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That's a confusing page. It talks about upgrades, as if to imply they still intend to restrict. Otherwise, most of that garbage would be unnecessary.
I'll likely try to come up, if only for moral support. Undecided if I'll ask to talk.
Anyone want to find a beer afterward? (Unofficial NES meetup?)
What Lowell PD should do is inform their officers thatThat's a confusing page. It talks about upgrades, as if to imply they still intend to restrict. Otherwise, most of that garbage would be unnecessary.
I'll likely try to come up, if only for moral support. Undecided if I'll ask to talk.
Anyone want to find a beer afterward? (Unofficial NES meetup?)
Reads to me like it is.This is their updated requirements?
Applicants for an unrestricted LTC should also provide any additional documentation they may have that will assist the Superintendent in making a determination that issuance of an unrestricted LTC to the applicant will not pose a threat to public safety. Applicants are encouraged to submit as much such documentation as possible. Examples of such documentation include, but are not limited to:
- Current or prior service in the military;
- Current or prior service in law enforcement;
- Prior receipt of an unrestricted LTC from another community or state, with no record of any violation of any term or condition of the LTC;
- Prior receipt of a restricted LTC from Lowell or from another community or state, with no record of any violation of any term or condition of the LTC (the receipt of such from Lowell will carry greater weight than the receipt of such license from elsewhere
- Prior receipt of a Firearms Identification Card (FID) from Lowell or from another community or state, with no record of any violation of any term or condition of the FID (the receipt of such from Lowell will carry greater weight than the receipt of such license from elsewhere);
- Prior receipt of a hunter safety training and/or experience hunting;
- Signed letters of recommendation that show the applicant's good character and emotional stability. Such letters of recommendation should indicate that the applicant is not subject to excessive drinking habits, substance abuse, or violent behavior. Letters of reference may, but need not, be from the references listed on the applicant's application. Letters from an applicant's relatives are not acceptable. Each letter of reference must be on 8.5 inches x 11 inches paper and be signed, dated, and show the reference's name, address and telephone number. The Superintendent of the Lowell Police Department, or his or her designee, reserves the right to contact each reference.
Do note the should in the above.
The punch in the mouth is very likely to occur very soon. See here.They will cling to this suitability bullshit until they get punched in the mouth in court.
Yep. This must be litigated by the first applicant refused... By NRA/GOALIt's obvious they still don't get it. The letters are all bullshit, none of that crap is necessary. If you are not a prohibited person you get your LTC unrestricted.
NRA has shown that they're joiners in these cases, not leaders any more. GOAL writes legislation. COMM2A and FPC present - and win - legal challenges.Yep. This must be litigated by the first applicant refused... ByNRA/GOALCOMM2A/FPC
NRA has shown that they're joiners in these cases, not leaders any more. GOAL writes legislation. COMM2A and FPC present - and win - legal challenges.
It was pushed later because they chose to take some of the motions and articles out of order. So I ended up leaving.
NRA will throw some money into the pot, though, if only so that they can claim victory later.
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Why is Canton the worst??This. Anti-gun police departments are not going to change until a court specifically forces them to.
Canton stopped sucking 100 yrs ago, unless there are new problems.Why is Canton the worst??
The NES map labels Canton as grey. It's the only town that is grey. Guessing that the map is outdated then.Canton stopped sucking 100 yrs ago, unless there are new problems.
ETA: Worst in mass is Brookline. By miles.
Yes, probably ancient. Post bruen a lot of those maps don't mean much.The NES map labels Canton as grey. It's the only town that is grey. Guessing that the map is outdated then.
IIRC, those maps all scraped from the old thread. The one that hasn't been maintained for years, and was finally replaced. (Thanks again, @drgrant!)Yes, probably ancient. Post bruen a lot of those maps don't mean much.
if you reread the thread, I'm pretty sure Lowell got straightened out.So,
Brookline
Lowell
Framingham
Canton
Cambridge
Newton
sound about right?
There are tons of them but the problems are different now vs restrictions. Turtling, poor communication, and extrajudicial requirements are often not well documented.Did you read the post directly above mine?
So, some of those things were corrected. Are the towns actually better, or just in these specific cases?
If so, what are the "problem towns" in MA now. Your turn.
Someone who doesn't even live in MA any more shared their generalized opinions about Lowell. That's your defense?Did you read the post directly above mine?
Go to the correct threads for the topic, and read them. You're years behind and factually out of your depths.So, some of those things were corrected. Are the towns actually better, or just in these specific cases?
Brookline? Almost certainly. I don't think we've heard any updates, but based on the last things I've seen and heard, they're still the only ones demanding the Moon Island test. That's a really bad sign. The biggest problem is that new applicants are rare there, so we don't get a lot of info.If so, what are the "problem towns" in MA now. Your turn.
Not sure what "turtling" means other than just slow. What about the whole "appointment" not available thing?There are tons of them but the problems are different now vs restrictions. Turtling, poor communication, and extrajudicial requirements are often not well documented.
The problem is now some "green" towns are also douche towns because the focus of the bad behaviors is not based on restrictions but other problems.
I did not even notice that. What am I in "defense" of again?Someone who doesn't even live in MA any more shared their generalized opinions about Lowell. That's your defense?