Desert Eagle in 50AE vs Squib. Guess who won?

[Broc Tuah]

The squib of course, unfortunately.

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Not sure of the specifics but the shooter was ok.

I was not the shooter.

 

[milktree]

Is this the guy that has that DE??

View: https://youtu.be/3-PjBmw19uM?si=tQruk4C3Cp8UGpgz

What a dumb-ass.

That might have almost been a useful video if he'd been up front about the barrel obstruction. Was that a bullet rammed into the barrel, simulating a squib? Did he pour lead in there, or is it crammed with dirt? Was the ammo factory ammo, or did he handload it with way too much of way too fast a powder?

It sure looks like the same gun, the vice marks on the grips look the same.

 

[safetyfirst2125]

The squib of course, unfortunately.

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Not sure of the specifics but the shooter was ok.

The problem with a spectacularly powerful caliber is: when something goes wrong it’s spectacular.

ETA: dumb ass.

 

[paul73]

What a dumb-ass.

That might have almost been a useful video if he'd been up front about the barrel obstruction. Was that a bullet rammed into the barrel, simulating a squib? Did he pour lead in there, or is it crammed with dirt? Was the ammo factory ammo, or did he handload it with way too much of way too fast a powder?

It sure looks like the same gun, the vice marks on the grips look the same.

there are so much shit on youtube now, it is hardly worth watching, as you will never know if it was real, or a fake made exclusively to generate clicks.
garbage platform. and everything now is at least 10min long.

 

[Agnotology]

This is true - people try to buy the absolute cheapest ammo out there like New Republic and then are surprised when it causes problems. Buy the name brands and pay what 5% more and at least have some peace of mind.

I'm just shy of 1500 rounds into New Republic 115g 9mm with 0 failures of any kind over the past 2 years, across 8 different batch numbers. I

A guy I ordered 2,000 rounds of New Republic 5.56 SS109/M855 is about 3/4 through his and had some light primer strikes but was only with an 80s Mini-14. It's had a rough life, probably time for a new firing pin/extractor + springs for both. No issue with his 2 AR's or his bolt gun. Accuracy is what is to be expected of M855 as well. Lake City was $12XX for 2000 rounds at the time, NR was $773. 50% more for no appreciable increase in value. Obviously, YMMV.

Steel cased stuff is the real skinflint ammo. What you save on the ammo you spend on extractors.

 

[Agnotology]

there are so much shit on youtube now, it is hardly worth watching, as you will never know if it was real, or a fake made exclusively to generate clicks.
garbage platform. and everything now is at least 10min long.

That was Kentucky Ballistics, and after his near-death experience with his RN-50 blowing up, and realizing there was a huge market for watching guns explode after re-creating his RN-50 explosion, he blows up guns regularly. His norm is 3x more than max pressure with a barrel obstruction for good measure. In that video, the round he used peaks at 470,000 PSI. The gun gave up well before that though.

 

[drgrant]

The squib of course, unfortunately.

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Not sure of the specifics but the shooter was ok.

Whats cool about this, is based on @Broc Tuah MRI BFR explosion, they at least design the guns to blow up this way, that could have been 100x worse.

 

[drgrant]

I avoid Double Tap Ammo completely. I got squids on two separate lots of 45 Colt ammo. They refunded me, but the safety issue isn't worth it when there's Buffalo Bore and Underwood out there making great ammo.

Doubletap used to be real good ages ago but that guy folded like a cheap whore and chinsed out on his product and kept taking the cash.

 

[paul73]

That was Kentucky Ballistics, and after his near-death experience with his RN-50 blowing up, and realizing there was a huge market for watching guns explode after re-creating his RN-50 explosion, he blows up guns regularly. His norm is 3x more than max pressure with a barrel obstruction for good measure. In that video, the round he used peaks at 470,000 PSI. The gun gave up well before that though.

470 is a lot. Well above safe limits.
Such a shit is not doable with most calibers if you use correct powders. Well. Sad thing about good guns

 

[67ray]

470 is a lot. Well above safe limits.
Such a shit is not doable with most calibers if you use correct powders. Well. Sad thing about good guns

Ya the 470 is bullshit. How would he even know? It is off the charts and he sure can't measure it.
But hey it's YouTube and he will get the clicks

 

[Ultrarunner]

Ya the 470 is bullshit. How would he even know? It is off the charts and he sure can't measure it.
But hey it's YouTube and he will get the clicks

Agreed, not even possible. Even 200 is beyond reasonable to create.

 

[APFSDS]

This squib was with IIRC 147 grain Winchester. Zero problems with the ~1000 rounds of new republic I have put through that same rifle. Glad I realized something was wrong and didn’t fire again.

 

[Agnotology]

Ya the 470 is bullshit. How would he even know? It is off the charts and he sure can't measure it.
But hey it's YouTube and he will get the clicks

You can calculate the max theoretical pressure based on case dimensions and how much powder is loaded in there. Or in his case, probably high explosive.

 

[v37v]

If not staged hope the shooter packed extra undies in his range bag.

 

[dhuze]

@DW357 , you have some competition!

You say that like maybe it wasn't him.

 

[WanMan99]

Probably should back off on the charge. Looks to be signs of over pressure.....

 

[APFSDS]

You can calculate the max theoretical pressure based on case dimensions and how much powder is loaded in there. Or in his case, probably high explosive.

470 is probably the calculated theoretical maximum. It most likely ruptured at half that or maybe a bit more.

 

[Fixxah]

What a dumb-ass.

That might have almost been a useful video if he'd been up front about the barrel obstruction. Was that a bullet rammed into the barrel, simulating a squib? Did he pour lead in there, or is it crammed with dirt? Was the ammo factory ammo, or did he handload it with way too much of way too fast a powder?

It sure looks like the same gun, the vice marks on the grips look the same.

Cartridge was loaded to nuclear specs way above max pressure. He said it in the video.

 

[paul73]

Cartridge was loaded to nuclear specs way above max pressure. He said it in the video.

Usually in most calibers if you load cartridge up to the rim with correct powders you still not supposed to blow up the barrel.
Pistol powders of course differ from rifles and can do more damage if mixed up by mistake.

 

[Broc Tuah]

Whats cool about this, is based on @Broc Tuah MRI BFR explosion, they at least design the guns to blow up this way, that could have been 100x worse.

That is what they told me when I called them.

Could have been BS on fheir end, but looks like maybe it wasn't.

 

[straightshooterjake]

That is what they told me when I called them.

Could have been BS on fheir end, but looks like maybe it wasn't.

I will make a few comments on this.

Yes, firearms really are designed as best possible to protect the user, even in cases of extreme and catastrophic failure.

People often think that engineers figure out how to make things work. But engineering also includes a lot of thought about "if things fail, how will they fail?" In lots of cases where something bad happens, and people walk away thinking "that sucks, but it could have gone a lot worse," the outcome was not just luck, it was planned by an engineer.

With firearms, there are a few specific things to be aware of regarding safety design. Bolt action rifles evolved into modern designs in the 1890's after the development of smokeless powder. These modern designs include safety features to direct force away from the shooter in case of failure. It should be obvious that firearms from the 1890's and earlier require extra awareness about safety margins, but it deserves extra mention that they may not protect the shooter as well as modern designs.

And what to me is the most important aspect for last. Bolt action rifles, in particular, are designed to protect a right handed shooter in case of failure. As a lefty, I never forget this fact, and every left handed shooter should be aware of it. A rifle designed to protect a right handed shooter does not offer the same protection to a lefty. This is particularly true for bolt actions, but it also applies to any long gun that has an ejection port on the right. As a lefty, I don't spend time worrying about this issue, but I am thoughtful about my choices of firearms and ammunition.

 

[Broc Tuah]

I will make a few comments on this.

Yes, firearms really are designed as best possible to protect the user, even in cases of extreme and catastrophic failure.

People often think that engineers figure out how to make things work. But engineering also includes a lot of thought about "if things fail, how will they fail?" In lots of cases where something bad happens, and people walk away thinking "that sucks, but it could have gone a lot worse," the outcome was not just luck, it was planned by an engineer.

With firearms, there are a few specific things to be aware of regarding safety design. Bolt action rifles evolved into modern designs in the 1890's after the development of smokeless powder. These modern designs include safety features to direct force away from the shooter in case of failure. It should be obvious that firearms from the 1890's and earlier require extra awareness about safety margins, but it deserves extra mention that they may not protect the shooter as well as modern designs.

And what to me is the most important aspect for last. Bolt action rifles, in particular, are designed to protect a right handed shooter in case of failure. As a lefty, I never forget this fact, and every left handed shooter should be aware of it. A rifle designed to protect a right handed shooter does not offer the same protection to a lefty. This is particularly true for bolt actions, but it also applies to any long gun that has an ejection port on the right. As a lefty, I don't spend time worrying about this issue, but I am thoughtful about my choices of firearms and ammunition.

I understand, but to design a barrel that will split a certain way, I wonder how hard that is to do and how it is done. How is a barrel manufactured in such a way that it is weaker at certain points. I can see a slide being manufactured this way because of its shape and different thickness all over.

I just think it is pretty cool.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Usually in most calibers if you load cartridge up to the rim with correct powders you still not supposed to blow up the barrel.
Pistol powders of course differ from rifles and can do more damage if mixed up by mistake.

Clays in Fotay is famous for this.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

I understand, but to design a barrel that will split a certain way, I wonder how hard that is to do and how it is done

Manganese sulfide stringers will do it, but I don't believe that is intentionally done. I saw the reference on a lab report from a logitudionally split 45 barrel in a 1911.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

on the right. As a lefty, I don't spend time worrying about this issue, but I am thoughtful about my choices of firearms and ammunition.

Do you have a Falcon portsider and Walther P5 in your armory

 

[Road_Clam]

So the moral of this story is "If you feel a pop, just STOP ! "

 

[paul73]

So the moral of this story is "If you feel a pop, just STOP ! "

People set on double tapping with ear popping loads sometimes lose ability to react to what happens.

 

[Agnotology]

470 is probably the calculated theoretical maximum. It most likely ruptured at half that or maybe a bit more.

Half might be a stretch too. SAAMI spec is 36,000 PSI for 50 AE. Half would have been 6.5x more than that.

I think Kentucky would make more interesting and better format videos if he slowly increased the pressure till the gun failed, but they probably wouldn't fail as spectacularly.

 

[wcorey]

I understand, but to design a barrel that will split a certain way, I wonder how hard that is to do and how it is done. How is a barrel manufactured in such a way that it is weaker at certain points. I can see a slide being manufactured this way because of its shape and different thickness all over.

I just think it is pretty cool.

Could be as simple as using extruded bar stock for the barrel, would tend to split along the grain structure, down the length rather than across it.