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Not good enough. I feel like throat punching someone every time I see that stupid term posted. Anyone who uses it in a FS ad title should be exiled.It's honestly not worth the effort to keep making posts about this either though. Don't like their ads? Don't buy.
I laughed so hard when I read this I almost joined the pant shitters.They're too busy arm flapping, pant shitting, and hyperventilating while they wait with baited breath for facebook legal experts to validate , in breathless terms, their pant shitting about something that has never and will never happen.
I laughed so hard when I read this I almost joined the pant shitters.
Dont know you, not judging you but this kind of attitude is why our country is going in the toilet. Just do as you're told, dont challenge them because you may loose all the cool stuff you have. I guess if you don't care about the future of our rights that's ok. They take one straw at a time and we take it!And note that as the Chief Prosecutor she can f*** up your life just by forcing you to defend a lawsuit against an opponent that has literally unlimited funds. Think about her edict as a warning shot, not as legislation.
Anyone who has been to Court knows even if you win, you lose. Lose lots of money, your image, your time and mindshare. Do what you want but don't think you will prevail.
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Not this sh*t again.
Seems like we have one of these threads every month.
Great point.That might be OK.
The more people read that the Healey edict is pure fabricated nonsense, the sooner her nonsense becomes irrelevant.
Maybe we need a megathread linking to all of these PSAs, then. It can be made a sticky. And still nobody will read and internalize it.Great point.
And many of us can accept extra responsibility here. How many of us are instructors (or otherwise help new shooters get started) but don't explain this in depth to them? How many of us are telling said newbies how to get whatever they want, and from where? If we're not doing this, how can we blame those n00bs for not understanding?Healey's edict (and by extension the concept of "pre-Healey") will continue to matter for as long as dealers are unwilling to openly sell complete, newly manufactured, feature-compliant ARs or AKs for typical market prices. Of course any dealer that does so puts themselves at risk of being shut down at minimum, and maybe even going to prison. Apparently nobody wants to be the test case, since losing means potential prison time.
Sure, there are ways to get what you want if you're "in the know" and willing to put some work in, but the vast majority of newly-minted LTC holders are just going to go to a store and choose from whatever's available there.
very little segment of people understands all that and even lesser segment wants to actually go through the hoops to deal with workarounds - as of how to get what you want.And many of us can accept extra responsibility here. How many of us are instructors (or otherwise help new shooters get started) but don't explain this in depth to them? How many of us are telling said newbies how to get whatever they want, and from where? If we're not doing this, how can we blame those n00bs for not understanding?
It’s not, I have a bunch of friends in MA that have asked me about it, they all know about it and it’s more real off NES to be honest. At least here you can read about everyone saying it’s bullshit and not to pay any attention to it. I had my Girls Bro in law contact me telling me his buddy will pay 2K for any AR if I knew anyone that was selling one. I sent him up off 495i think this whole thing actually an NES only terminology, it was not so much of it on the armslist, even when it was not full of scams... at least i have never seen it as much as i see it here in WTS sections.
pre-healy, now pre-biden. meh.
Sure. But going to the Mill is one of the work arounds. If everyone started by telling new shooters to go there, instead of the Deli Ticket Emporium, we'd be on our way.very little segment of people understands all that and even lesser segment wants to actually go through the hoops to deal with workarounds - as of how to get what you want.
sometimes it is just easier to go to the mill, pay extra and get whatever you want, if wallet allows.
the fact remains, nevertheless, that the absolute majority of FFLs and shops in MA are terrified enough by the possible hassle from maura`s office for not to piss against the wind.
Healey's edict (and by extension the concept of "pre-Healey") will continue to matter for as long as dealers are unwilling to openly sell complete, newly manufactured, feature-compliant ARs or AKs for typical market prices. Of course any dealer that does so puts themselves at risk of being shut down at minimum, and maybe even going to prison. Apparently nobody wants to be the test case, since losing means potential prison time.
Sure, there are ways to get what you want if you're "in the know" and willing to put some work in, but the vast majority of newly-minted LTC holders are just going to go to a store and choose from whatever's available there.
Sure. But going to the Mill is one of the work arounds. If everyone started by telling new shooters to go there, instead of the Deli Ticket Emporium, we'd be on our way.
I agree that there's a lot of this that's ingrained. But when we teach the classes, we can help soften that. Part of it is "how are we teaching the law?" When I run the class, I make a point of laying out what is real and to point folks at shops that help them avoid the garbage. Sure, they don't always take to it, but it's still a step in the right direction because they're coming to us as instructors for our experience and "expertise."IME this doesnt matter, the pant shitters are usually skeptical of everything and are usually filled with shit because they got trained by some other low
info type. None of the BFS instructors I know personally are like that at all, or anywhere near that, but there are still a ton of cretins dispensing garbage
directly into Joe Newguy pantshitters brain because he has that soft spot in the middle of it somewhere.
Dont know you, not judging you but this kind of attitude is why our country is going in the toilet. Just do as you're told, dont challenge them because you may loose all the cool stuff you have. I guess if you don't care about the future of our rights that's ok. They take one straw at a time and we take it!
Why can't I own a glock in MA?That might be OK.
The more people read that the Healey edict is pure fabricated nonsense, the sooner her nonsense becomes irrelevant.
My bad, sorry. Have a good dayWhat attitude? I never said to "do as you're told". Read it again and get back to me
It's also worth mentioning that there are a handful of borderline unscrupulous dealers in MA that are complicit in creating pant shitters. ... These people ... engage in marketing selling healeyban as fact so they can get buyers to buy their own junk by telling them that everyone else's stuff is illegal. ... telling lies to the consumer is pretty shitty and borderline fraud.
She said she wouldn't prosecute at this time. She further said that she resreves the right to prosecute in the future. If you are going to quote here on NES, quote completely, so that NES members are informed accurately.She's the attorney general. She isn't a legislator. She doesn't get to arbitrarily re-interpret what is classified by Congress and as such, Massachusetts lawmakers, as an "assault weapon". Congress decided which cosmetic "evil features" make an assault weapon (collapsible stock, bayo lug, flash hider) in addition to a pistol grip and detachable magazine. A rifle devoid of such features is by lawmakers' own definition, NOT an "assault weapon" regardless of what a non-legislator says. I'm sick of this pre-Healey shit and anyone that wants to take her office to court over this should she threaten enforcement of her "enforcement notice" should. She would lose, which she knows, which is why she said she wouldn't choose to prosecute anyone over it. This was a low-energy political stunt on her part, plain and simple. Enough of the pre-Healey nonsense. There is no such thing.
Pre Healey is f***ing stupid but you know what the best thing to do is?
Don't ever buy shit from people that use doucheretard terms like "pre healey" its literally that simple. Just refuse to do business with them, and let them pawn their clapped out overpriced junk on the rubes it was intended for.
I realize you're hoping to deprogram pant shitters that suck for pre healey and the like, but that is NEVER going to happen. They're too busy arm flapping, pant shitting, and hyperventilating while they wait with baited breath for facebook legal experts to validate , in breathless terms, their pant shitting about something that has never and will never happen.
Don't want the pre healey dolphin show? don't go to the dolphin show...
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Uh Patrick.I just got this F Healy set this am from a nice dealer at the mill. Happy Father’s Day to me. No “pre ban” bullshit View attachment 494098