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I added myself to their emailer blast. If I get the opportunity, I'll snatch one up at $1k-1100.I purchased one right before they sold out, they were 1050$, but were shipping out in mint shape as well.
My 1943 Luger is the second most accurate handgun I own. The First would be my 1942 Walther P38. I would love to CC either one of those, but wouldn't want to lose them if anything happened.Yes. I've shot them. I'm not expecting a modern rifle. I have an AR, AK, X95, etc. I have plenty of 9mm handguns too, but the next purchase will be a Luger. Are they great? No, but there's something about them I like.
CMP it is.
If you reload to anything other than USGI standards, it gets even more expensive.The M1 is fun to shoot but expensive, unless you reload.
U.S. Rifle, Caliber 30, M1 is a piece of history. I have a CMP with a new stock, 1943 SA receiver and 1946 SA barrel. It will leave a mark on anything I shoot, is not a large capacity, (only 8 rounds oh my!) and the commies in the MA state government have no clue about it. Good enough for the US Marine Corp Silent Drill Team
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXa39XyP6q8
your unlikely to shoot it enough to wear it much more.I'm well aware of the CMP. My only concern is that the rifles have original barrels, etc. May not hold up very long with a +2 or +3 throat and muzzle reading.
They can compete in the cmp games modern military match and the NRA high power matches and I believe the EIC matches?308 can't compete in CMP matches, just an FYI, even though they WERE issued (to the Navy, during the NATO early days)
As the CMP sorts through the 80k rifles they acquired recently they items will com back in stock. If there are enough space parts and stripped receivers the specials will be back.I have wanted an M1 Garand for a long time, but 30-06 aint cheap. This thread made go over to see what the CMP was up to, and I see this:
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I didn't know the CMP was offering rebarreled 308 Garand's, does anyone know what those usually go for from CMP? With the price of surplus 762NATO these days, I would surely like to get my hands on one of those.
The navy held onto the garand before it was issued M14,M16 so they converted Garands to the 7.62,NATO for logistic of ammo commonality. The navy is last on the list to get new small armsSpeaking of which, what is the reasoning for a Garand in 308? Is it for a more common round /slightly cheaper to run? Is there another factor for this?
Genuinely curious.
Wow. Where to begin.
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As the CMP sorts through the 80k rifles they acquired recently they items will com back in stock. If there are enough space parts and stripped receivers the specials will be back.
the specials where last listed at $1030 shipped.
you could pick up a field grade and re barrel for about the same also.
The navy held onto the garand before it was issued M14,M16 so they converted Garands to the 7.62,NATO for logistic of ammo commonality. The navy is last on the list to get new small arms
The navy held onto the garand before it was issued M14,M16 so they converted Garands to the 7.62,NATO for logistic of ammo commonality. The navy is last on the list to get new small arms
This can be true , using any of the appropriate burn rate powders and the bulk 150 grain hornady that used to be "cheap" I'm at .30 cents per round on 2015 prices. I'm almost out of those supplies.If you reload to anything other than USGI standards, it gets even more expensive.
Cool , I know a guy who has a 308 case with the adapter stuck to the case. He said it came out of some of the testing he did at the navy testing grounds in PA many years ago.And here is what was used to convert them. An insert was used to convert the 30-06 chamber to 7.62 x 51. A groove was cut into the chamber with the tool on the right, the spacer dropped in and set with the tool on the left and then a high pressure test round fired to displace some spacer material into the groove.
if those prices are valid that's not terrible.I'm looking to pick up a nice Garand. I really don't care about it being all original. This is a rifle I'd like to shoot a lot and not worry too much about taking away it's value. I saw this website and it seems right for what I'm looking for. Anyone have any suggestions? Am I thinking about this the wrong way?
This can be true , using any of the appropriate burn rate powders and the bulk 150 grain hornady that used to be "cheap" I'm at .30 cents per round on 2015 prices. I'm almost out of those supplies.
Most recent prices: primer .03¢ powder .15¢ Nosler CC .18¢=¢.36 New production PPU can be found for ¢.68-74 round.
A few months back I traded one of my coveted Colt 1911's for a CMP Special Grade .308. The previous owner said he bought it new from CMP and never fired it. He wasn't lying. The guts were still caked with factory grease and there were no signs of the rifle having been fired. It's a 4 million block 1953 Springfield Armory receiver with mostly U.S.G.I. parts except the brand new CMP stock set and Criterion .308 barrel.
The other guy got the better end of the deal I think, as that Colt was worth well north of $1200 but I never shot it, and I had been looking for a nice .308 Garand to shoot for years. I understand the thinking in what cabitman posted about getting a "real" Garand in the correct caliber, but I'm also in the same boat as Ed. I wanted one in .308 for the cost factor, (I reload for my FAL as well), and one that I could shoot the heck out of and not worry about diminishing it's value. It's now near the top of my favorite rifles to shoot list. If you can find one (OP and Ed) you won't be disappointed. Awesome shooting rifle and yes, the watered-down .308 when compared to the mighty 30-06 is easier on the shoulder and the wallet.
I believe the comment was to reflect that modern hunting ammunition is loaded hotter than the M2 ball ammunition the M1 was designed for. Repeated use of easy to get modern ammunition tends to bend the op-rod. The op-rods are not cheap.
If you reload to "modern" standards, you can bend the op-rod. If you reload to M2 spec, everything should be fine.
There are also some other tricks that can be used to take some of the edge off of modern ammunition. There are adjustable venting gas plugs and a gas plug with more head room that are supposed to make modern ammunition less likely to bend or break something.
Cool , I know a guy who has a 308 case with the adapter stuck to the case. He said it came out of some of the testing he did at the navy testing grounds in PA many years ago.
My dad was in the air force as a mechanic he had to qualify to shoot as part of hanger security of something? He qualified on a M16a1 but when stationed the ",armory" was stocked with some 1903a3s,garands and M14s . He always said he would giggle as the 03 and garands where tagged with huge letters M2 30 cal "30-06" only .
when he left the air force he went to NG where they had some of the most worn beat up M1s.
Originally be learned to shoot in the army on a garand and only used a M14 once before going to air force.
Without hijacking this thread, I'd like to strongly suggest that you shoot surplus ammo or new ammo built around the same specs. Commercial ammo in an older M1 is not a good combo. Commercial ammo has thinner case walls, softer primers, and a pressure spike way different than military spec ammo. You can feel it and hear it when you shoot them side by side. Commercial ammo will also "test" your op-rod. If you're interested, there has been a lot of discussion about this issue here: M1 Garand Ammunition and the Ported Gas Plug Just thought this might be helpful and save someones rifle.
If you buy a cmp service grade in 30-06 don’t worry about shooting. JMG designed the M1 to be used.....a lot.I get the whole "real" and "correct" thing, and if I were some kind of collector I would already have one, probably multiple. But I am not a gun collector, I am a shooter. I don't buy guns for the history of them or any of that, I buy them to shoot. I would never shoot a 30-06 Garand anywhere near as much as I would shoot one in 308 so a 30-06 would defeat the purpose of me buying one.