Don't know and don't care.What was the penalty for a small amount of weed back in the day? What is the penalty for illegal importing a standard cap magazine under the new law?
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Don't know and don't care.What was the penalty for a small amount of weed back in the day? What is the penalty for illegal importing a standard cap magazine under the new law?
The bad thing happened somewhere it isn't bad. Then it reduces the impact to 1 party maybe.
Regardless it's nearly unenforceable, unless the people involved in this "heinous crime" are really, really stupid.![]()
That's true. But, I don't think they even care about that. They have banned carry and shut down retail for old standard cap mags. Mission accomplished for them.There is no shortage of stupid people, and even more who cannot STFU, they just gotta tell someone something.
I believe it will be.Is it illegal to leave a standard capacity magazine (unloaded) unsecured somewhere?
The law only speaks to traveling “to or from” so implying travel.Is it illegal to leave a standard capacity magazine (unloaded) unsecured somewhere?
Post 13-sep-1994, yes, illegalIs it illegal to leave a standard capacity magazine (unloaded) unsecured somewhere?
The law only speaks to traveling “to or from” so implying travel.
I think it doesn’t matter where you leave it on your private property but everything in Ma has the possibility of being illegal.
Would this be a way to overwhelm the system and turn their databases into a giant haystack? Register blocks of aluminum as AR's, register metal tubes as sten guns, register blocks of plastic as p-80's? Hundreds of guys doing hundreds a week
And that won't even allow a LEO to practice on his/her own time at such clubs. However, MA police have gone PC and only use the FBI Q target for qualifications since at least 2000. Those targets are shaped like a milk bottle. So there will be no conflict with the law.Only the carve outs for law enforcement exist.
122B
(c) The club shall:
(i) not permit shooting at targets that depict human figures, human effigies, human silhouettes or any human images thereof, except by public safety personnel performing in line with their official duties;
I think anyone considering violating this law SHOULD care.Don't know and don't care.
Have two standard mags?What was the penalty for a small amount of weed back in the day? What is the penalty for illegal importing a standard cap magazine under the new law?
(d) Whoever violates this section shall be punished, for a first offense, by a fine of not less than $1,000 nor more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for not less than 1 year nor more than 10 years, or by both such fine and imprisonment, and for a second offense, by a fine of not less than $5,000 nor more than $15,000 or by imprisonment for not less than 5 years nor more than 15 years, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
(e) This section shall not apply to transfer or possession by:
(i) a qualified law enforcement officer or a qualified retired law enforcement officer, as defined in the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act of 2004, 18 U.S.C. sections 926B and 926C, respectively, as amended;
(ii) a federal, state or local law enforcement agency; or
(iii) a federally licensed manufacturer solely for sale or transfer in another state or for export.
Storage is cheap and you pay for it anyhow so they couldn't possibly GAS.Would this be a way to overwhelm the system and turn their databases into a giant haystack? Register blocks of aluminum as AR's, register metal tubes as sten guns, register blocks of plastic as p-80's? Hundreds of guys doing hundreds a week
Have two standard mags?
5 year minimum
And law enforcement are exempt from 131m so they can personally own, carry and transfer ASF and LCFD without a care in the world.
Not that it matters, but I was talking about transferring joints. Under this new gun law, the possession of the grandfathered "joints" is legal.So first offense is a misdemeanor but the second offense is a felony. A felony conviction would be life changing, even if you didn't serve any jail time. In contrast, I believe most of the penalties for simple possession of a small amount of marijuana were either civil or misdemeanors.
Look at the maximum sentenceSo first offense is a misdemeanor but the second offense is a felony. A felony conviction would be life changing, even if you didn't serve any jail time. In contrast, I believe most of the penalties for simple possession of a small amount of marijuana were either civil or misdemeanors.
Have two standard mags?
5 year minimum
And law enforcement are exempt from 131m so they can personally own, carry and transfer ASF and LCFD without a care in the world.
Oh, I misread that. It looks to me that the first offense is actually a felony (punishable by up to 10 years in prison).Look at the maximum sentence
MisdaFelony.
No mo guns fa yah...
Oh, and each magazine is an offense.
So if you have two might as well buy a pallet.
Right, but that is for a Club LTC if I remember correctly. I honestly haven’t had time to find and read through the existing lawOnly the carve outs for law enforcement exist.
122B
(c) The club shall:
(i) not permit shooting at targets that depict human figures, human effigies, human silhouettes or any human images thereof, except by public safety personnel performing in line with their official duties;
I think anyone considering violating this law SHOULD care.
Back in the day, in many jurisdictions, I believe that possession of a small amount of marijuana was a civil infraction that wasn't arrestable. I suspect in this new law that illegally importing a standard capacity magazine into MA will be a felony. As you know, a felony conviction makes someone a federally prohibited person.
Anyone considering violating a law should have a very good understanding of what they are risking. It's easy to say "no one will ever know" or "it will be unenforceable". Maybe that's true. Maybe it's not. But it sure as hell would suck to be the test case.
No. It is up to 10 years for a post-ban standard cap mag. While I don't think you would get that much time, either way it would be a felony conviction and lifetime prohibition.I think every infraction, or damn near, results in the same possible sentence up to 2-1/2 years. Shocking for sure.
Right, but that is for a Club LTC if I remember correctly. I honestly haven’t had time to find and read through the existing law
Right, I get that. As far as I know, there is only one such licensed club in the state at this time.Yes, you are correct in that licensed clubs (not many out there) have that restriction so to answer your original question those clubs that have a LTC for LCFD and ASFs cannot use humanoid targets according to 122B of 140.
Let’s say I show up to my club and bring a human silhouette steel target and then take it down to go home. No problem. This goes for an incorporated club as well without a license to store ammo, lcfds, and guns.
Yes, but the person you handed it over to cannot bring it back into MA. 131M says you cannot import into the Commonwealth a large capacity feeding device. Once it leaves, it is gone.
I think anyone considering violating this law SHOULD care.
Back in the day, in many jurisdictions, I believe that possession of a small amount of marijuana was a civil infraction that wasn't arrestable. I suspect in this new law that illegally importing a standard capacity magazine into MA will be a felony. As you know, a felony conviction makes someone a federally prohibited person.
Anyone considering violating a law should have a very good understanding of what they are risking. It's easy to say "no one will ever know" or "it will be unenforceable". Maybe that's true. Maybe it's not. But it sure as hell would suck to be the test case.
You just mentioned “license” in that original question. The one license covers ammo, lcfd, and large capacity firearms. The use of human silhouettes according to the new law for such a club is illegal.Right, I get that. As far as I know, there is only one such licensed club in the state at this time.
My original question was whether the new wording regarding selling ammo would make clubs get a license. Would the state then start using ‘license’ (albeit an ammo seller’s license) as a way to enforse the humanoid target law.
If this state has its way a parking ticket will have a 2-1/2 maximum in order to disenfranchise as many people as possible.I think every infraction, or damn near, results in the same possible sentence up to 2-1/2 years. Shocking for sure.
I used to joke that given some time, MA will make jaywalking a felony. I'm convinced that any new law they create will be a felony, just to screw the maximum number of people.I think every infraction, or damn near, results in the same possible sentence up to 2-1/2 years. Shocking for sure.
If this state has its way a parking ticket will have a 2-1/2 maximum in order to disenfranchise as many people as possible.
I used to joke that given some time, MA will make jaywalking a felony. I'm convinced that any new law they create will be a felony, just to screw the maximum number of people.