New Staccato offering that accepts Glock magazines

[mcshooter]

Found a Staccato for glock fan boys


View: https://youtu.be/EDJK-VEaAjY?si=uFwvBEuj2i3KLHzh

 

[paul73]

so, you will buy a $4k gun in order to save on magazines, that was the idea?

 

[gerrycaruso]

Not that I'd buy one but is it even available in this shithole state?

 

[CrackPot]

Not that I'd buy one but is it even available in this shithole state?

Legal to own. The only current production gun from Staccato on any roster is the C2 (small double stack carry gun). Unless they get it on the roster, you will have to find one through a private party transfer

 

[M1911]

Found a Staccato for glock fan boys


View: https://youtu.be/EDJK-VEaAjY?si=uFwvBEuj2i3KLHzh

It's actually a good idea. The 2011 magazines were designed for double-stack 45 ACP and are longer than necessary for 9mm. Consequently, the grip circumference of a 2011 is large. Also, the magazines are expensive as heck, often require tuning, etc. So a more common mag, designed from the start for 9mm, is a better choice.

Now whether Staccato is the right company to buy from is a different question...

 

[M1911]

so, you will buy a $4k gun in order to save on magazines, that was the idea?

No, it's more about a smaller grip circumference and more reliable magazines than the cost of magazines.

 

[Golddiggie]

It's actually a good idea. The 2011 magazines were designed for double-stack 45 ACP and are longer than necessary for 9mm. Consequently, the grip circumference of a 2011 is large. Also, the magazines are expensive as heck, often require tuning, etc. So a more common mag, designed from the start for 9mm, is a better choice.

Now whether Staccato is the right company to buy from is a different question...

From everything I've heard, read, etc. the tuning issues was during the early production of things before they became Staccato. AFAIK, the Staccato magazines made over the past several years, as well as many of the third party mags produced, don't have those early issues. The current Staccato (9mm) magazines were designed to be for 9mm.

The HD lineup from Staccato will accept grock pattern magazines, as well as ones made from metal with the same pattern. I'd rather get all metal magazines than plastic ones.

Also, the HD guns are not $4k. They run low to mid (probably to upper if you tweak them enough) $2k range. In line with a good number of other 2011 style pistols out there. Sure, there are some lower cost ones, but I'm not sure how much I would trust those. The Staccato guys at Shot Show (arfcom news sessions) also mentioned NO MIM parts used. IMO, that's not a minor item. Many of the other 2011 style pistols in the same price range DO use MIM parts. Sure, MIM is better now than even five years ago, but I still wouldn't trust it for something I'd be looking to carry.

I'll be looking at the 4.5" version both when they're actually available to purchase and I have the funds to get one. Sounded like they were going to offer with the DLC coating on steel parts, like their other models. I WILL be looking to get the steel frame section over aluminum.

 

[mcshooter]

From everything I've heard, read, etc. the tuning issues was during the early production of things before they became Staccato. AFAIK, the Staccato magazines made over the past several years, as well as many of the third party mags produced, don't have those early issues. The current Staccato (9mm) magazines were designed to be for 9mm.

The HD lineup from Staccato will accept grock pattern magazines, as well as ones made from metal with the same pattern. I'd rather get all metal magazines than plastic ones.

Also, the HD guns are not $4k. They run low to mid (probably to upper if you tweak them enough) $2 range. In line with a good number of other 2011 style pistols out there. Sure, there are some lower cost ones, but I'm not sure how much I would trust those. The Staccato guys at Shot Show (arfcom news sessions) also mentioned NO MIM parts used. IMO, that's not a minor item. Many of the other 2011 style pistols in the same price range DO use MIM parts. Sure, MIM is better now than even five years ago, but I still wouldn't trust it for something I'd be looking to carry.

I'll be looking at the 4.5" version both when they're actually available to purchase and I have the funds to get one. Sounded like they were going to offer with the DLC coating on steel parts, like their other models. I WILL be looking to get the steel frame section over aluminum.

Id gladly buy it right now, for 2 dollars

 

[Golddiggie]

Corrected that..

I do like the ambi, and shifted, slide release on the HD. Being able to flip the magazine release for use by wrong handed people is zero interest for me. There are some other changes the made over their other models reflected in the HD. Good to see they listened to people on that side of things. Also a bit glad I didn't pick up a Staccato P when I was thinking about it. Now I'll just wait for some reviews to come out before making a final decision. I'll also want to see what the metal magazines are selling for.

 

[mcshooter]

Corrected that..

I do like the ambi, and shifted, slide release on the HD. Being able to flip the magazine release for use by wrong handed people is zero interest for me. There are some other changes the made over their other models reflected in the HD. Good to see they listened to people on that side of things. Also a bit glad I didn't pick up a Staccato P when I was thinking about it. Now I'll just wait for some reviews to come out before making a final decision. I'll also want to see what the metal magazines are selling for.

The DWX also is intriguing

 

[M1911]

From everything I've heard, read, etc. the tuning issues was during the early production of things before they became Staccato. AFAIK, the Staccato magazines made over the past several years, as well as many of the third party mags produced, don't have those early issues.

I doubt that.

First, 2011 guns from multiple manufacturers have required magazine tuning for a very long time. Mag tuning is a 2011 thing, not just a STI thing. Second, as 2011s go, STI did not have a good reputation. So much so that they had to change their name to Staccato. I seriously doubt that Staccato has found some secret sauce to make better 2011 magazines than all the other 2011 manufacturers. Third, they were STI for a long time. It wasn’t like they were STI for just a little while before the name change. STI was started in the early 1990s and didn’t change their name until 2020. So they were building questionable guns for a very long time.

 

[mcshooter]

I doubt that.

First, 2011 guns from multiple manufacturers have required magazine tuning for a very long time. Mag tuning is a 2011 thing, not just a STI thing. Second, as 2011s go, STI did not have a good reputation. So much so that they had to change their name to Staccato. I seriously doubt that Staccato has found some secret sauce to make better 2011 magazines than all the other 2011 manufacturers. Third, they were STI for a long time. It wasn’t like they were STI for just a little while before the name change. STI was started in the early 1990s and didn’t change their name until 2020. So they were building questionable guns for a very long time.

I have tried some new staccato mags, out of the box

They work pretty good surprisingly, with all the comments and perspectives that they need to be tuned. Haven't had to tune the ones that came with the new C2 I got a few years back

 

[mcshooter]

Cue @Reptile and his business plan. It now extends to the 2011 market

 

[silversquirrel]

Anyone know if the grip angle has changed to become more glocky vs 1911ish?
I think the Platypus has more of a glock grip angle iirc.

 

[Golddiggie]

Anyone know if the grip angle has changed to become more glocky vs 1911ish?
I think the Platypus has more of a glock grip angle iirc.

From what I recall, it retains the nice 1911 grip angle. Not the shitty grock angle.

BTW, more changes than the supposed gen 6 grock.

 

[xtry51]

Gucci handguns are gay unless you're competing at a high level in some esoteric pistol class and need to play the game to win.

 

[Dench]

so, you will buy a $4k gun in order to save on magazines, that was the idea?

I see your point but glock pistol mags and the glock pmags are pretty solid.

 

[M1911]

I see your point but glock pistol mags and the glock pmags are pretty solid.

I believe Staccato is shipping with a metal body mag built in the Glock pattern. I don’t recall who is building the mags for them. But I agree with your point.

 

[Broc Tuah]

so, you will buy a $4k gun in order to save on magazines, that was the idea?

BRUH! GLOCK KILLA!

Actually, Glock mags are a good idea. They are readily available. No need to wait for them to be in stock or wait weeks for shipping. Unless you want to treat mags as a big revenue source (example: SIG).

 

[mcshooter]

BRUH! GLOCK KILLA!

Actually, Glock mags are a good idea. They are readily available. No need to wait for them to be in stock or wait weeks for shipping. Unless you want to treat mags as a big revenue source (example: SIG).

Ya have to admit though

I bet the stock trigger on the staccato is way better than that of a stock glock

 

[Broc Tuah]

Ya have to admit though

I bet the stock trigger on the staccato is way better than that of a stock glock

For something like a $3,500 difference, I would hope so.

 

[bostonelli]

Honestly the staccato mags work better than Mbx and equally as good as atlas mags.

 

[Varmint]

so, you will buy a $4k gun in order to save on magazines, that was the idea?

No it’s so we can use our preban Glock mags, in the comfort of our homes.

 

[chris_1001]

I doubt that.

First, 2011 guns from multiple manufacturers have required magazine tuning for a very long time. Mag tuning is a 2011 thing, not just a STI thing. Second, as 2011s go, STI did not have a good reputation. So much so that they had to change their name to Staccato. I seriously doubt that Staccato has found some secret sauce to make better 2011 magazines than all the other 2011 manufacturers. Third, they were STI for a long time. It wasn’t like they were STI for just a little while before the name change. STI was started in the early 1990s and didn’t change their name until 2020. So they were building questionable guns for a very long time.

My staccato p with stock mags has been 100% reliable

And I did not expect that.

About 2500 rounds so far

 

[Golddiggie]

I believe Staccato is shipping with a metal body mag built in the Glock pattern. I don’t recall who is building the mags for them. But I agree with your point.

Mec-Gar is making the mags.

 

[M1911]

Mec-Gar is making the mags.

That's a good company.

 

[eisenhow]

I doubt that.

First, 2011 guns from multiple manufacturers have required magazine tuning for a very long time. Mag tuning is a 2011 thing, not just a STI thing. Second, as 2011s go, STI did not have a good reputation. So much so that they had to change their name to Staccato. I seriously doubt that Staccato has found some secret sauce to make better 2011 magazines than all the other 2011 manufacturers. Third, they were STI for a long time. It wasn’t like they were STI for just a little while before the name change. STI was started in the early 1990s and didn’t change their name until 2020. So they were building questionable guns for a very long time.

A lot of the tuning is to cram as many rounds into the mag as humanly possible and get it to run reliably. Which follower do you think will be more reliable?

STI factory follower:



TTI follower to maximize capacity: