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NFA SBR engraving in Mass
- Thread starter Da_lucche
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barrel is acceptable for the engraving.
conspicuous placement is referencing the physical act of the engraving, not the location. the locations are laid out after that.
"The serial number must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed, and must not duplicate any serial number placed by you on any other firearm."
There is a ton of interweb myth surrounding the placement of NFA engraving because most people can't ****ing read. This statement covers everything you need to know: Do not add any unnecessary interpretation to it.
There is a ton of interweb myth surrounding the placement of NFA engraving because most people can't ****ing read. This statement covers everything you need to know: Do not add any unnecessary interpretation to it.
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SJan
NES Member
ATF 5300.4 in 27 CFR 479.102 (page 92) describes what is necessary to engrave on a SBR or SBS when one is manufacturing. This is not necessary if you purchase one that is already manufactured as it will have been done for you.
1) On the Frame or Receiver the Serial number;
2) on the frame, receiver, or barrel the following additional information;
A)The model;
B)The caliber or gage;
C)Your name or name of the Trust in the case of a Trust (no abbreviations are permitted for the Trust name);
D)The city and state (you can abbreviate the state with the official 2 digit state code)
The above mentioned information must be engraved, casted, stamped (impressing) or otherwise conspicuously placed or caused to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size of the Serial number shall be no smaller than 1/16 inch.
Most often this is all you need to add. On 'multi cal' AR lowers, if the barrel has caliber markings, and most do, that is all that is needed
1) On the Frame or Receiver the Serial number;
2) on the frame, receiver, or barrel the following additional information;
A)The model;
B)The caliber or gage;
C)Your name or name of the Trust in the case of a Trust (no abbreviations are permitted for the Trust name);
D)The city and state (you can abbreviate the state with the official 2 digit state code)
The above mentioned information must be engraved, casted, stamped (impressing) or otherwise conspicuously placed or caused to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size of the Serial number shall be no smaller than 1/16 inch.
Most often this is all you need to add. On 'multi cal' AR lowers, if the barrel has caliber markings, and most do, that is all that is needed
Hey Guys... does anyone know of another place to get engraving done besides Jack's? I only have time during the weekends to do this and they're only open M-F. And it looks like Integrity Laser in Merrimack no longer does engraving.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Stryker
NES Member
I believe GNW does it (Woburn)- I was going to pop off an email to them as well to see about pricing - if you contact them let me know what you hear.
http://www.gnwlaser.com/
http://www.gnwlaser.com/
Stryker
NES Member
So...I need to get my lower engraved as well as I will be putting my first SBR together shortly
Looking through this thread and others, and thinking about consolidating everything into a list - here is what I see as options for engraving
What am I missing and what can we add to this list? Thanks in advance. Please edit and add as necessary
Jack's Machine Shop
Hanson, MA
http://www.jacksmachine.com/laser-marking-engraving.html
$65
7am - 5pm Monday - Friday
> Responsive, highly recommended, will do while you wait but call ahead
GNW Laser
Woburn, MA
http://www.gnwlaser.com/laser_service/laser_service.html
Cost? $30-$40
Hours?
>A couple of threads mentions they are good, but per above maybe some recent issues (?)
Nltor Laser
Southwick, MA
http://www.nitorlaser.com/index.php?page=firearms
$20? (in another thread)
Hours?
> In another thread mentioned easy to work with and quality work
Integrity Laser
Nashua, NH
http://ilasernh.com/
$90?
Hours?
> Mentioned as good quality work but expensive - since they are closest to me, I have tried to contact them for past two weeks with no response
Looking through this thread and others, and thinking about consolidating everything into a list - here is what I see as options for engraving
What am I missing and what can we add to this list? Thanks in advance. Please edit and add as necessary
Jack's Machine Shop
Hanson, MA
http://www.jacksmachine.com/laser-marking-engraving.html
$65
7am - 5pm Monday - Friday
> Responsive, highly recommended, will do while you wait but call ahead
GNW Laser
Woburn, MA
http://www.gnwlaser.com/laser_service/laser_service.html
Cost? $30-$40
Hours?
>A couple of threads mentions they are good, but per above maybe some recent issues (?)
Nltor Laser
Southwick, MA
http://www.nitorlaser.com/index.php?page=firearms
$20? (in another thread)
Hours?
> In another thread mentioned easy to work with and quality work
Integrity Laser
Nashua, NH
http://ilasernh.com/
$90?
Hours?
> Mentioned as good quality work but expensive - since they are closest to me, I have tried to contact them for past two weeks with no response
Sorry to hear about Intergity Laser, although he was getting pretty pricey.
Wicked Weaponry in Hooksett also does NFA engraving.
I gave up on looking for a local place, and just sent my last two SBR's and Form 1 cans to Tar Heel State Firearms. They're fast, cheap, and good. I just couldn't find that hat-trick locally.
Wicked Weaponry in Hooksett also does NFA engraving.
I gave up on looking for a local place, and just sent my last two SBR's and Form 1 cans to Tar Heel State Firearms. They're fast, cheap, and good. I just couldn't find that hat-trick locally.
dcmdon
NES Member
That is a complete non-issue if the customer waits with the firearm.
If they were letting people drop off, its a legitimate issue.
By the way. If you don't care how it looks in most cases you can use a standard impact engraver. I confirmed this with an ATF inspector. Even the cheapest engraver makes a sufficiently deep dot in aluminum.
http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-290-05...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
Don
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exo
NES Member
Yeah, definitely only if you don't care how it looks. I tried one of those on some scrap aluminum first, and I couldn't get it to look like anything but crap. Others may have better luck.
Between the poor look and my inability to measure the depth, I ended up paying professionals to have my stuff engraved.
If anyone needs engraving services- I think I can be of service. Please PM me and I'll follow up with you directly.
In order to put some time perspective into all of this, I put 2 lowers and 4 suppressor tubes into the mail on Saturday, Mar 26, and they shipped back to me today, 29 Mar. I'll have them in my hands Thursday, 31 Mar. That kind of turn-around puts a whole new light on how long I want to wait for a local engraver to get to my stuff.
Stryker
NES Member
That's pretty impressive - how did you send them? Normal mail?
Sorry, I use the phrase "mail" pretty generically. FedEx.
