MisterHappy
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times have changed when they go to the range with you, with their guns.
Till then, it's just [crazy] talk.
Till then, it's just [crazy] talk.
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Well, I do think many people are coming around, like I said before, but there are different levels and types of coming around. Events like Katrina, wildfires, and other natural disasters have woken people up a bit to the idea that something could happen, leaving them stranded or forcing them to flee. And you have multiple gov't agencies (CDC, DHS, FEMA) recommending that people keep emergencies supplies on hand. So a lot more people are doing that, as it isn't considered as fringe as it used to be. From what I've seen, there is a fairly broad spectrum of 'mainstream' prepping.
Like MisterHappy says, though, the next, bigger step, would be people taking responsibility for defending themselves, which for a lot of city-folk probably involves a conscious realization that many people prefer to avoid because of the obvious implications.
Very well said sir. This was a good read this morning. I'll rep you later. +1
I think people are starting to believe the gov is collapsing. My parents don't believe it and think I'm crazy that I plan ahead just in case SHTF. You can't win with some people, it's just as simple as that. I've tried 10000 times. [sad2]
I think prepping is actually the easy part. It's my location that will be a big problem if the world goes to hell. I live in a small town house community that has 11 units in two buildings. The second building, which I live in, is on the end of the driveway with woods on three sides. I've come to realize in my planning that my wife and I will either need to displace to somewhere else if things go to hell or hunker down where we are. Each has it's own drawbacks.
If we decide to move, the only good place would be close family that isn't that close. If we could move that would be a better choice. The most likely situation though will be that we'll be stuck where we are. If something goes bad quick, moving will just make us targets on the road with everyone else trying to flee to who knows where.
This leaves hunkering down, which I've quickly come to realize that it will be up to me to defend and most likely help feed my neighbors. This leaves me in a big hole when it comes to food. There are benefits though. Strength in numbers is one. Arming them will not be a problem and I've even given some thought as to how to defend the building. Still leaves me with the problem of how we survive food wise long term. There's easy access to water as a river runs next to the complex. Fishing could be one source. There's a lot of land for hunting, but I'm betting that game will become scarce pretty quick. There's also a large field next to us that could be used for farming and one of the residence ran a 100 acre farm in her former life. Problem being we'd never get any crops out before the starving masses over ran them.
I guess I keep doing what I'm doing and stockpile as I go. It doesn't help that I watched "The Road" last weekend for the first time. I'm thinking that what that movie showed will come to pass when people start starving. I can't imagine that I'd eat fellow human beings, but then again, I've never been starving......
The real problem is getting them to work for their keep. For real.
Also, who put you in charge? (Because someone is sure to ask.....) These are things that you need to think about, if you're forming a communty....
I always say the same thing.When the shit hits the fan I am coming to your house
Is NH going to be overrun with Mexicans when the SHTF?
(don't forget that the water in the reservoir of your toilet is drinkable, assuming you clean it on occasion.
derek said:Is NH going to be overrun with Mexicans when the SHTF?
Burdens
Still here huh?
or until people start communicating again and don't want to eat one another, whichever comes first.
I think once people start eating each other, there's no coming back from that.......
Friends until the food runs out. I've got a tight ship, unfortunately we are in new england, and winter gets long. It's pretty limited to people of the same mindset, leaving the others to fend for themselves. More mouthes to feed = less chance of overall survival. I might pass off a handgun to a neighbor I really like, give them some farewell advice, but I'm not going to hold their hand through it. I've got my own to worry about, and the people I've actually developed a plan with. Above the set "party", that would be 1 too many to improvise a new strategy. Party is small, but smart, armed to the teeth, fast, and fairly well supplied so far. I'm humbly guessing at least 50% of the north east will starve off in the first 6 months. If that 6th month is march, we're in luck being that is the start of growing season. Once the masses start dropping in large numbers, less mouthes to feed, food becomes less scarce. Some people will probably start communicating again. At this point, having friends won't be such a bad thing. For the first 6 - 10 months, I'm avoiding everyone aside from the immediate group, or until people start communicating again and don't want to eat one another, whichever comes first.