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not needed if you know what you are doing
agree there is nothing better but it can be done without one, but on that I think I am preaching to the choir
Honestly, my wife and I are Cub Scout den leaders. The vast majority of parents cannot light a campfire with a box of matches. I'm dead serious.
and that is why so many will die. if SHTF and I mean really not Hurricane Sandy type a lot of people will die, people will be killed so others can take their stuff. people will have their stuff taken and be left to die.I think it's important to remember if SHTF you're not surrounded by Rambos, Bear Grylls or Les Strouds. Hell, not even NES keyboard commandos. Most people haven't the slightest clue how to light a fire with matches or a lighter, let alone with fire steel or a bow drill.
Honestly, my wife and I are Cub Scout den leaders. The vast majority of parents cannot light a campfire with a box of matches. I'm dead serious.
Booze...learn to make it and have the materials you need to distill it. Shtf I know I'm going to need a drink.
My job takes me from the farms of Maine to downtown Boston. People in Boston think they have it all together. They look down on simple farmers because of what they don't have. When there is the slightest problem in Boston with our equipment they all stand around wondering what to do. In Maine that simple farmer adapts and overcomes. They know how to raise animals,plant crops, and survive without .
It amazes me how many skill these guys have.
u r out of your MIND. disposable diapers! hah. 3-4 of the old style, that you wash out each day, will be the best that can be done. Basically, infants willdie in short order, if shtf, so will the elderly and the infirm. It's going to get so grim, so fast, that you wont believe it. 10% will die within a month of the power's going offf and staying off. so many are THAT dependent upon it, and so many will be looting and killing, that soon. there will be no trading of any kind, for a year after shtf, cause to be detected will mean that you get killed, or contact will get you some contagious disease, etc. So the only realistic thing to do will be to hide out all day, come out only at night, and avoid everyone, for a year. by then, 90-99% of the people will be dead, so things will have calmed down a lot. The ideal trading material will be .22lr ammo, and silencers for same, if you have a way to internally thread the muzzzles of .22 barrels, and have a stash of such cans, with the male thread protruding from the rear of the can. Booze, dope, tobacco, etc, are for morons. you REALLY want to be around a bunch of morons a year after shtf, (assuming thaat such people last that long, of course)? want to waste your time and money preparing to trade with them? what could they POSSIBLY have that you will need, hmm?
I think it's important to remember if SHTF you're not surrounded by Rambos, Bear Grylls or Les Strouds. Hell, not even NES keyboard commandos. Most people haven't the slightest clue how to light a fire with matches or a lighter, let alone with fire steel or a bow drill.
Honestly, my wife and I are Cub Scout den leaders. The vast majority of parents cannot light a campfire with a box of matches. I'm dead serious.
Ditto on bartering. "Value" of an item is dictated by supply/demand. Oh...and sex. Sex is always worth something.![]()
Every time I offer to take-it-out-in-trade with a women, she's not interest. I'm not sure sex is a good bartering option for me. [sad2]