NFA Items - Picture thread

[JRT]

I submitted my first form 1 on Friday and was reading (and drooling) through this thread while I wait.
But now I’m concerned mine will get rejected/held up since I left the “description” field blank? Many of the guides I read online said to leave it blank.
I’m SBRing a Nordic Components 9.25 22lr upper with a Anderson lower. The lower says AM-15 Multi Cal. Should I have included that info in the description?

I don’t leave the description field blank, I also can’t confirm its an issue if you do. The guide I always use says to enter a description. You can use ask the experts on the ATF website but know this may make it an issue and they will disapprove. You are so early in the process I would say use ask the experts, worst case they disapprove and you can apply again immediately. The sidebar at r/NFA has a how to file an eForm that is really good. The sidebar is a wealth of information.

 

[Lxpony]

Box 4a should be "Anderson manufacturing "

Box 4h should be " short barrel rifle"

 

[Katana88]

I have always left 4h ("Additional Description") blank and have never had an application rejected.

 

[Lxpony]

Your upper doesn't matter. It's all about the lower and the caliber you want to register.

 

[DW357]

Your upper doesn't matter. It's all about the lower and the caliber you want to register.

Yup. Makes sense. What a bonehead.

 

[JRT]

Crap. So it seems like I’ll have to wait for official rejection from ATF then reapply and repay the $200 and wait for refund.

Just ask them to reject it in ask the experts, it will be done tomorrow. I was confused by your original question.

 

[DW357]

Just ask them to reject it in ask the experts, it will be done tomorrow. I was confused by your original question.

Roger that. Thanks I’ll do that.

 

[Supermoto]

You can ask them fix the mistake. I put the wrong address for the CLEO, they moved the police dept. ATF corrected it for me promptly. But this one might be significant enough to warrant a resubmit

 

[Katana88]

Yes, I'd get that submission cancelled and start over. I have had the ATF request a photo of the lower, to verify the manufacturer, model, and SN. Obviously, your initial submission would not pass.

 

[dans]

I thought this was a picture thread.

 

[soam]

I thought this was a picture thread.

Here's a picture! Also, bonus moving picture.




View: https://youtu.be/Ce-VFozrktA

 

[LukeIronSight]

I submitted my first form 1 on Friday and was reading (and drooling) through this thread while I wait.
But now I’m concerned mine will get rejected/held up since I left the “description” field blank? Many of the guides I read online said to leave it blank.
I’m SBRing a Nordic Components 9.25 22lr upper with a Anderson lower. The lower says AM-15 Multi Cal. Should I have included that info in the description?

You will definitely not be approved due to the empty field. But you won’t be rejected. Just wait for communication on the netter and you will have to send back the form they will send you completed. You won’t lose your place in line.
Btw Why did you leave the field empty??

 

[DW357]

You will definitely not be approved due to the empty field. But you won’t be rejected. Just wait for communication on the netter and you will have to send back the form they will send you completed. You won’t lose your place in line.
Btw Why did you leave the field empty??

Many of the guides I read online said it’s not a critical field and many (including post 1,053 above) reported getting approved with nothing added to box 4h. But I also read that you should write your name, city and state in that box? Basically what’s going to be engraved should be what’s in box 4h.

 

[Supermoto]

4H is blank on mine. no issue with getting it approved

 

[LuvDog]

All of my Forms left field 4H blank and they were all approved

 

[soam]

Like so many other things ATF, it sounds like the answer is "it depends on the day".

Different examiners, different guidance from supervisors, or whether there's a full moon could all affect whether having 4H blank matters.

 

[DW357]

4H is blank on mine. no issue with getting it approved

All of my Forms left field 4H blank and they were all approved

Okay I knew I wasn't crazy lol.

 

[bigblue]

None of my seven form 1's have section 4h filled out.

 

[DW357]

None of my seven form 1's have section 4h filled out.

Good to know, thanks!

 

[Picton]

So I'm jumping into this NFA thing pretty soon, and I'm curious: most of y'all just print out and hand-jam the paperwork? Then send a copy to your CoP? Or do the cool kids do all this electronically? And if so, how? I can't seem to type into the fields in the downloaded Form 1

 

[ScottS]

So I'm jumping into this NFA thing pretty soon, and I'm curious: most of y'all just print out and hand-jam the paperwork? Then send a copy to your CoP? Or do the cool kids do all this electronically? And if so, how? I can't seem to type into the fields in the downloaded Form 1

I assume you're talking about filing an ATF Form 1. The easiest and fastest way is to eFile the form. Timelines are 6-9 months (paper form) vs 20-30 days (eFile).

Either way, you'll need two copies of passport photos and fingerprint cards. You can do both the photos and fingerprint cards yourself, or you can have someone else do them for you.

At the time of submittal of the Form 1, either electronically or by paper, you'll send a "CLEO copy" to your CLEO, which is defined as: "The chief law enforcement officer is considered to be the Chief of Police; the Sheriff; the Head of the State Police, or a State or local district attorney or prosecutor." This is notification only, not approval. I send all mine to the Director of the State Police, who I'm sure looks at them, thinks "WTF" and shitcans them.

There's a complete guide for electronic filing here.

 

[LuvDog]

How are you doing finger print cards yourself?

 

[ScottS]

How are you doing finger print cards yourself?

Ordering the fingerprints from ATF (free), an ink pad from Amazon, and...doing them myself. Ain't rocket science.

If you want to get really fancy, eslincers makes a complete kit for short money. Has a nice holder and everything. Video how-to on the site, if you have any questions.

 

[67ray]

Can we get back to pictures now? Stop ruining the thread with your idle chatter

 

[ScottS]

Can we get back to pictures now? Stop ruining the thread with your idle chatter

Done.

Glock-compatible SBR with Form 1 Can and Form 1 Can on my M&P9



Rimfire Can family picture:

 

[bigblue]

Other than the misplaced S&W fetish, very nice.

 

[Cap'n Mike]

My go to SBR and my dedicated 22lr training upper.
i would be lying if I didn’t say my training gun is the most fun to shoot.

 

[amm5061]

My go to SBR and my dedicated 22lr training upper.
i would be lying if I didn’t say my training gun is the most fun to shoot.View attachment 358699View attachment 358698

I have that same LWRCI UCIW stock on mine. Highly recommend!

Here she is in her previous configuration. I've made a few changes since, but I don't have new pictures.

 

[LuvDog]

My go to SBR and my dedicated 22lr training upper.
i would be lying if I didn’t say my training gun is the most fun to shoot.

What mags do you run for the 22lr? I'm trying to find ones that feed reliably. Some of my BD mags hang up and don't feed.

 

[soam]

What mags do you run for the 22lr? I'm trying to find ones that feed reliably. Some of my BD mags hang up and don't feed.

Ditto on this question. It looks like the magazine for an M&P 15-22. Can you run those in a standard AR lower?

Ooh, maybe using one of these?

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