Maryland AWB case Snope v Brown going to SCOTUS. (Formerly Bianchi v Brown & Bianchi v Frosh)

Varmint said:
I don't think they will do this, the reason is ignoring the Supreme Court guts the power of the federal government, because if left states start to ignore the federal government, so will the right states.

Biden and the left love a powerful federal government so I don't think they will undermine its power.
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The power of the federation of independent states lies in the respect for the independent, impartial judiciary culminating in the Supreme Court.
If individual states reject the constitution then the united states is a defunct loose confederacy.
 
HARRYM said:
Leftist States will tell SCOTUS to eff off.

Leftist Judges will tell SCOTUS to eff off.

Biden told SCOTUS to eff off.

At the end of the day what can SCOTUS really do once the Leftists drop all pretenses and consider themselves the final rule of law.
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sbhaven said:
Miller was apparently killed in April 1939, the case was heard/argued before SCOTUS in March 1939. And yes a bag job from start to finish.
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Iirc, Miller was murdered a few days before the decision was handed down.
Definitely a bag job.
The claim in the decision that sawed off shotguns were not useful to military service was ridiculous, as the yellow journalism during the Great War refuted.
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Varmint said:
I don't think they will do this, the reason is ignoring the Supreme Court guts the power of the federal government, because if left states start to ignore the federal government, so will the right states.

Biden and the left love a powerful federal government so I don't think they will undermine its power.
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They are doing it now with continuing student loan debt forgiveness.
 
HARRYM said:
Heller and Bruen CLEARLY defined 2A rights.

Leftist States like MA said who gives a shit.

What happens.
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Our legal system gets people off cause a cop used the wrong baggie to store the murder weapon. As Picton said it takes time and numerous decisions to make this stick.
 
drgrant said:
Lol unanimous makes it a great case? They were unanimous in deciding that they had an easy out.

It's not that difficult to get an RO plaintiff from mass that's basically unimpeachable from a criminal and character standpoint; because there's virtually no or limited due process, bogus claims, even provably bogus ones, are allowed to stand by default. It's not just an MA thing either; thousands of family law attorneys encourage typically female plaintiffs to file bogus DV ROs to get the upper hand in custody or divorce battles because they know the odds are long of their client even being taken to task over it.

It almost makes me think that Rahimi was a deliberate well poisoning job. It now serves as a free bingo sqare for them to dodge Lautenberg etc, forever. The only good outcome is it potentially stops another pile of steaming trash on DV from getting cert. 🤣
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A buddy and member here recently got jammed up and that situation. He’s got people squatting in a house. They kept trying to bring up guns to try to get us in trouble that didn’t work. They went forward with harassment charges.

All he did was post an eviction notice for 30 days and on day 31.. he had to go to court court botched the paperwork, saying the issue and state and end date of the restraining order the same days so that’s not really very useful anybody.

He’ll be getting back down to court real soon and I’ll throw all this shit out and hopefully throw out the tenants. it’s a big family drama thing.

It makes me wanna rearrange my affairs so if it happens to me, it’s not gonna be nearly as devastating, inconvenient yes..

I’ve got to throw out a thousand dollars in modify my trust.. after ATF approval I may add all my remaining firearms to the trust cause that’s easy..

Not really that easy though I had to dig through everything and record all the numbers. I have a master list around here somewhere anyway, but I have to confirm it’s accurate.

I just figured I’d add all the non-NFA items to the trust after my form 4s are ate approved…

Otherwise friend of federal government with a complete list. Not that it really matters. I just don’t like the idea of it.
 
Picton said:
It would depend on the wording of the ban, and how it's applied. If CT's law is identical to MA's, then sure, striking down the CT law would strike down the MA law.

But remember Bruen: it struck down NYS' licensing scheme. There was never any expectation that it would eliminate MA's licensing. The Commonwealth did have to change its licensing to accommodate the Bruen opinion, but it stayed in place.

So when SCOTUS strikes down CT's law, there will be parts of that ruling that MA will have to implement. But not necessarily the whole ball of wax. I do think that once SCOTUS starts nuking AWBs, the writing will be on the wall and MA might repeal theirs simply to avoid a SCOTUS loss. Then again, they might make us challenge that law too. Depends on how dickish and spiteful they feel like being.
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The Anti's at state level will play a zero sum game and make the 2A supporters pay as much as possible in lawyer fees. The most pushback on Bruen we've seen is in NYC, but outside of cities and at the state level we're not seeing that much resistance, however AWB is going to be something all Donk states fight to the very end.

A SCOTUS magazine capacity case ruling will be a lot more straightforward, like the bump stock one because it simply comes down to round count and being detachable, the AWB's across the usual states can be quite varied and the attacks by the Anti's have been focused on them for so long they're not gonna let that go easily.
 
Varmint said:
I wouldn’t think so, we need are more targeted case, or maybe to get the NFA thrown out.
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NFA is the ultimate goal, but it's also the least likely. My thinking is if it's unconstitutional for states to ban firearms due to features, then how is it constitutional for states to ban firearms with short barrels or AOW's or suppressors? These may be federally regulated, but states banning them is a grosser violation that doesn't hold up to the 2nd or 14th Amendment.
 
VetteGirlMA said:
I was reading this morning that the 4th circuit sat on the case for over a year and only released the decision when they were facing another 2nd amendment challenge that they knew they were going to lose. The case was decided almost immediately after hearing all the evidence but shelved and dissenting opinions were not allowed.

Courts are sitting on these decisions while they hope for shifts in scotus makeup. I'm sure that's the case with the MA weapons roster case that was heard in front of the 1st circuit in what seems like forever ago.

Edit: Found the reference from the dissent that the court was just sitting on the case:

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Tin foil time the left wanted to make this election about guns like 2022 was about abortion and sat on a case until election
 
pastera said:
Read the 4th's opinion AND the dissent
I can't see a world where Roberts doesn't take on this case unless the Dems have a couple of terabytes of kiddie porn lined up for his hard drive just in case.
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Will do, although it increasingly seems those in positions of power get there due to having such evil afflictions with subtle silken support.

Even Reagan said hold my beer in the ‘94 ban.
 

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