Agnotology
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They use our tax dollars to pay themselves to pass unconstitutional laws so we have to use our post tax dollars to have orgs fight in the courts on our behalf.
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MA Gun Grab 2024: H.4885 - Passed legislature, headed to the governor
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GOALs amendment page is showing updated info on which one is passing or not.
HorizontalHunter
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It was never in doubt
Jsfitzgerald85
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Amendment S.2572
malegislature.gov
this is also being updated as they go.
on & off... it is too much bullshit to take in one sitting of the "Queen's men"
sad sad day FFS
pastera
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Until someone parks one in a basement garage of an important building and sends a hv round through the pack igniting a majority of the cells simultaneously.
Dennis in MA
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Like it was going to help. I mean, I appreciate putting the major brakes on this whole thing but it was destined to pass. They could put in there to execute every gun owner in the state, no exceptions for LEO and they'd have passed it.
The only hope is that we get the injunction and then the Illinois case is decided in the meantime making this either valid or not. That's all we've ever had.
What is shocking is this: We are trying to protect people. Exactly what Democrats said in the 50's when separate-but-equal was struck down by the courts. Back then it was all the black boys were gonna F your white girls. Now it's the crazed gun owners are gonna kill all your white girls.
slipknot
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Yes complete BS
After hearing Rep. Steven Xiarhos speak last night at our club in Bourne, I conclude we are ALL Fk'd
The only chance we have is once we find out who the hand picked 6 people assigned to the committee to combined the House bill and Senate bill, is to absolutely hammer them with emails, phone calls , letters and in person visits bringing up all the bad this bill is and how wrong the whole process is. I mean EVERYONE.
These freaks just don't care
We have to fight back before it's too late, I am NOT a Communist
Interesting is says a member of the task force to be nominated by GOAL.
Definitely at our cost.
We need illegal aliens to bring a dei suit against this as burdensome cost for them to own Jennings gutter finds.
I saw that too. How nice of them….
Lets see if the grandfathering amendment gets passed.
Otherwise, we are all felons.
What are they going to do - go door to door?
It will only bolster our chances in court.
Otherwise, we are all felons.
What are they going to do - go door to door?
It will only bolster our chances in court.
CrackPot
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Just a committe for now and Goal is on it. So Goal can try and educate the grabbers about the challenges.
pastera
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The fix is in - we don't want a watered down anything to come out of committee.
The more blatantly egregious it is the more likely an injunction is to come down on it.
Even the 1st knows SCOTUS' patience must be wearing thing with all of the Bruen temper tantrums.
I just noticed there are two different grandfathering clauses?
Jsfitzgerald85
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the second one is by the bills author. It makes the July 20th 2016 date the grandfathered date.
You and I both know soon is almost a guarantee. I hope it is not the case and the time spent for “education” will change their minds. It would be an absolutely onerous and burdensome task to do so.
Ah I see thank you for the clarification
I see three, but I'm not 100% up to speed on all the amendments.
dukeofsoul
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So I’m still waiting for the state to send me my LTC card. Will this mean I can’t even get a ruger pc carbine?? Would that qualify as an Assault rifle under the legislation? Even if I was able to get it, would it not be able to be grandfathered in?
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Jsfitzgerald85
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its listed as a technical amendment. My guess is, the bill was supposed to contain the 2016 date but in typical politician fashion....they "forgot"
Jsfitzgerald85
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you're right, there is 3, the other one is the stupid, "its grandfathered as long as you register it BS"
I think I'm a little slow on the pickup on this one. But with all the talk about Glock switches on that bill today, I just realized why they hate Glocks. I suspect all along there have been some who didn't care about a loaded chamber indicator, safety selector, etcetera, but were actually afraid of them because of the idea that people are making them full auto just by swapping out some parts. It's like the ATF and open bolt semi-autos.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that was the impression I got.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that was the impression I got.
slipknot
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while they use our tax dollars to defend their tyranny
not new guy
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They don't understand enough about any of this to have that as their reasoning. They've hated glocks forever because to them it's almost a generic term for scary black semi handgun.
VTski4x4
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The said it themselves "a gun free Massachusetts" - that's their goal. Never forget that. They are now traitors to their oath.
quinnjalan
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Must be nap time! I'd love a job like that!
Just realize that Glock switches are already illegal under Federal law. But it's not enforced for the average person with a Glock switch. This makes it so that it can be prosecuted at a state level. I'm pretty sure that anyone who is already NOT afraid of the consequences of getting picked up federally for a "machine gun," will not care about a state charge as well. But hey, as long as Jamie Eldridge can have another pint of ice cream tonight, it's good.
slipknot
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every one of them need to be replaced all the way down to town government, the only answer. one can dream
This right here. None of the elected officials pushing this bill through wrote a single word of it or have any knowledge of firearms other than what their wives’ boyfriends tell them during hot yoga classes. They cut and pasted the entire bill from whatever national group drafted it for them. If the super majority takes any recesses to discuss amendments, it’s to get the national group on the phone to tell them what to do. If the senate is pushing their own version, it’s just because they have more clout to take it from the lowly reps and take credit for “landmark legislation.”
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