Guilty or Not Guilty? What say you?

[AmeriKHAN]

Guilty. Not to mention that if I saw two armed people walking up on a random car at a gas station, I would assume they were carjackers themselves.

 

[drgrant]

The life of a criminal is worth nothing.

Too bad we have so many gay and retarded laws in this country. American strength and manliness disappearing faster than a snowball in hell.

The laws on this bullshit are gay but she should have just called the cops.

 

[rogersmithiii]

St Louis is not in MA but that certainly is not exercising your duty to retreat.

But in any state if you track somebody down and it turns into a gun fight I think you are screwed.

As soon as she spotted her stolen vehicle she should of just called the cops and let them deal with it.

The cops probably would never have shown up.

The reality is that her car was part of Democrat wealth redistribution. She should have just accepted it, and bought another car.

I'm convinced that since Democrats lost on the gun control thing with Bruen, they are now making self defense illegal. And since Democrats are flooding middle class areas with criminal underclasses, releasing criminals from prison, and not prosecuting them, it's even more likely that you will be preyed upon.

 

[HARRYM]

St Louis is The Gangs of New York. The "law" is whatever it takes to make it through another day. Your average American has no clue how violent some cities are in America.

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

Guilty. Had this incident happened while the carjacking was underway, I would say not guilty. But she went looking. At that point, it’s not self defense. What’s worse is that an innocent person got hurt. The woman screwed up and will have to pay the price.

 

[gerrycaruso]

Disgusting. The problem was started by the scumbags who stole the truck.

 

[Dadstoys]

She f***ed around and found out..As much as I would like to track down and make someone pay for taking my property, this isn't the wild wild west anymore and frowned upon by the courts.

It is the wild west we're just not supposed to shoot back at the bad guys.
Actually worst than the wild west, they put your ass away or hung you back then not turn you back out on the street with a pat on the head

 

[LakeTrout]

I say she’s guilty

 

[ISOTOX]

Stupid Hurts!

 

[ThePreBanMan]

Guilty...

 

[Coda]

The cops probably would never have shown up.

I believe that if you report a carjacking and you have located the carjackers that the cops are going to show up. To diffuse the violence that will most likely result if nothing else.

Even if the cops didn't respond (highly unlikely) calling them is still a much better decision than pulling out a gun a deciding you are going to handle the carjackers yourself.

 

[ridleyman]

Technically guilty. I would give her a 1 day sentence, suspended for ridding the earth of 2 dangerous scumbags.

 

[Junior314]

Technically guilty. I would give her a 1 day sentence, suspended for ridding the earth of 2 dangerous scumbags.

What about the innocent bystanders that were shot?

 

[whatluck]

What about the innocent bystanders that were shot?

Someone on 4chan wrote up a whole thing about how the bystander got shot because he thought about drawing his P320 and it discharged in the holster.

 

[SS1]

These guy's will leave for greener pastures ..
Where they will only need 1 bullet

St. Louis PD considering move to 11-hour shifts to help with staff shortage

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[fencer]

The laws on this bullshit are gay but she should have just called the cops.

She should have taken out two of the tires, so they couldn't just drive away...then called the cops.

 

[AmeriKHAN]

The life of a criminal is worth nothing.

Too bad we have so many gay and retarded laws in this country. American strength and manliness disappearing faster than a snowball in hell.

Pretty sure this would still be illegal in 1789 unless they were trying to steal horses on your property or the frontier.

 

[MisterHappy]

Used to hang horse thieves

It's not used-to time, anymore.

A horse was survival equipment, a car is not.

The world has changed.

 

[MisterHappy]

The life of a criminal is worth nothing.

Too bad we have so many gay and retarded laws in this country. American strength and manliness disappearing faster than a snowball in hell.

So, do you think that the judicial amputation of a thief's hand is an acceptable punishment?

If not, is it because it's "Barbaric", or not severe enough (as you seem to imply that theft should be a capital crime)?

 

[Rockrivr1]

So, do you think that the judicial amputation of a thief's hand is an acceptable punishment?

If not, is it because it's "Barbaric", or not severe enough (as you seem to imply that theft should be a capital crime)?

I think that petty crime would go down significantly if Caning was still a thing.

 

[pewpewpew]

So, do you think that the judicial amputation of a thief's hand is an acceptable punishment?

Is all theft the same? In certain situations, sure. Perhaps it would do more to dissuade crime.

as you seem to imply that theft should be a capital crime

Your words, not mine.

I think that if a criminal commits a crime that leads to the loss of said criminal's life, that's on them. Had they not committed the crime, they would still be alive.

 

[Rockrivr1]

I think that if a criminal commits a crime that leads to the loss of said criminal's life, that's on them. Had they not committed the crime, they would still be alive.

Similar to the law with Murder. If you’re doing a crime and in that crime someone dies, your guilty of murder. Even if you weren’t the one who directly did the killing. It happened because of your crime. So guilty by association

 

[jaypap]

Sure she was wrong, but you have to admit she did the world a favor.

 

[MisterHappy]

Is all theft the same? In certain situations, sure. Perhaps it would do more to dissuade crime.

Your words, not mine.

I think that if a criminal commits a crime that leads to the loss of said criminal's life, that's on them. Had they not committed the crime, they would still be alive.

Actually, you said:

The life of a criminal is worth nothing.

To me, at least, that's a very, very broad brush.

The issue with a capital sentence for theft, is that if it's not all theft, then you have to draw the line somewhere, and that's arbitrary.

 

[rogersmithiii]

The cost associated with a stolen car is nothing compared to the costs associated with shooting someone. That’s why God made auto insurance.

 

[Horrible]

Sure she was wrong, but you have to admit she did the world a favor.

Agree that, based on the law, the correct verdict was handed down. But maybe, just maybe, thugs would think twice before stealing a car if they knew that they might get tracked down and off'd

 

[Picton]

Sure she was wrong, but you have to admit she did the world a favor.

I doubt the bystander who got caught in the crossfire quite agrees with your statement...

 

[MickeyD’s]

It's not used-to time, anymore.

A horse was survival equipment, a car is not.

The world has changed.

What replaced horses…vehicles

World hasn’t changed , still the same rules as always. Only people have changed …

 

[Coda]

She should have taken out two of the tires, so they couldn't just drive away...then called the cops.

I like the idea and that might be a feel good moment.

But.......... Not sure about Missouri, but in MA that would definitely cost you your LTC.

 

[pewpewpew]

Actually, you said:

The life of a criminal is worth nothing.

To me, at least, that's a very, very broad brush.

The issue with a capital sentence for theft, is that if it's not all theft, then you have to draw the line somewhere, and that's arbitrary.

I'm struggling to understand the argument you're making here. You think I am saying something worth nothing must be destroyed on principle. I am saying that the destruction of something worth nothing requires no recompense.

There is a causal relationship between the criminal act and the criminals' death in this case. If they were hanging out at the park and murdered by a random, I would say differently.

To your second point: All law other than "an eye for an eye" is arbitrary.