MA Gun Grab 2024: H.4885 - Passed legislature, headed to the governor

[VTski4x4]

every one of them need to be replaced all the way down to town government, the only answer. one can dream

We aren't voting our way out of this.

 

[Roadglide]

So when is the deadline to stock up

 

[PappyM3]

I think I'm a little slow on the pickup on this one. But with all the talk about Glock switches on that bill today, I just realized why they hate Glocks. I suspect all along there have been some who didn't care about a loaded chamber indicator, safety selector, etcetera, but were actually afraid of them because of the idea that people are making them full auto just by swapping out some parts. It's like the ATF and open bolt semi-autos.

Maybe I'm wrong, but that was the impression I got.

The anti-glock stance by the AG’s office has been going on for a lot longer than glock switches have been around, let alone common.

I’m pretty sure it stemmed from the AG’s office demanding Glock hand over certain information (don’t recall what) and Glock telling them to pound sand because they were under no legal obligation to hand the information over.

 

[CrackPot]

you're right, there is 3, the other one is the stupid, "its grandfathered as long as you register it BS"

Proving her again they don’t know our own laws if they think we have registration.

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

looks like we may be coming back. Just heard some audio briefly.

 

[TJ4]

every one of them need to be replaced all the way down to town government, the only answer. one can dream

Soros has said that he learned early on that his money went much farther in influencing government when he started looking down the chain to local races for DA‘s, judges, and state and other county-level elections. He’ll throw money at national races, but, he gets much more bang for his buck by owning DA’s, AG’s, and judges.

 

[VTski4x4]

So when is the deadline to stock up

If you have to stock up now, you're wayyyy behind.

 

[dukeofsoul]

I’m still waiting for them to send me my approved LTC ffs. Looks like I won’t be able to get anything.

 

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

So are newer gun owners getting lubed since grandfathering post 2016 will be a thing? This is a total miscarriage of justice and a disgrace to the Founding Fathers memory.

 

[pupchow]

The said it themselves "a gun free Massachusetts" - that's their goal. Never forget that. They are now traitors to their oath.

I need to find a way to have a clip of that to share.

 

[VTski4x4]

So are newer gun owners getting lubed since grandfathering post 2016 will be a thing? This is a total miscarriage of justice and a disgrace to the Founding Fathers memory.

2016 isn't anything. It isn't a law. Her decree was nothing. If they try and do that, they'll get slapped in the dick faster than you can imagine.

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

So are newer gun owners getting lubed since grandfathering post 2016 will be a thing? This is a total miscarriage of justice and a disgrace to the Founding Fathers memory.

hilarious thinking they will use lube.. these pricks are going in dry.

 

[Reptile]

2016 isn't anything. It isn't a law. Her decree was nothing. If they try and do that, they'll get slapped in the dick faster than you can imagine.

I disagree.

They make they laws.

They can choose any date they want.

 

[Nightshift]

every one of them need to be replaced all the way down to town government, the only answer. one can dream

They need to be charge then prosecuted. Lives ruined as they are jovially doing to their constituents. A model to those that follow!

 

[CrackPot]

the second one is by the bills author. It makes the July 20th 2016 date the grandfathered date.

And of course 2016 is a fake grandfathering date and they know if. It’s punishment for everyone buying from the Mill. It risks the same outcome as no grandfathering which is a court throwing out the entire AWB on 4th, 5th and/or 14th amendment grounds. All the court can do is nuke mgl 140 131M.

Stupid of them if they don’t use either the language of when the law is effective or 8/1/24.

And of course the only if “registered” language is its own dumpster fire. What happens when the court figures out you can’t register not to mention the ambiguity (acknowledged in this bill) over assembling or manufacturing your own.

And while we are at it, all AR lowers are now assault weapons under this bill and you can’t even fake register them since they are not weapons under current MGL.


So much infringement, so much ignorance.

 

[Reptile]

hilarious thinking they will use lube.. these pricks are going in dry.

 

[dukeofsoul]

I just want a ruger pcc for home defense (go ahead, make fun). Am I going to be shit out of luck?

 

[Roadglide]

If you have to stock up now, you're wayyyy behind.

No shit. If I knew you had and endless supply of money to give me I would’ve hit you up a while ago.

 

[Cowboy20]

So are newer gun owners getting lubed since grandfathering post 2016 will be a thing? This is a total miscarriage of justice and a disgrace to the Founding Fathers memory.

Maybe if you consider sand paper a lubricant

 

[Reptile]

No shit. If I knew you had and endless supply of money to give me I would’ve hit you up a while ago.

I told many of you when the House Bill was released.

You all have credit cards.

I get great balance transfer offers.

I just got 4% for $5,000 until 2/2025.

Use your credit to buy stuff.

 

[AJK129]

I told many of you when the House Bill was released.

You all have credit cards.

I get great balance transfer offers.

I just got 4% for $5,000 until 2/2025.

Use your credit to buy stuff.

A uhauls a lot cheaper

 

[kalash]

I told many of you when the House Bill was released.

You all have credit cards.

I get great balance transfer offers.

I just got 4% for $5,000 until 2/2025.

Use your credit to buy stuff.

Getting into credit card debt to pantshit and buy guns you don't need is idiotic.

 

[VTski4x4]

Getting into credit card debt to pantshit and buy guns you don't need is idiotic.

Only the Lord can judge me

 

[Nightshift]

What are these two words, “don’t need”?

 

[slipknot]

We aren't voting our way out of this.

who said voting out, I mean remove and replace

 

[Mesatchornug]

I just want a ruger pcc for home defense (go ahead, make fun). Am I going to be shit out of luck?

Depending on the model, you could be fine.

 

[Reptile]

The suspense is killing me...

I got some brie from Trader Joes yesterday.

Time to cut off a couple slices to calm me down!!!

 

[Hombiez]

the second one is by the bills author. It makes the July 20th 2016 date the grandfathered date.

It does not

This is insidious. It only protects these from the copies and duplicates test. Still assault weapons under the “semi automatic version of an automatic firearm” test and the “if originally manufactured as an assault weapon test.

Note that it says shall not be considered a copy or duplicate- not that these shall not be considered assault weapons

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

It does not

This is insidious. It only protects these from the copies and duplicates test. Still assault weapons under the “semi automatic version of an automatic firearm” test and the “if originally manufactured as an assault weapon test.

Note that it says shall not be considered a copy or duplicate- not that these shall not be considered assault weapons

but if they arent considered a copy or a duplicate, then they only have to pass the 2 features test of the existing AWB. A test that all rifles sold post 94 in the state should pass. Remember a copy or duplicate renders the features portion of the law irrelevant.

 

[not new guy]

We might be better off waiting for the dust to settle before trying to parse out shit like this.