Gun Parlor does it again…

[AJK129]

Cases should have tamper sensors. Alarm goes off and doors lock. Simply having tamper sensors visible on all the cases and 1000000 cameras will deter most criminals. And every single employee at a gun shop is security. You pay them enough so they never rob you and actively protect you.

I don't see how you could have a gunshop with a hallway and NOT convert it into a man trap. That's like you either never bought or designed a security plan or more likely ignored it.

And are you 100% sure that gun is empty? Your situation involves you not noticing standing near breaking glass in a room where you're supposed to be responsible for every single item. For all you know the gun was loaded before it left the store.

"Treat every gun as if its loaded, unless it was stolen"

 

[Mark from ?]

Cases should have tamper sensors. Alarm goes off and doors lock. Simply having tamper sensors visible on all the cases and 1000000 cameras will deter most criminals. And every single employee at a gun shop is security. You pay them enough so they never rob you and actively protect you.

I don't see how you could have a gunshop with a hallway and NOT convert it into a man trap. That's like you either never bought or designed a security plan or more likely ignored it.

And are you 100% sure that gun is empty? Your situation involves you not noticing standing near breaking glass in a room where you're supposed to be responsible for every single item. For all you know the gun was loaded before it left the store.

I don't agree with employees being their security.....and likely they pay them ass, especially now with sales at a low point.

The way the place is designed, your exactly correct, two heavy glass doors, both should have locked when case was breached. Not sure why....

Im sure after this.....Worcester will be up their ass, and could shut them down, knowing MASS.

 

[whatluck]

"Treat every gun as if its loaded, unless it was stolen"

It's only been a few years but the idea of being prosecuted for shooting someone in the act of stealing a gun from you is completely foreign to me now. Like the version of me who thought like that has been dead a long time.

 

[Mark from ?]

Lol no wonder why criminals are so brave, the public is so weak.

Everyone in MA fears the state except the criminals.

Well......MA government is weak on crime and criminals.......and hard on people that defend themselves or their things with a gun.

Yes...law abiding people fear when the law is used against them....

Do you expect any different?

 

[Mark from ?]

It's only been a few years but the idea of being prosecuted for shooting someone in the act of stealing a gun from you is completely foreign to me now. Like the version of me who thought like that has been dead a long time.

Ive been in FL for 6 months and it took like 3 days to understand that.....and honestly I always felt that way, even when in state. Acting on something like that up there....nope...not that stupid.

Owners at my local gun shop in FL..... ventilating someone for stealing a gun I would assume would be normal practice, and likely the sheriff would come in and shake their hand.

Of course, they are all also employed by the sheriff's department...but realistically if an armed citizen happened to shoot the perp, Id expect no flak either.

MA thinking is cancer, and not common sense. There is plenty of common sense in the US......

 

[AJK129]

It's only been a few years but the idea of being prosecuted for shooting someone in the act of stealing a gun from you is completely foreign to me now. Like the version of me who thought like that has been dead a long time.

"Un massifying" my brain was easier than expected, but I still catch myself sometimes

 

[whatluck]

I don't agree with employees being their security.....and likely they pay them ass, especially now with sales at a low point.

The way the place is designed, your exactly correct, two heavy glass doors, both should have locked when case was breached. Not sure why....

Im sure after this.....Worcester will be up their ass, and could shut them down, knowing MASS.

One of the shops I worked for payed the sales people very average for a cashier job, but had a security room and hallway with multiple entrances into the store and outside with at least 1 extremely well armed guard but usually more on busy days. Employees were trained to never intervene and communicate instead.

Another shop has a ton of cases and employees, and they're all paid very well. High base pay plus a commission on most items. All employees given a stipend for training and free ammo, group training, visiting security professionals. The owner acts like the employees are his family. I tried for YEARS to get a weekend job at this shop but there was never a spot for me. This shop (which is in MA btw) 100% they will shoot you, and they were only ever robbed once that I know of, outside business hours.

 

[whatluck]

Well......MA government is weak on crime and criminals.......and hard on people that defend themselves or their things with a gun.

Yes...law abiding people fear when the law is used against them....

Do you expect any different?

Yes. I expect that you have a good enough security plan and your employees all look like off duty cops, mma fighters, and break dancers, and they can all shoot a handgun like a bored carpenter hammering a nail.

Honestly it's probably a poor decision to shop at a gun store with poor security in a place like Worcester.

 

[Mark from ?]

Honestly it's probably a poor decision to shop at a gun store with poor security in a place like the Gun Parlor.

FIFY

 

[Mark from ?]

One of the shops I worked for payed the sales people very average for a cashier job, but had a security room and hallway with multiple entrances into the store and outside with at least 1 extremely well armed guard but usually more on busy days. Employees were trained to never intervene and communicate instead.

Another shop has a ton of cases and employees, and they're all paid very well. High base pay plus a commission on most items. All employees given a stipend for training and free ammo, group training, visiting security professionals. The owner acts like the employees are his family. I tried for YEARS to get a weekend job at this shop but there was never a spot for me. This shop (which is in MA btw) 100% they will shoot you, and they were only ever robbed once that I know of, outside business hours.

It really all depends on volume and size of shop. To keep shops open and running some owners have to do what they can do and its tough to blame them for it.
My shop in MA was small, one gun case. Two doors, easily defended. But for a while, had a girl that worked there that didn't carry, and for sure could have been knocked out by most people walking thru the door. To keep the doors open, he had to use her as an employee.

 

[alx]

The store owners valued the stolen hi point 10mm at $3600. But their lost innocence can never be assessed.

At that valuation I assume the perp stole a whole case of them - prolly 10- right? lolz...

 

[rogersmithiii]

I’ve seen his pic. My first thought was ‘didn’t he sing for the counting crows??’

Where?

 

[Broc Tuah]

Honestly it's probably a poor decision to shop at a gun store with poor security in a place like WoWorcester.

This is why I do a security assessment of every gun store before I give them my business. (Sarc)

I have concluded the safest place for business is @Reptile basement. No hooker has ever left that basement alive.

 

[chris_1001]

I have concluded the safest place for business is @Reptile basement. No hooker has ever left that basement alive.

Pass, fool me once...

 

[skiro98]

Where?

A LEO friend sent it. Didnt want to share it in case he didn’t have permission to send it to me.

 

[CMEBoston]

So your argument is mass is a good state to steal from because nobody will do shit?

I mean, this is true….

 

[CMEBoston]

Cases should have tamper sensors. Alarm goes off and doors lock. Simply having tamper sensors visible on all the cases and 1000000 cameras will deter most criminals. And every single employee at a gun shop is security. You pay them enough so they never rob you and actively protect you.

I don't see how you could have a gunshop with a hallway and NOT convert it into a man trap. That's like you either never bought or designed a security plan or more likely ignored it.

And are you 100% sure that gun is empty? Your situation involves you not noticing standing near breaking glass in a room where you're supposed to be responsible for every single item. For all you know the gun was loaded before it left the store.

To be fair it’s the same gun shop that spilled the beans and arguably caused the Healy decree

I’m not sure common sense is high on the attributes list

 

[Mark from ?]

Well......MA government is weak on crime and criminals.......and hard on people that defend themselves or their things with a gun.

Yes...law abiding people fear when the law is used against them....

Do you expect any different?

I will say......maybe they still feel that way for shooting someone with a gun in defense......

But most of my friends still in MA that were do it by the book type people, the more egregious the laws get.....the less they accept any laws anymore.

Some of them are older don't have shit to lose and said....... Im passed the point of giving a fxck about any laws they make anymore. Half of them do not even know the laws.

I have a retired chief friend who the whole time he was chief in that town, his stance was no matter what the law, you have a class A you can have a standard cap mag, and he would never charge or stop anyone carrying that pre ban, post ban whatever. I tried to explain the pre post ban thing to him and he's like.....how the fxck do you tell....Im not getting into that bullshit to bother people who I gave them an LTC. They can carry whatever the F they want as long as they don't commit a crime with it they are A OK with me.

Storage laws? As long as you didn't have a kid in the house.....didn't matter. Keep a gun in your truck all year long in the console if you want.

Most of those old common sense guys are gone now though, replaced by weenies politician a**h***s, and many of them Dems.