel free to go out and get all the training you want. Nobody's stopping you.

Other people have legitimate concerns with training requirements as has been pretty clearly expressed (and will likely continue to be expressed). It doesn't bother you at all that you're endorsing roadblocks to the exercise of an enumerated right?

 

[LittleCalm]

I don’t think you can make analogies to other protected rights. You’ll always be up against the apples to oranges argument, ie that guns are physical devices that can inflict direct and immediate physical harm. That’s quite different than voting or other protected rights. I think the better arguments are that there is zero in the plain text of the 2A re training, under Bruen I assume there is no historic precedent for it, and, finally, what purpose does it serve other than to be a barrier to exercise of the right (it certainly has nothing to do with deterring crime). A nanny state would argue that training helps protect the user (like when you get those suicide prevention leaflets), but, again, it’s impossible to see that as a basis for denying the exercise of such a fundamental right to defend oneself.

 

[HARRYM]

Then feel free to go out and get all the training you want. Nobody's stopping you.

Other people have legitimate concerns with training requirements as has been pretty clearly expressed (and will likely continue to be expressed). It doesn't bother you at all that you're endorsing roadblocks to the exercise of an enumerated right?

My Constitutional rights are not subjected to other peoples opinion. It's as clear as that.

 

[Drill Baby Drill]

Then feel free to go out and get all the training you want. Nobody's stopping you.

Other people have legitimate concerns with training requirements as has been pretty clearly expressed (and will likely continue to be expressed). It doesn't bother you at all that you're endorsing roadblocks to the exercise of an enumerated right?

I think you missed my point. Some people—especially certain members of Gen Z who can’t even change a light bulb—seriously need proper training. I’ve seen it firsthand at gun ranges: officers yelling at them because they have no idea how to handle a firearm safely.

 

[bigbravehog]

That’s not entirely accurate. He signed a bill requiring anyone who wants to purchase semi-automatic firearms (including ARs) to obtain a permit, which involves completing training. Honestly, I don’t have an issue with the training requirement

No

 

[Mark from ?]

I think you missed my point. Some people—especially certain members of Gen Z who can’t even change a light bulb—seriously need proper training. I’ve seen it firsthand at gun ranges: officers yelling at them because they have no idea how to handle a firearm safely.

Your not going to get most (hopefully) on here to agree with you, even using GenZ retards as an example......your example is there are a few retards...so EVERYONE now has to be inconvienced because of it. That's stupid.

A lot of people here are from MA and under a suitability from the local Police Chief clause in the law to even own any gun. Even if they can, they are restricted to 10 round mags, Pistol LISTS.... they can and can't buy, and no AR's, lowers, assault whatever they are..... now EVER.

Last I checked the new laws are requiring some really retarded training to get a License to Carry now in MA...... mental health, active shooter, live fire...etc.....They have storage laws, guns must be cased laws, guns must be secured and locked in your own house laws....... on and on...and if something aint right with Johnny Law.....they pull your LTC and you lose your gun rights on a whim without proper due process.

All that is in play in MA.....NONE of it constitutional....yet it stands. You want THAT? Cause that's where this shit ends up....especially when you get enough California retards moving into Colorado.

MA people here hate it and many people like me have moved partly because of it......and the other liberal retarded stuff that goes on that raises cost of living and taxes the shit out of you to pay for these illegal schemes.

Read 2A......it says nothing about suitability, permits and training....and the use of it, especially in places like NY. NJ and MA are severely abused by the governments there. Everybody thinks its a good idea for safety...well....that was the original scheme of LTC's in MA....and look what it became.....a total 2A clusterfxck.

Permits.....first its shall issue...then its we'll give it to you with training......then its well, we don't know if we like you having a gun for X reason........Don't give an inch....they will take a fxcking mile.....I guarantee it.

Sorry for the rant...but I escaped this and now live in freedom.....would never want to go back to it, and suggest like hell you dont enable it with some justification that GenZ gets yelled at, so now we all have to get permits.

 

[PappyM3]

I don’t think you can make analogies to other protected rights. You’ll always be up against the apples to oranges argument, ie that guns are physical devices that can inflict direct and immediate physical harm. That’s quite different than voting or other protected rights. I think the better arguments are that there is zero in the plain text of the 2A re training, under Bruen I assume there is no historic precedent for it, and, finally, what purpose does it serve other than to be a barrier to exercise of the right (it certainly has nothing to do with deterring crime). A nanny state would argue that training helps protect the user (like when you get those suicide prevention leaflets), but, again, it’s impossible to see that as a basis for denying the exercise of such a fundamental right to defend oneself.

Yeah, voting results never have the possibility of increasing deaths.

 

[PappyM3]

I’ll say I’m all for training. And some training should be subsidized by the government.
… just voluntary.

 

[LittleCalm]

Yeah, voting results never have the possibility of increasing deaths.

Not sure if you’re being sarcastic. Just saying that these analogies just are never going to resonate with anyone beyond 2A supporters. So I’d stick to Bruen etc.

 

[PappyM3]

Not sure if you’re being sarcastic. Just saying that these analogies just are never going to resonate with anyone beyond 2A supporters. So I’d stick to Bruen etc.

You may be correct, but that’s because they can’t reason the 2nd and 3rd order effects of their decisions.

 

[Parker Schreiber]

Actual law here:

https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2025A/bills/2025a_003_enr.pdf

Worth noting:
(II) "SPECIFIED SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARM" DOES NOT INCLUDE:
(D) A SINGLE OR DOUBLE ACTION SEMIAUTOMATIC HANDGUN THAT USES RECOIL TO CYCLE THE ACTION OF THE HANDGUN;

So while the redstate article is incorrect in part, the law is still odious.

 

[Individualist]

It’s either a Right or it isn’t. That is all that needs to be said.

Requiring ANYTHING - a fee, a license, a picture, fingerprints, training, insurance, registration,,, turns it into a privilege not a Right.

 

[kevin9]

<crosses Colorado off retirement destination list>

Actually it's been off the list for years, starting when John Denver and all the hippies and tree-huggers started moving in. Observation shows that such folks talk all about freedom and sticking-it-to-the-man until they become "the man" at which time they become some of the most oppressive politicians and government leaders.

This law needs to be stayed, then overturned, pronto, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[Dennis in MA]

This is why people who say they left Massachusetts to "escape the tyranny" and "you're on your own bro" will get f***ed anyways if other states are permitted to make these guns illegal, it could set a precedent which could help other states ban them too. For those who say "I'll have my guns and be able to enjoy them in my lifetime", that's more of a selfish attitude that does no good.

This anti-2A shit needs to be shut down.

Preach it, brother Foudre! Amen and Hallelujah!