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Need advice on a rifle scope
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you and everyone else trying it for the first time. Hope you had fun!
The "flat range"? Is that the new passive-aggressive way to refer to Highpower Rifle ranges?
Next you'll drag us into the old discussion about how MOA is dead...
To the OP: as you may have inferred; there's more than one way to skin a cat.
You've heard what I've said. You've heard what others have said. Take it all with a grain of salt.
Next you'll drag us into the old discussion about how MOA is dead...
To the OP: as you may have inferred; there's more than one way to skin a cat.
You've heard what I've said. You've heard what others have said. Take it all with a grain of salt.
You can setup your rifle however, it legitimately doesn't matter if you choose to mount your scope 5 degrees off - provided the scope is parallel with gravity when you let the rounds fly. Somehow you do need to achieve this consistency...
I'm not really good at knowing exactly what's level or not, except if a tool is measuring it for me. But it is easier for me to start by doing my best to level the rifle, even if I don't have a bubble or reference for the cross hairs.
I'm not really good at knowing exactly what's level or not, except if a tool is measuring it for me. But it is easier for me to start by doing my best to level the rifle, even if I don't have a bubble or reference for the cross hairs.
Nothing passive aggressive about it at all. I enjoy service rifle/high power. However, itās but one small facet of shooting and you seem to apply it to any rifle discussion. There are so many other variables to consider.
Not to get into a big thing here, but if you shoot Highpower, then you know it is all about Fundamental Marksmanship. The fundamentals transcend disciplines and are applied, or should be applied, across the spectrum of all rifle sports.
You shoot both highpower and prs, so you are a good person to illustrate my point, so I'll ask you; do you think you're a better prs shooter because you've learned marksmanship fundamentals in Highpower Rifle? Or do you think you shoot better HP Rifle now that you've taken up prs?
I wouldnāt say it doesnāt matter. Having a canted rifle with a level reticle doesnāt have nearly as much effect down range as having both reticle and rifle canted. But there is still an effect to consider before choosing to do that.
Iām not sure how this topic of applies to our discussion of scopes. Yes, fundamentals apply to both disciplines. Fundamentals are important. And I learned a lot in service rifle about wind calls and off-hand techniques.
But in more dynamic competitions, there are also random target distances, hard to see targets, random shooting positions, uneven terrain, and the possibility of 3D wind effects. All new variables to consider, and more closely align with real world shooting situations.
You can have your scope canted in the rings so that when you hold your rifle, the reticle is level with gravity, but your rifle isnāt perfectly underneath the scope. The rifle is canted, but the scope is not. This results in a little bit of windage being added to your elevation adjustments. It can be very minor depending on how much cant to the rifle. This is done to adapt to your shooting style/hold and is setup on purpose.
Conversely, if you have the scope perfectly level with the rifle, but then accidentally cant both the scope and rifle togetherā¦ or if you have the rifle level, but the scope accidentally canted in the rings and shoot with the reticle canted, then you will have much bigger errors down range.
Let me see if I get this straight...
If I figure out that I hold my gun 5 degrees off, not perfectly level, I should mount my scope that way?
Serious questions ... How do I figure out that I am always holding the gun that way? ... how do I figure out long shots when I am resring the rifle on a leveled surface?
If I figure out that I hold my gun 5 degrees off, not perfectly level, I should mount my scope that way?
Serious questions ... How do I figure out that I am always holding the gun that way? ... how do I figure out long shots when I am resring the rifle on a leveled surface?
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Just hold your gun straight?
Anyone have advices on 30mm weaver scope rings? I need a nice set at reasonable price.I have to wait till the scope get here and figure out my ring height,then ill buy. It been a shitty week 4 me, finally have some time off. From what I understand cheap scope rings sometime don't line up correctly ,and it will damage the scope unless I use lapping and alliment kit .
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lol by using one of those scope levels mounted to the tube of your scope that you previously stated that you didnāt know what people were using them for. Itās not just for set-up. It actually lives on the scope so you know youāre holding the rifle level. Extremely useful for 500+yd shots.
One option is to avoid cheap scope rings. Even if you lap them, who knows if other parts will hold up? And do you already have a precision milled 30mm steel rod for lapping?
What kind of ring mounting option do you have? Are you looking at Weaver brand rings, or are you saying that your rifle has Weaver pattern rails?
Almost nobody laps scope rings these days, now that we have more precisely made rings. You donāt even need expensive rings. Just avoid cheap ones.
Leupold Mk4 or Backcountry scope rings seem like good value, that I would trust.
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Do you think they've improved since 2022, or more that your first hand experience has been better than their previous reviews?
I've played with a lot of Vortex (mainly Crossfires) and a few Leupold VX3s.... wondering if I should venture into Athlon to try something new...and that IS a nice sale on the Ares MPVO on EuroOptic...
My first post was based on reviews.
But after more reading and speaking with peopleI decided to order one.
Eye relief is fine, it is actually really good. But this is one of those things that great for some is horrible for others.
The last part that really sold me on Athlon was looking through the glass and having one side by side with a Razor Gen 2, where the Razor owner even said the Athlon glass looked better.
Also, keep in mind I was talking about LPVO. Too many people always say LPVO have a terrible eye box past 6x. I don't own any LPVO with greater than 6x mag, but I did buy one Athlon LPVO a few weeks ago. The 6x is perfectly fine.
I am sold on Athlon. If I can find a good torture video (haven't looked), I might start buying all Athlon.
If anyone wants to look through one, send me a message.
Weaver pattern rails,ill check out them leupold rings
Weaver pattern rails,ill check out them leupold rings
Itās definitely weaver and not picatinny? I havenāt seen any rifles with weaver mounts in a long time. Picatinny looks very similar, but there are differences. There are far more rifles with picatinny these days.
The backcountry Leupold rings also offers some direct mount options to put the rings directly on the action and get rid of any rails. It eliminates being able to easily swap optics though.
It weaver(it an old steven 200rifle,cheaper version of savage 10), I tried to put a set of picatinny ring on it one time, don't work.
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don't you own any bipod to set on that rail in front? you do overcomplicate it all quite a bit, to be honest.
when you will start to torque it down - set it on lower rings, adjust for the reticle to be vertical, not for the visual horizontality of the top dial cover.
it helps if you point it at something vertical - like a pole or a house wall.
then start to torque lightly by hand first, one side then opposite side and check for reticle not to shift. after you diud it by hand - use the torque wrench, but also differ one side to another, so scope tube would not cringe from vertical.
as with everything else in life - if you want to get it done well - do it yourself.
Brah, you need all them mill dots and Christmas tree Hash marks go range find and hold overs. Lol
Im a 30/30 reticle type
My dad taught me about subtension of the reticles and how to use them.
Im not for busy reticlea
Busiest reticle I have is the Sightron 1/4ā dot 2moa set up.
