I have the CMD. Bought from FS a couple of months ago. Spent casing test indicates it's from the same mid-Jan batch. No signs of rust yet, including under the grip panels. I keep my gun fairly well oiled and clean with CLP though. Other than the front sight breaking off (twice), I haven't had any major problems with this gun. Knock on wood.
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Ruger SR1911 Commander
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QC for process inspections is usually different people than final product inspection.
My guess is that those spots simply do not show up until a few weeks to months after shipping, and QC has no procedure for accelerating and inspecting future rust through.
What this points to I think, is a failure in the Manufacturing process. Somehow a batch of frames missed a passivising step or were not in the bath long enough or the solution was contaminated or not checked and changed on schedule.
So many things can go wrong that have nothing to do with QC. Unless you want them inspecting every work station every hour you are going to get things like this happening. With that kind of QC you can probably double the cost of your new SIG.
Fact is, people eff up. Even people employed by SIG.
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Um, please make sure you are calling me anything other than "sig fan boy". (That wasn't me). Yes, I am a fan boy but I don't come on here bashing others people's stuff just cause I like something different. I will on the other hand call out douche bags willing to derail whole threads with their own self importance ( referencing other thread here )
The best thing about a rusty Ruger is the same thing about a rust S&W..... Send it back and they fix it no questions asked. Yes, manufacturing mistakes happen o matter who made it at least buy from one that will take care of you in the unlikely event something does go wrong.
Life's short, guns are expensive.... Have fun and ignore Internet commando ninjas
ntomsw
Banned
Ruger SR1911 Commander **UPDATE**check your guns for rust**
I emailed them this morning since they are closed. Will call Monday morning. I'm sure they'll do the right thing and take of this. It seems to have spread a bit more. Will keep you guys updated.
I emailed them this morning since they are closed. Will call Monday morning. I'm sure they'll do the right thing and take of this. It seems to have spread a bit more. Will keep you guys updated.
ntomsw
Banned
You should ask how many cases of this they have had, and if they know what is at the root of this problem.
I know they won't tell you, but I am just curious.
At first I wasn't sure if it was the gun or me (the way I was storing it), but clearly not this many people are storing their guns improperly.
If I find out that it's nothing but poor QC or something, I'm not buying another Ruger. Really wish we could post production dates on all the NES members with affected firearms to see the spread. If it's all over the place, shame on them.
fencer
NES Member
I am not a big fan of Ruger, but I wouldn't swear them off due to this one issue. I have a lot of respect for them as a company.
The market wanted an affordable, reliable 1911 and they did a great job at filling that niche.
This wasn't just pinned to the 1911s, turns out there were a few models affected. If it was a bad batch of steel, then it's all good. But with other firearms out there that I'd buy over a Ruger I would most likely switch.
warwickben
bubba Kalashnikov
Ruger SR1911 Commander **UPDATE**check your guns for rust**
Pulling this out of my ass I don't really think its a qc thing per-say .
Stainless shouldn't rust like this. Some alloys yeah can rust . So bad mix and they got half ass test results.
The finish on these looks to me a satin finish . One way to do this is with a sand blasting .
At my work we have a sand blaster for clean and dirty stuff . Most sand blaster reuse the powder over and over till it breaks down . And there's many typed of media you can use .
It could be as simple as the wrong type and its being embedded and rust later. Or some one sand blasted it pig iron etc dust was embedded in the surface .
Or ruger just sucks
Buy Remington buy often ......
Pulling this out of my ass I don't really think its a qc thing per-say .
Stainless shouldn't rust like this. Some alloys yeah can rust . So bad mix and they got half ass test results.
The finish on these looks to me a satin finish . One way to do this is with a sand blasting .
At my work we have a sand blaster for clean and dirty stuff . Most sand blaster reuse the powder over and over till it breaks down . And there's many typed of media you can use .
It could be as simple as the wrong type and its being embedded and rust later. Or some one sand blasted it pig iron etc dust was embedded in the surface .
Or ruger just sucks
Buy Remington buy often ......
ntomsw
Banned
Remington takes Gov pay outs to stay in NY.
Remington can **** themselves and go bankrupt.
I own Rugers now, and I will own Rugers in the future. Their guns are tanks. A couple of guns have rust issues, and all the ****ing day ladies start shitting their pants.
My best friend in Michigan owns about 30 Rugers, and has had no issues at all. He owns mostly their SA revolvers, but still.
Remington can **** themselves and go bankrupt.
I own Rugers now, and I will own Rugers in the future. Their guns are tanks. A couple of guns have rust issues, and all the ****ing day ladies start shitting their pants.
My best friend in Michigan owns about 30 Rugers, and has had no issues at all. He owns mostly their SA revolvers, but still.
this is why I don't own a Remington 1911. But Ben can't see it this way.
I'm also not a day-lady, bitch Tom.
ntomsw
Banned
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You know I'm just busting balls.Stainless steel will rust if exposed to the elements long enough. I know one sure fire way to make any SS gun rust just clean it with your every day Brillo pad. By cleaning with a steel wool pad your embedding microscopic pieces of the pad into the SS surface and given time it will rust and your SS finish is now rusty. Stainless steel is rust resistant not rust proof , a truly SS would be so brittle as to be useless. My former employer made jet engines and we had all kinds parts made of exotic SS alloys and if they sat out side long enough they would have some amount of rust on them. I've hade several dealings with Ruger about problem with various firearms and they've always corrected the problem with little fuss
warwickben
bubba Kalashnikov
Ruger SR1911 Commander **UPDATE**check your guns for rust**
I didn't mean to imply they don't rust just they should take longer.
Hey I got my Remington before that crap happen
I didn't mean to imply they don't rust just they should take longer.
Hey I got my Remington before that crap happen
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beaker
NES Member
Re: Ruger SR1911 Commander **UPDATE**check your guns for rust**
After 9 years of working in high end aerospace machining (turbine blades) I can tell you that stainless (or stain-less as we used to say) will rust. But the rust you are seeing on these guns is from contaminated lots of material. There are inclusions that should not be there which are causing the spots. These are defective, make them replace them. Ruger would not necessarily know until they start showing up. But its a material defect just the same.
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After 9 years of working in high end aerospace machining (turbine blades) I can tell you that stainless (or stain-less as we used to say) will rust. But the rust you are seeing on these guns is from contaminated lots of material. There are inclusions that should not be there which are causing the spots. These are defective, make them replace them. Ruger would not necessarily know until they start showing up. But its a material defect just the same.
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ntomsw
Banned
I have the full size SR1911 I bought over a year ago. It hasn't shown any signs of this but I certainly hope it doesn't start to. I'll be pretty disappointed. This thread is the first I have heard about this happening to these guns. Quite a surprise.
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Have it done...
Ruger SR1911 Commander **UPDATE**check your guns for rust**
Drool.
Ruger did produce a black version for one of their distributors. She's pretty sexy. Aint she?!
Drool.
