Criminal background check before buying 3d Printer

[Maxrobot]

N.Y. Assembly Bill A8132-2024 Legislative Session​

Relates to criminal history background checks for the purchase of three-dimensional printers capable of creating firearms.

NY State Assembly Bill 2023-A8132

Requires a criminal history background check for the purchase of a three-dimensional printer capable of creating firearms; prohibits sale to a person who would be disqualified on the basis of criminal history from being granted a license to possess a firearm.

www.nysenate.gov

 

[Kevin_NH]

Relates to criminal history background checks for the purchase of three-dimensional printers capable of creating firearms.

NY State Assembly Bill 2023-A8132

Requires a criminal history background check for the purchase of a three-dimensional printer capable of creating firearms; prohibits sale to a person who would be disqualified on the basis of criminal history from being granted a license to possess a firearm.

www.nysenate.gov

Joke's on New York--we'll just print them instead.

The really sucky part of this is below the fold -- it's no instant check, but rather an implicit fifteen day waiting period. You can get a nice zero-paperwork 3D printer drop shipped from China quicker than that!

 

[nordic alien]

is there a clause for a straw buyer

 

[snax]

3d printer companies will just come out and state "cannot print a firearm" on the box.

 

[Mesatchornug]

Joke's on New York--we'll just print them instead.

The really sucky part of this is below the fold -- it's no instant check, but rather an implicit fifteen day waiting period. You can get a nice zero-paperwork 3D printer drop shipped from China quicker than that!

 

[HorizontalHunter]

This country has lost its ever loving mind.

 

[AJK129]

Can just make your own 3d printer too

 

[paul73]

N.Y. Assembly Bill A8132-2024 Legislative Session​

Relates to criminal history background checks for the purchase of three-dimensional printers capable of creating firearms.

NY State Assembly Bill 2023-A8132

Requires a criminal history background check for the purchase of a three-dimensional printer capable of creating firearms; prohibits sale to a person who would be disqualified on the basis of criminal history from being granted a license to possess a firearm.

www.nysenate.gov

and don`t forget criminal possession of the hand drill and vise of mass destruction in your tool shed.

like, you thought that meme was a joke? the joke is always on YOU , damn plebs.

 

[Edek Kasica]

You will need a permit to conceal carry one too, a CCP permit.

 

[Coda]

Do they have serial numbers already or will you need to add them before you register your 3D printer?

 

[EC1]

Remember:

Hank Johnson Worries Guam Could "Capsize" After Marine Buildup​

Hank Johnson Worries Guam Could "Capsize" After Marine Buildup
you can't be too stupid to be a democrat or democratic voter.

 

[Edek Kasica]

Remember:

Hank Johnson Worries Guam Could "Capsize" After Marine Buildup​

Hank Johnson Worries Guam Could "Capsize" After Marine Buildup
you can't be too stupid to be a democrat or democratic voter.

He said the same shit years ago, good drugs he uses

 

[EC1]

yup from 2010,

 

[ldi]

Is flatulence taxed today ?
Asking for a friend

 

[DJBrad]

Is flatulence taxed today ?
Asking for a friend

Not yet but OF thots make a killin on a sealed jar of queefs

 

[milktree]

3. FOR PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, "THREE-DIMENSIONAL PRINTER" MEANS A
COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A
THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL.

So... a CNC lathe counts as a printer, "for the purposes of this section"?

 

[APFSDS]

So... a CNC lathe counts as a printer, "for the purposes of this section"?

Both use G-code, not a model directly. You need software (a slicer or CAM software) to basically convert the 3d model into tool paths for the machine (mill, lathe, 3d printer) to use.

 

[milktree]

Both use G-code, not a model directly. You need software (a slicer or CAM software) to basically convert the 3d model into tool paths for the machine (mill, lathe, 3d printer) to use.

I'm not sure that distinction is one that the courts (or anyone, really) is going to find meaningful.

 

[JackOfAllTrades]

So... a CNC lathe counts as a printer, "for the purposes of this section"?

You could argue that lathes and mills are "subtractive" rather than "additive" and are therefore not "printers". They would be "erasers".

 

[milktree]

You could argue that lathes and mills are "subtractive" rather than "additive" and are therefore not "printers". They would be "erasers".

I would absolutely argue that, as would anyone with a brain.

But the law, as written, doesn't make that distinction:

3. FOR PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, "THREE-DIMENSIONAL PRINTER" MEANS A
COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A
THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL.

Note that in this definition there's nothing that says anything about additive or subtrative machine; just "machine or device"

 

[VetteGirlMA]

The crazy thing is the bill basically outlaws all 3d printers. So an entire generation of kids who will probably need skills like this when they grow up will know nothing because they grew up in New York State. Basically proof that in NYS at least they don't want smart workers they want doofuses just smart enough to do stupid time killing, sould crushing jobs. When NY loses jobs because their kids are too dumb I wonder if they will smarten up and blame the idiot politicians.

 

[namedpipes]

N.Y. Assembly Bill A8132-2024 Legislative Session​

Relates to criminal history background checks for the purchase of three-dimensional printers capable of creating firearms.

NY State Assembly Bill 2023-A8132

Requires a criminal history background check for the purchase of a three-dimensional printer capable of creating firearms; prohibits sale to a person who would be disqualified on the basis of criminal history from being granted a license to possess a firearm.

www.nysenate.gov

Do they not realize you can build one from scrap parts, other than perhaps the controller board, which is not specific to 3-d printers but can be used in home automation, Christmas light controllers, entertainment systems, Real Doll animation components...

 

[namedpipes]

The crazy thing is the bill basically outlaws all 3d printers. So an entire generation of kids who will probably need skills like this when they grow up will know nothing because they grew up in New York State. Basically proof that in NYS at least they don't want smart workers they want doofuses just smart enough to do stupid time killing, sould crushing jobs. When NY loses jobs because their kids are too dumb I wonder if they will smarten up and blame the idiot politicians.

I'm not about to read the whole bill, but if this imposes a background check, presumably you could complete the purchase if you're not a criminal.

So, you could legally possess one, but the unwashed public would regard 3d printer owners the same way they regard gun owners, or certain demographic groups: with suspicion and discrimination.

 

[Mesatchornug]

So... a CNC lathe counts as a printer, "for the purposes of this section"?

Legislators legislating legislation they don't understand?

 

[namedpipes]

Both use G-code, not a model directly. You need software (a slicer or CAM software) to basically convert the 3d model into tool paths for the machine (mill, lathe, 3d printer) to use.

I assume you were pointing out that if the 3d printer itself does not incorporate a slicer, then it does not meet the definition the bill tries to address. In other words, the legal effect is NULL. Unless a manufacturer deliberately built an end-to-end system that did have that function.

 

[Edek Kasica]

Logically, shouldn't they be considered machine guns?

 

[Edek Kasica]

The crazy thing is the bill basically outlaws all 3d printers. So an entire generation of kids who will probably need skills like this when they grow up will know nothing because they grew up in New York State. Basically proof that in NYS at least they don't want smart workers they want doofuses just smart enough to do stupid time killing, sould crushing jobs. When NY loses jobs because their kids are too dumb I wonder if they will smarten up and blame the idiot politicians.

Maybe they want kids to start with the basics. I saw an Afghani use files to mill a slide for a 1911.

 

[paul73]

Legislators legislating legislation they don't understand?

It is getting annoying to see how every single Orwellian thing I shitpost about comes to be. Crazy

 

[Joeldiaz]

To be honest, I believe the likelihood of this actually getting passed is close to nil. It seems like one of those initiatives that politicians endorse primarily for the sake of being able to claim they made an effort.

 

[ReluctantDecoy]

Requires a criminal history background check for the purchase of a three-dimensional printer capable of creating firearms; prohibits sale to a person who would be disqualified on the basis of criminal history from being granted a license to possess a firearm.

Am I going to jail? Proposal is unclear.