I just can't buy a Glock.

Coyote33 said:
So, if you're for pure utility, then the Hi-Point must be in your collection, right? It is known for its ruggedness and reliability. Why would anyone NOT want one?
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Because it is direct blowback. It doesn’t have a locked breech. I haven’t shot one but I would expect it to have more felt recoil than a locked breech gun like a Glock.
 
Coyote33 said:
So, if you're for pure utility, then the Hi-Point must be in your collection, right? It is known for its ruggedness and reliability. Why would anyone NOT want one?
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Weighs too much / makes even a p95 and sig p series school buses look slim by comparison
Direct blowback
Slide made out of pot metal
Single stack magazines in a gun that size = aids
Taurus G3 absolutely destroys it for the price of a couple of boxes of ammo more....

I don't think I need to continue LOL
 
rogersmithiii said:
I admit it.

Glocks are great guns. They're reliable. They shoot any sort of ammunition without the need for throating or modification. They are easy to work on. They shoot really nicely. They stand up to dirt, mud, wet, and corrosion. They are close to perfect weapons for the modern age.

I just can't bring myself to buy one.

They are.......butt ugly.

They have no aesthetically pleasing attributes. Gaston designed them solely for function.

I get that guns need to be designed for practical, functional purposes. They need to go "bang" when you pull the trigger, and they need to place bullets where they are aimed.
But to me, guns are also pieces of art. I get seriously aroused when I see a gorgeous Weatherby Athena shotgun with amazing wood, and tastefully engraved receiver. I love Remington's artistically designed front sights. Colt's decision to replace that biscuit sight on the Detective special with a ramped front replacement was genius.

That's why I will never own a Glock pistol. Life is too short to shoot ugly guns.
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Eh , some 40 year old design with no soul.
 
Coyote33 said:
So, if you're for pure utility, then the Hi-Point must be in your collection, right? It is known for its ruggedness and reliability. Why would anyone NOT want one?
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And they have a great warranty and yes they do support them.
My friend buys hi points for that alone. Shoots the living crap out of all of them and sends them in when they fail. Which is many many many rounds shot.
 
drgrant said:
Not really, unless we're going to define a Continuous intolerance of shit that doesnt work as a culture. [laugh] And glock is basically one of several brands of "gun medicine" you can buy. that medicine includes such desirable side effects as 'actually working" and "having a absolutely HUGE ecosystem of parts and expertise to dip into".


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Companies like CZ, Sig and others make other gun medicines as well...

This isn't like "Jeeps" or people putting ducks on the window, or jeep waves. Or Harley Davidson or anything like that.

Yeah there are some fags on some forums that are like "GWOCK IS THE BEAEST!!! MLARC MLARC!! QUAC QUACK!!!" the rest of us just
use/carry them relatively unknown... [laugh]
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Hey ! Go easy on us jeep guys that ride Harley’s [cheers]
 
rogersmithiii said:
I admit it.

Glocks are great guns. They're reliable. They shoot any sort of ammunition without the need for throating or modification. They are easy to work on. They shoot really nicely. They stand up to dirt, mud, wet, and corrosion. They are close to perfect weapons for the modern age.

I just can't bring myself to buy one.

They are.......butt ugly.

They have no aesthetically pleasing attributes. Gaston designed them solely for function.

I get that guns need to be designed for practical, functional purposes. They need to go "bang" when you pull the trigger, and they need to place bullets where they are aimed.
But to me, guns are also pieces of art. I get seriously aroused when I see a gorgeous Weatherby Athena shotgun with amazing wood, and tastefully engraved receiver. I love Remington's artistically designed front sights. Colt's decision to replace that biscuit sight on the Detective special with a ramped front replacement was genius.

That's why I will never own a Glock pistol. Life is too short to shoot ugly guns.
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Do looks really matter? Half the guys here wear Crocs. Some even drive a Ridgeline.
 
Picton said:
I'm not a fan either. I owned one for 12 years, so I know whereof I speak.

There are many things worse than Glocks, though. Like useless threads virtue-signaling about how you're never going to buy a Glock.
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It stimulated a discussion, and some worthwhile comments. I typically ignore the stupid ones and concentrate on the decent ones.
 
Waher said:
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Consumers used to demand that everything be as beautiful as possible. Artifice was a virtue of commercialism. Then that fell to the wayside during WW2 and the world has been painfully ugly because 'cheap' ever since.
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Nice pictures. I visited the Mahar truck museum in NJ, and saw the painstaking restoration efforts that they put into their collection. It's awesome when people channel their passions into crazy stuff. Makes life worth living.
 
rogersmithiii said:
I admit it.

I just can't bring myself to buy one.
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I totally agree that I can’t buy just one. I’ve had this problem for a while now. The solution is to buy lots of them. They look much better in groups, especially if you collect the whole set, which you could easily do with the money you wasted on that fancy Perazzi shotgun…

If Glock made a Trap gun I would have bought it instead of the Browning 725 I ended up with. And then I wouldn’t have cared that I chipped a chunk off the comb the very first time I took it out and put it in the rack at a gun club. And I also wouldn’t have cared when I turned around with it in my basement and smacked the barrels into the wall because I never really handled a gun this long before. But alas, I got the Browning and ended up getting very pissed both times.
 
I am a well know Glock hater too. I've tried to like them, I want to like them, but I just can't get past the grip angle and that stupid trigger.
I know, I know... you can get good triggers. And I know... you can practice and get used to the grip angle, and some models are not as severe, but I don't want to.
I also think that people have this mythical belief that Glocks never fail, but that is not true. And people say Sigs go bang when you don't want them to, but Glock has been sued many more times for those issues than Sig has.
When Glocks first became popular in the 1980's they were clearly a better choice than many guns on the market. Hell, cops were still carrying wheel guns. But as technology has advanced, design and manufacturing capabilities have improved greatly. Other gun makes became much more reliable, but the Legend of Glock had taken hold by then. And we know that in the gun world, once a gun becomes an icon, people will find reasons to not change. We saw this when AR's became popular. No one wanted a plastic rifle ( myself included)
Someday, I will probably end up with a Glock, even though they are ugly.
 
Cuz said:
And then I wouldn’t have cared that I chipped a chunk off the comb the very first time I took it out and put it in the rack at a gun club.
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I'm trying to imagine how that happened and I'm coming up blank.
 
Maybe he's talking about how the gen4/5? grip is ugly. Find yourself a new old stock finger groove Glock (gen3?) and be content.
 
Cuz said:
I totally agree that I can’t buy just one. I’ve had this problem for a while now. The solution is to buy lots of them. They look much better in groups, especially if you collect the whole set, which you could easily do with the money you wasted on that fancy Perazzi shotgun…

If Glock made a Trap gun I would have bought it instead of the Browning 725 I ended up with. And then I wouldn’t have cared that I chipped a chunk off the comb the very first time I took it out and put it in the rack at a gun club. And I also wouldn’t have cared when I turned around with it in my basement and smacked the barrels into the wall because I never really handled a gun this long before. But alas, I got the Browning and ended up getting very pissed both times.
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Guns aren't designed to be safe queens. They're designed to be enjoyed and shot. They're going to get scratched, dinged up, and chipped.
It's ok.

I think too many of us (including me) were brought up by depression era family members, who covered the furniture in sticky plastic, only used the china for holidays, and kept the silver for guests.
 
Picton said:
I'm trying to imagine how that happened and I'm coming up blank.
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The wood base that you rest your butt stock on has a 2x4 going across the bottom for support. If you are not careful when you place your gun in the rack, The bottom edge of a raised comb catches on the 2x4. I wasn’t paying attention and smacked the comb on the board and chipped it.
Then I noticed that if your not careful you can also smack the mid bead on the barrel support at the top of the rack.
 
fencer said:
I am a well know Glock hater too. I've tried to like them, I want to like them, but I just can't get past the grip angle and that stupid trigger.
I know, I know... you can get good triggers. And I know... you can practice and get used to the grip angle, and some models are not as severe, but I don't want to.
I also think that people have this mythical belief that Glocks never fail, but that is not true. And people say Sigs go bang when you don't want them to, but Glock has been sued many more times for those issues than Sig has.
When Glocks first became popular in the 1980's they were clearly a better choice than many guns on the market. Hell, cops were still carrying wheel guns. But as technology has advanced, design and manufacturing capabilities have improved greatly. Other gun makes became much more reliable, but the Legend of Glock had taken hold by then. And we know that in the gun world, once a gun becomes an icon, people will find reasons to not change. We saw this when AR's became popular. No one wanted a plastic rifle ( myself included)
Someday, I will probably end up with a Glock, even though they are ugly.
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I think everyone understands how Glock became successful: Dirt cheap to make, many more rounds vs. revolver, lighter than metal to carry around and giveaway deals to police departments. Gaston found the secret formula for success! Suddenly, it was the American "cop gun" so every non-cop hot shot in America wanted one too. It also helped that Smith & Wesson stumbled very badly with the Sigma series and could not compete price-wise with real metal vs. Glock's injection molded plastic and stamped tin.

But aside from all that and locally speaking, Massachusetts did Glock a huge favor by loosely (through regs, not law) banning the sale of Glocks to non-cops. Well, Hell, that's all it took. Everyone knows that what you ban is what suddenly becomes what everyone wants... and suddenly, Glock becomes the number one most-desired handgun in MA! It didn't have to be good or the best or even cheap... 'cause it was "Banned in Massachusetts" and that was all that mattered. [laugh]

Has Glock become a cult gun or culture? The Interwebs give that a resounding "yes"... and who am I to dispute the opinions of millions on the Interwebs! [thumbsup]
 
Cuz said:
I totally agree that I can’t buy just one. I’ve had this problem for a while now. The solution is to buy lots of them. They look much better in groups, especially if you collect the whole set, which you could easily do with the money you wasted on that fancy Perazzi shotgun…

If Glock made a Trap gun I would have bought it instead of the Browning 725 I ended up with. And then I wouldn’t have cared that I chipped a chunk off the comb the very first time I took it out and put it in the rack at a gun club. And I also wouldn’t have cared when I turned around with it in my basement and smacked the barrels into the wall because I never really handled a gun this long before. But alas, I got the Browning and ended up getting very pissed both times.
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Eh its a trap gun ment to shoot 10s of Ks of rounds a year
 
fencer said:
I am a well know Glock hater too. I've tried to like them, I want to like them, but I just can't get past the grip angle and that stupid trigger.
I know, I know... you can get good triggers. And I know... you can practice and get used to the grip angle, and some models are not as severe, but I don't want to.
I also think that people have this mythical belief that Glocks never fail, but that is not true. And people say Sigs go bang when you don't want them to, but Glock has been sued many more times for those issues than Sig has.
When Glocks first became popular in the 1980's they were clearly a better choice than many guns on the market. Hell, cops were still carrying wheel guns. But as technology has advanced, design and manufacturing capabilities have improved greatly. Other gun makes became much more reliable, but the Legend of Glock had taken hold by then. And we know that in the gun world, once a gun becomes an icon, people will find reasons to not change. We saw this when AR's became popular. No one wanted a plastic rifle ( myself included)
Someday, I will probably end up with a Glock, even though they are ugly.
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Almost any modern striker fired pistol can be compared to a Glock, many favorably. S&W's XDM is a decent example of a comparitive product. A buddy of mine has one, I shot it and promptly handed it back. Gun's nice, but with gear and mags for a dozen or so Glocks, I wasn't about to start swapping over...
 
Cuz said:
The wood base that you rest your butt stock on has a 2x4 going across the bottom for support. If you are not careful when you place your gun in the rack, The bottom edge of a raised comb catches on the 2x4. I wasn’t paying attention and smacked the comb on the board and chipped it.
Then I noticed that if your not careful you can also smack the mid bead on the barrel support at the top of the rack.
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Ahhhhhhhh. The 2x4 was in the back of the rack. I was thinking you meant the toe of the stock.

Bummer!
 

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