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+101 to that.I feel very bad for this guy.. would not want to be put in that situation.
This is true, however the BG was 30 yards away, (3 seconds), Mr. Fish is old and probably not very strong.
The defendant in the Westfall dam case paid a $50 civil fine for posession of the gun on federal property after shooting a dog in self defense, however, one must consider that he retained the services of a high powered attorney.Needless to say, we un-assed the area ASAP. I wasn't armed that day, and later on I re-read the Army Corps of Engineers rules on the area, which prohibit firearms. Well, guess what, now I carry whenever I am in an exposed area like that, f*** the rules.
The defendant in the Westfall dam case paid a $50 civil fine for posession of the gun on federal property after shooting a dog in self defense, however, one must consider that he retained the services of a high powered attorney.
I expect this would largely depend on how much money the defendant has to pay for a legal team, expert wittnesses and private investigators to assist in preparing the case.Is Scrivner around? Scriv, how would this have played out here in MA? Any comments?
. I was almost expecting someone to suggest to shoot him in the leg or something.
You guys need to get grounded in reality.
NJ prohibits Hollowpoints?![]()
This is true, however the BG was 30 yards away, (3 seconds), Mr. Fish is old and probably not very strong. In his mind a charging lunatic could only be stopped by a sidearm. Pepper spray in this case probably would have just made the attacker more angry.
Remember this all happened pretty quickly. It wasn't like he was condition orange or red and walking through south central. He was on a relaxing walk in the woods not even in condition white then all hell broke loose.
...I hear noise coming up behind me, just something hauling ass up the trail making a lot of running type noises.
I'm like...what the hell...?? Well two dogs come bounding around the corner and basically run right up to me, with one standing up and jumping all around me. ...
I was somewhat off balance for a moment though and wondering if I was going to get bitten. ...
I am not prone to panic but I was unnerved that these dogs came on me so fast, out in the middle of nowhere.
... She really had NO control over them at all.
...But it IS scary when you have dogs coming straight at you with no attempt to stop or slow down. You have no idea if they are coming in for a bite or to be friendly.
Message to dog owners: Keep them under control (on leashes) or leave them home!
I'm not familiar with the intricacies of AZ law, but I would think that the continum of force that LEOs are constrained by does not apply to civilians. If Mr. Fish felt that his life was in danger and escape was not an option, then I'd think he would be justified in using deadly force.
Too bad for the other guy.
Gary
That's what it all comes down to, lots of cash and a good lawyer.
There wre reports that some of the jurors found him guilty on the fact he was carrying hp ie he wanted to cause pain and suffering.
What the f*** are you supposed to carry, nice bullets? We're talking about guns here. I use HP's all the time and won't stop using them.
I stand correctedSlight correction. It wasn't the Geneca Convention but the Hague Convention. I don't believe the United states ever signed it.
Laws of War :
Declaration on the Use of Bullets Which Expand or Flatten Easily in the Human Body; July 29, 1899
Declare as follows:
The Contracting Parties agree to abstain from the use of bullets which expand or flatten easily in the human body, such as bullets with a hard envelope which does not entirely cover the core, or is pierced with incisions.