If there wasn't a Mass Compliant list; what would you buy?

first post definitely nailed it.




FCAB April 2025 Meeting Notes
^per JimGoal from the linked page above,
"Handgun Frames:
GOAL inquired about handgun frames. According to the new law, frames (even unfinished) are now a firearm. However, like the long gun context, handgun frames will not be subject to the handgun roster testing requirements. We asked, if that is the case, then can retailers sell any handgun frames they want providing they are not assault style? The answer was yes but it probably doesn’t warrant mention in the guidance letters."



I think this means frame game is do-able again and you'll be able to get whatever after a couple 007's do their thing? But they keep changing their interpretations like the wind shifts on Boston harbor so who the hell knows. maybe, ish not? that's the point of the whole exercise though, to do mental gymnastics, get tired and give up. buy what you want if you can.
 
I'm specifically thinking pistols, but lets hear your thoughts...

99.9% chance I'm moving back to Mass, Thinking while I'm in a free state I should pick up things I might want for the next 7 years or so.
f***ing don't do it. And this has nothing to do with lists

Avoid at all costs. Even living 2 min over the border. /Anything/ except taking residency here.
 
@JoeT since you missed the 8/1 cutoff you're basically screwed out of anything great. You're established so my advice would be to not move here or establish dual residency in a free state. An nh condo tax bill will set you free.
 
@JoeT since you missed the 8/1 cutoff you're basically screwed out of anything great. You're established so my advice would be to not move here or establish dual residency in a free state. An nh condo tax bill will set you free.


what's the 8/1 cutoff? I haven't been following Mass laws for a few years


And YES, MAss is a shithole that nobody should purposely move to. But I have a sick mom in Waltham, and my wife took a new position in her company for the corporate relo to Waltham. I can absolutely live anywhere near an airport, but with mom sick (and 2 brothers that point fingers at the other) and my wife's job, we're looking at a 30 minute commute to the Totten Pond Rd exit of 128
 
what's the 8/1 cutoff? I haven't been following Mass laws for a few years


And YES, MAss is a shithole that nobody should purposely move to. But I have a sick mom in Waltham, and my wife took a new position in her company for the corporate relo to Waltham. I can absolutely live anywhere near an airport, but with mom sick (and 2 brothers that point fingers at the other) and my wife's job, we're looking at a 30 minute commute to the Totten Pond Rd exit of 128

Before 8/1 you basically could have set yourself up to have all the cool shit because the law grandfathered it all. Now you're screwed. (It had to be lawfully possesed in MA on 8/1). You can still wallhack the handgun stuff before you move here but that's about it.
 
I wish I had grabbed a couple of AR-9 stripped lowers that took Glock style mags. If anyone has one, please reach out to me…
Ironically that's the one piece of like basically Ebola that I'm glad that I don't have on the other hand I kind of wish I had grabbed a couple of MP5 type deals before all of this shit went down but oh well it is what it is more money to get the f*** out of this shit hole. 🤣
 
Become ungovernable, buy what you like and don't tell everyone about it.

I made that mistake when we moved to CT from CO 12 years ago. I sold off some stuff to be close to compliant. When we moved here 2.5 years ago I went back to ftf cash transactions for stuff I got rid of. I'll not make that mistake again.

I'm 57 and wife is 53... At most it'll be a 9 year stretch. I'm thinking Mom has 2-3 years, as some point she'll need to be in a memory care unit. Sadly, I think I'll be the only one who visits. It's hard to do from 2200 miles away

Then add we have one daughter living in the north end, and the other at Uconn for another month, then URI for 3 years, and Momma misses the girls (I see them a couple times a month)

We toyed with Salem to Waltham as an option, but think rush hour 93 to 128 will be 90 minutes most days. She'd be miserable
 
Ironically that's the one piece of like basically Ebola that I'm glad that I don't have on the other hand I kind of wish I had grabbed a couple of MP5 type deals before all of this shit went down but oh well it is what it is more money to get the f*** out of this shit hole. 🤣

9mm recoil operated AR pistols aren't that great. If I'm going to have got gas blow in my face I want the projectile to be moving 2800fps.
 
No idea what you should buy because I don’t know what is or isn’t MA compliant. Just wanted to offer my condolences that you will have to live in MA.
 
😉If Massachusetts didn’t have an approved firearms roster, the options for purchasing firearms would expand significantly, allowing residents to choose from a broader range of modern and specialized guns without the constraints of the state’s restrictive list. My selections would prioritize reliability, versatility, and suitability for various purposes like self-defense, sport shooting, and hunting, while considering the state’s other regulations, such as magazine capacity limits and licensing requirements. Below is a 500-word breakdown of the firearms I’d consider, assuming the roster restriction is lifted but other laws remain.

For a primary self-defense handgun, I’d choose the **Glock 19 Gen 5**. Its compact size makes it ideal for concealed carry, and the 9mm Parabellum caliber balances recoil, capacity, and stopping power. The Glock’s reputation for reliability, even in adverse conditions, is unmatched, and its aftermarket support allows for customization like night sights or trigger upgrades. Without the roster, I’d bypass older models and go for the latest Gen 5 for its improved ergonomics and trigger feel. For a backup or alternative carry option, the **Smith & Wesson M&P Shield EZ 9mm** would be a great choice, especially for those with less hand strength. Its easy-to-rack slide and crisp trigger make it user-friendly, and the slim profile suits concealed carry in Massachusetts’ urban environments.

For home defense, I’d opt for the **Sig Sauer P320 XFive Legion**. This full-size 9mm pistol offers a heavier frame for reduced recoil, a superb trigger, and optics-ready slide for precision. Its modular design lets you swap grips or calibers (like .40 S&W or .357 SIG) if desired. The P320’s accuracy and 17+1 capacity (where permitted) make it a formidable choice for protecting your household. Without roster limits, I’d pick this over older Sig models for its modern features and performance.

For sport shooting and competition, the **CZ Shadow 2** would be my go-to. This 9mm pistol is a favorite in USPSA and IPSC circles for its buttery-smooth trigger, exceptional balance, and accuracy. The heavy steel frame soaks up recoil, letting you stay on target for faster follow-up shots. Massachusetts shooters often frequent ranges like the Harvard Sportsmen’s Club, and the Shadow 2 would shine in such settings. Without the roster, I’d grab the optics-ready version to mount a red dot for even tighter groups.

For hunting or long-range shooting, I’d select the **Ruger Precision Rifle** in **6.5 Creedmoor**. This bolt-action rifle offers sub-MOA accuracy out of the box, ideal for Massachusetts’ deer or varmint hunting seasons. Its adjustable stock and trigger make it comfortable for extended range sessions, and the 6.5 Creedmoor’s flat trajectory and mild recoil suit shots out to 1,000 yards. Without roster restrictions, I’d avoid older hunting rifles and pick this for its modern chassis design and precision.

Finally, for a versatile shotgun, I’d choose the **Benelli M4 Tactical**. This semi-auto 12-gauge is reliable for home defense, hunting, or 3-gun competitions. Its gas-operated system reduces recoil, and the ability to mount optics or lights makes it adaptable. Massachusetts’ varied terrain, from coastal marshes to wooded hills, suits the M4’s ruggedness.

These choices—Glock 19, M&P Shield EZ, P320 XFive Legion, CZ Shadow 2, Ruger Precision Rifle, and Benelli M4—cover self-defense, sport, and hunting needs with top-tier performance, unrestricted by an arbitrary roster. Each is reliable, widely supported, and tailored to Massachusetts’ practical and legal context.

**Word count: 500**
 
😉If Massachusetts didn’t have an approved firearms roster, the options for purchasing firearms would expand significantly, allowing residents to choose from a broader range of modern and specialized guns without the constraints of the state’s restrictive list. My selections would prioritize reliability, versatility, and suitability for various purposes like self-defense, sport shooting, and hunting, while considering the state’s other regulations, such as magazine capacity limits and licensing requirements. Below is a 500-word breakdown of the firearms I’d consider, assuming the roster restriction is lifted but other laws remain.

For a primary self-defense handgun, I’d choose the **Glock 19 Gen 5**. Its compact size makes it ideal for concealed carry, and the 9mm Parabellum caliber balances recoil, capacity, and stopping power. The Glock’s reputation for reliability, even in adverse conditions, is unmatched, and its aftermarket support allows for customization like night sights or trigger upgrades. Without the roster, I’d bypass older models and go for the latest Gen 5 for its improved ergonomics and trigger feel. For a backup or alternative carry option, the **Smith & Wesson M&P Shield EZ 9mm** would be a great choice, especially for those with less hand strength. Its easy-to-rack slide and crisp trigger make it user-friendly, and the slim profile suits concealed carry in Massachusetts’ urban environments.

For home defense, I’d opt for the **Sig Sauer P320 XFive Legion**. This full-size 9mm pistol offers a heavier frame for reduced recoil, a superb trigger, and optics-ready slide for precision. Its modular design lets you swap grips or calibers (like .40 S&W or .357 SIG) if desired. The P320’s accuracy and 17+1 capacity (where permitted) make it a formidable choice for protecting your household. Without roster limits, I’d pick this over older Sig models for its modern features and performance.

For sport shooting and competition, the **CZ Shadow 2** would be my go-to. This 9mm pistol is a favorite in USPSA and IPSC circles for its buttery-smooth trigger, exceptional balance, and accuracy. The heavy steel frame soaks up recoil, letting you stay on target for faster follow-up shots. Massachusetts shooters often frequent ranges like the Harvard Sportsmen’s Club, and the Shadow 2 would shine in such settings. Without the roster, I’d grab the optics-ready version to mount a red dot for even tighter groups.

For hunting or long-range shooting, I’d select the **Ruger Precision Rifle** in **6.5 Creedmoor**. This bolt-action rifle offers sub-MOA accuracy out of the box, ideal for Massachusetts’ deer or varmint hunting seasons. Its adjustable stock and trigger make it comfortable for extended range sessions, and the 6.5 Creedmoor’s flat trajectory and mild recoil suit shots out to 1,000 yards. Without roster restrictions, I’d avoid older hunting rifles and pick this for its modern chassis design and precision.

Finally, for a versatile shotgun, I’d choose the **Benelli M4 Tactical**. This semi-auto 12-gauge is reliable for home defense, hunting, or 3-gun competitions. Its gas-operated system reduces recoil, and the ability to mount optics or lights makes it adaptable. Massachusetts’ varied terrain, from coastal marshes to wooded hills, suits the M4’s ruggedness.

These choices—Glock 19, M&P Shield EZ, P320 XFive Legion, CZ Shadow 2, Ruger Precision Rifle, and Benelli M4—cover self-defense, sport, and hunting needs with top-tier performance, unrestricted by an arbitrary roster. Each is reliable, widely supported, and tailored to Massachusetts’ practical and legal context.

**Word count: 500**
Was this AI or are you just on the entire spectrum?
 
😉If Massachusetts didn’t have an approved firearms roster, the options for purchasing firearms would expand significantly, allowing residents to choose from a broader range of modern and specialized guns without the constraints of the state’s restrictive list. My selections would prioritize reliability, versatility, and suitability for various purposes like self-defense, sport shooting, and hunting, while considering the state’s other regulations, such as magazine capacity limits and licensing requirements. Below is a 500-word breakdown of the firearms I’d consider, assuming the roster restriction is lifted but other laws remain.

For a primary self-defense handgun, I’d choose the **Glock 19 Gen 5**. Its compact size makes it ideal for concealed carry, and the 9mm Parabellum caliber balances recoil, capacity, and stopping power. The Glock’s reputation for reliability, even in adverse conditions, is unmatched, and its aftermarket support allows for customization like night sights or trigger upgrades. Without the roster, I’d bypass older models and go for the latest Gen 5 for its improved ergonomics and trigger feel. For a backup or alternative carry option, the **Smith & Wesson M&P Shield EZ 9mm** would be a great choice, especially for those with less hand strength. Its easy-to-rack slide and crisp trigger make it user-friendly, and the slim profile suits concealed carry in Massachusetts’ urban environments.

For home defense, I’d opt for the **Sig Sauer P320 XFive Legion**. This full-size 9mm pistol offers a heavier frame for reduced recoil, a superb trigger, and optics-ready slide for precision. Its modular design lets you swap grips or calibers (like .40 S&W or .357 SIG) if desired. The P320’s accuracy and 17+1 capacity (where permitted) make it a formidable choice for protecting your household. Without roster limits, I’d pick this over older Sig models for its modern features and performance.

For sport shooting and competition, the **CZ Shadow 2** would be my go-to. This 9mm pistol is a favorite in USPSA and IPSC circles for its buttery-smooth trigger, exceptional balance, and accuracy. The heavy steel frame soaks up recoil, letting you stay on target for faster follow-up shots. Massachusetts shooters often frequent ranges like the Harvard Sportsmen’s Club, and the Shadow 2 would shine in such settings. Without the roster, I’d grab the optics-ready version to mount a red dot for even tighter groups.

For hunting or long-range shooting, I’d select the **Ruger Precision Rifle** in **6.5 Creedmoor**. This bolt-action rifle offers sub-MOA accuracy out of the box, ideal for Massachusetts’ deer or varmint hunting seasons. Its adjustable stock and trigger make it comfortable for extended range sessions, and the 6.5 Creedmoor’s flat trajectory and mild recoil suit shots out to 1,000 yards. Without roster restrictions, I’d avoid older hunting rifles and pick this for its modern chassis design and precision.

Finally, for a versatile shotgun, I’d choose the **Benelli M4 Tactical**. This semi-auto 12-gauge is reliable for home defense, hunting, or 3-gun competitions. Its gas-operated system reduces recoil, and the ability to mount optics or lights makes it adaptable. Massachusetts’ varied terrain, from coastal marshes to wooded hills, suits the M4’s ruggedness.

These choices—Glock 19, M&P Shield EZ, P320 XFive Legion, CZ Shadow 2, Ruger Precision Rifle, and Benelli M4—cover self-defense, sport, and hunting needs with top-tier performance, unrestricted by an arbitrary roster. Each is reliable, widely supported, and tailored to Massachusetts’ practical and legal context.

**Word count: 500**
GPT has been known to be lib anti gun leaning. Notice no love for the AK or AR assault weapon platforms
 


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