Sununu warns of urban flight; NH to get Vermonted by New Yorkers

[dlarge]

A lot of these people are moving into their vacation houses so they already know the deal. Jobs and their kids schools kept them in the city or nearby burbs. Also many of them are on the wealthy end of the scale and at the moment quite content with online ordering their fancy pants. Yes there is the weather, lack of yoga classes and a few other things but remember the alternative is going back to the land of the deadly sniffle plague. Considering their job and their kids schooling are no longer location driven and 'home' is full of a scary disease and I think the fear will overcome the few drawbacks. Word I hear from VT is the newlanders are already meddling in town politics.

Maybe in the case of the vacation home folks, short term you could be right. But long term, no way. Moving permanently from the MA/NY/NJ metro areas to rural NH is no simple adjustment. It sure as shit wasn't for me, spending 8 years in Boston and then moving to Nottingham. I've lived in a few towns in NH and in none of them did I get the sense that uppity outsiders had any chance in changing the status quo.

 

[KBCraig]

I doubt it. There's plenty that can't be fixed about NH. The amenities they're probably used to just can't be done up here. It's too rural. There will never be a Whole Foods in every town. Or all of the shops and services they're used to.

It's not just transplants.

I live in a town of 3,500 people, the hub of a micropolitan area of maybe 8,000. We have a Shaw's and a Family Dollar. We have a liquor store, and an Aubuchon Hardware. We have Dunk's, Mickey's, and a variety of excellent local restaurants, including an outstanding microbrewery.

There's currently a new Dollar General under construction. On the community FB page, people who've never even met anyone from away were complaining: "Why can't we get a Trader Joe's?" "I want a Market Basket!" "Hashtag Whole Foods!"

I've been around enough to know that the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence. I looked for a place where the grass is truly green, and moved here.

Meanwhile the grass in Texas has been brown and crunchy for over six weeks now. That's probably the only thing I miss from there: I never had to mow after mid-June, because everything was dead.

 

[Buck F]

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Most all of us have UNREASONABLE EXPECTATIONS that newby's will have something that resembles upper brain function and reflection upon why they had to leave their last home state......at great expense........instead of acting like LOCUSTS that mindlessly consume everything then move on to the next buffet........

FIFY

 

[Coyote33]

the grass in Texas has been brown and crunchy for over six weeks now. That's probably the only thing I miss from there: I never had to mow after mid-June, because everything was dead.

Hey, we've got that here in Mass!

 

[dlarge]

It's not just transplants.

I live in a town of 3,500 people, the hub of a micropolitan area of maybe 8,000. We have a Shaw's and a Family Dollar. We have a liquor store, and an Aubuchon Hardware. We have Dunk's, Mickey's, and a variety of excellent local restaurants, including an outstanding microbrewery.

There's currently a new Dollar General under construction. On the community FB page, people who've never even met anyone from away were complaining: "Why can't we get a Trader Joe's?" "I want a Market Basket!" "Hashtag Whole Foods!"

I've been around enough to know that the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence. I looked for a place where the grass is truly green, and moved here.

Meanwhile the grass in Texas has been brown and crunchy for over six weeks now. That's probably the only thing I miss from there: I never had to mow after mid-June, because everything was dead.

As a comparison, I grew up in Knoxville, TN. Bunch of rednecks in the woods, right? Every time I go back, which is about once a year, I'm blown away with the growth. New shopping centers, new restaurants, basically every amenity you could imagine. Rural roads a year ago are highways. There's nothing in NH that I couldn't find there. But plenty the other way around. And it's one relatively small southern town.

New England just doesn't grow like that. The land isn't there. The infrastructure isn't there. There's no business logic.

 

[AllaSnackbah]

NH bois ain't going to do shit. They are yet to sink a ship. If they were the time to start has already passed. Go burn some out of staters houses down and leave some graffiti proving motive. Until then it is phoney bluster. For cripes sake free staters have the least fight in them, they have a history of running away.

MA bois have a history of being knee bending cucks, like yeah you guys started the shooting but New Hampshire had already declared sovereignty at that point.

I hope the CNN kicks off and the NH bois lock it down and shoot anyone from Massachusetts at the border and then roast their transgender chowder flavored children over open fires and eat them.

 

[AllaSnackbah]

I live in a town of 3,500 people, the hub of a micropolitan area of maybe 8,000. We have a Shaw's and a Family Dollar. We have a liquor store, and an Aubuchon Hardware. We have Dunk's, Mickey's, and a variety of excellent local restaurants, including an outstanding microbrewery.

Damn. A family dollar and a shaws? Manchester got lit since the last time i was in NH.

 

[jdgill]

As a comparison, I grew up in Knoxville, TN. Bunch of rednecks in the woods, right? Every time I go back, which is about once a year, I'm blown away with the growth. New shopping centers, new restaurants, basically every amenity you could imagine. Rural roads a year ago are highways. There's nothing in NH that I couldn't find there. But plenty the other way around. And it's one relatively small southern town.

New England just doesn't grow like that. The land isn't there. The infrastructure isn't there. There's no business logic.

" Bunch of rednecks in the woods, right? ", I don't know how long ago that was, but I vacationed in the Knoxville area back in the 50-60s. It seemed like a metropolis then. I was back about 15 years ago heading to the Smokies and I was blown away with the sprawl.

I never figured Knoxville 'rednecks', maybe a bit farther east, but even that's getting populated.

 

[dlarge]

" Bunch of rednecks in the woods, right? ", I don't know how long ago that was, but I vacationed in the Knoxville area back in the 50-60s. It seemed like a metropolis then. I was back about 15 years ago heading to the Smokies and I was blown away with the sprawl.

I never figured Knoxville 'rednecks', maybe a bit farther east, but even that's getting populated.

You're right. But if you didn't know any better, it's TN, so must be all backwoods country. My point was really that culture shifts are difficult to swallow.

 

[MagGus1820]

NH needs more

Spoiler: Massachusetts Conservatives

cucks who cant comprehend true liberty who drive 2500HDs with thin blue line stickers on them

Don't tell me the official vehicle of freedom is a Lesbaru, because that sounds like a prison.

 

[Coyote33]

MA bois have a history of being knee bending cucks, like yeah you guys started the shooting but New Hampshire had already declared sovereignty at that point.

I hope the CNN kicks off and the NH bois lock it down and shoot anyone from Massachusetts at the border and then roast their transgender chowder flavored children over open fires and eat them.

WTF are you talking about?

 

[Climbnsink]

MA bois have a history of being knee bending cucks, like yeah you guys started the shooting but New Hampshire had already declared sovereignty at that point.

I hope the CNN kicks off and the NH bois lock it down and shoot anyone from Massachusetts at the border and then roast their transgender chowder flavored children over open fires and eat them.

The liberal sappers have already slipped through the wire into NH. Good luck.

 

[AllaSnackbah]

WTF are you talking about?

history and the future

 

[Len-2A Training]

No

Northern NH is pretty reliably red

There are swaths of the center of the state that are blue

Concord area
Hamover area
Plymouth area
Portsmouth area
SW edge of the state west of keene

Nashua is also True Blue! The towns surrounding it are Red.

 

[Chevy 2 65]

that's true. I find that I am more new hampshire than many of the actual new hampshire residents I work with

Same. They don't have a clue

 

[Friday]

VT is also being overrun this year. People are buying on the fly, and having their crap packed and shipped up from NYC. True panic buying. I predict in 2 years there will be a glut of NH/VT real estate once these whining city folks endure a northern winter, mud season, and realize the pizza delivery man isn't gonna show up when they want a pie.

 

[Roof gunner]

exactly right. and that's what the tons of foreigners do when they come here. They try to replicate what they left and forget that was the reason they left in the first place.

Oh well....what can you do.

This country will completely fall within the next 100 years and it will be done from the inside and sponsored by the government.

It’s not going to take a 100 years the way things are going

 

[SpaceCritter]

VT is also being overrun this year. People are buying on the fly, and having their crap packed and shipped up from NYC. True panic buying. I predict in 2 years there will be a glut of NH/VT real estate once these whining city folks endure a northern winter, mud season, and realize the pizza delivery man isn't gonna show up when they want a pie.

The problem is, the ones who can afford to do that can also afford to be someplace else during winter/mud if they so choose, and once there are enough of them, the trappings (and baggage) will follow.

 

[Dennis in MA]

MA bois have a history of being knee bending cucks, like yeah you guys started the shooting but New Hampshire had already declared sovereignty at that point.

I hope the CNN kicks off and the NH bois lock it down and shoot anyone from Massachusetts at the border and then roast their transgender chowder flavored children over open fires and eat them.

I'm still not sure if we've got someone off their meds or if this is a joke account. I would love to hear this persons opinion on Native Americans and the fair people of Hawaii. (Let's pick some different ethnic groups for a change. LOL)

 

[alpineboard]

They move in and immediately want the dirt road they moved to paved.

 

[Mountain]

When all you douchebags from Massachusetts move to North Haverhill you better be changing out your license plates and dropping the down syndrome accents pronto because the NH bois gonna declare open season on your asses.

The only common ground you have is sports teams and dunkin' donuts, exploit this and you may survive a winter.

Based upon your post, it appears that North Haverhill has already reached its douchebag limit via local supply.

 

[snax]

I was holding out hope, that Plymouth State, Keene State, and UNH would all have the first semester online only. I think we may see different results in those towns this election cycle.
Maybe even expose the student voter fraud.
I don't think that will happen.
Maybe they have huge outbreaks and send everybody online in October.

Glad/Not surprise to see the lakes region red. I have seen many a boat and cars on/around the lake this summer with Trump stickers/flags. If anybody frequents the trip up there and takes exit 20 from Tilton, you've no doubt have seen the massive Trump banner that says "stop the bullshit" near the Winnisquam bridge. It's huge. Suspended on a boom lift.

 

[boatman]

OK, Francis. LOL





Citified folk are NOT going to move to NH or ME. Maybe VT. They live in a city b/c they like that. SOME will gravitate to the burbs. FEWER will race to the city after this disaster. But you aren't getting folks living in WR or even Chestnut Hill racing to NH. And the younger they are, the less likely they are to move, statistically. (Yes, you know 8 people under 40 that moved to NH. Thank you Math-holio. LOL)

Exactly this.

My friends who live in NYC or even Boston live there because they like living there. They like having 30 restaurants within 2 blocks. They like being able to walk to the museum, concerts, etc. They could have chosen to move to the burbs and kept their jobs a long time ago if they didn't like the city.

If NYC people are really flocking (Sunnunu didn't give numbers) to NH, it would be for the taxes. Else if they just wanted out of the city, they could move to upstate NY, which btw is probably more 'red' than NH these days. NYC is really manhattan and a 60mi ring around it with NJ, LI, and CT, then upstate. Much of upstate is red. Actually, lots of LI is red.

 

[Climbnsink]

Exactly this.

My friends who live in NYC or even Boston live there because they like living there. They like having 30 restaurants within 2 blocks. They like being able to walk to the museum, concerts, etc. They could have chosen to move to the burbs and kept their jobs a long time ago if they didn't like the city.

If NYC people are really flocking (Sunnunu didn't give numbers) to NH, it would be for the taxes. Else if they just wanted out of the city, they could move to upstate NY, which btw is probably more 'red' than NH these days. NYC is really manhattan and a 60mi ring around it with NJ, LI, and CT, then upstate. Much of upstate is red. Actually, lots of LI is red.

You are missing one thing. They are scared. Not I'll just wear a mask at the supermarket scared. Full on petrified of other humans. These are people that have been brain damaged by the sniffle-plague pysop they will likely never be the same. All the vibrancy of a city that they used to love has in their minds become vectors of death.

 

[boatman]

You are missing one thing. They are scared. Not I'll just wear a mask at the supermarket scared. Full on petrified of other humans. These are people that have been brain damaged by the sniffle-plague pysop they will likely never be the same. All the vibrancy of a city that they used to love has in their minds become vectors of death.

Maybe, but that is not what I hear. I grew up in NY and have about 20 friends in NYC. Right now, safer than most places, no deaths for like 4 days last week, out of 8M people, that is pretty amazing considering what it was in the spring. Pretty resilient people, they lived thru 9/11. Most of them look at this now as survive for another 6 to 12 months, then have the city that they enjoyed back. Of course, arrogant SOBs, but pretty much that is how you survived there.

 

[Racenet]

VT is also being overrun this year. People are buying on the fly, and having their crap packed and shipped up from NYC. True panic buying. I predict in 2 years there will be a glut of NH/VT real estate once these whining city folks endure a northern winter, mud season, and realize the pizza delivery man isn't gonna show up when they want a pie.

I haven't had a pie delivered in almost 25 years. Oh, the good old days.

 

[headednorth]

VT is also being overrun this year. People are buying on the fly, and having their crap packed and shipped up from NYC. True panic buying. I predict in 2 years there will be a glut of NH/VT real estate once these whining city folks endure a northern winter, mud season, and realize the pizza delivery man isn't gonna show up when they want a pie.

I'm picturing a NYC couple getting pizza for the first time in NH.

"Oh there must have been a mistake. We ordered a pizza..."

 

[Lucas McCain]

At first, they are capable of recognizing why they are leaving, but soon they seem to forget or they never really understood how their previous State became a sh*thole. It always starts small; "Where I come from, someone would pick up the trash every week, let's get rash pick up" - and your taxes go up a little. "Where I come from we had ...." - and your taxes go up a little more.

Over a decade later all those small changes that seemed fairly insignificant at the time add up and when you look back you are surrounded by Karens, your taxes increased 60%, they are in the middle of voting for a new school worth $350M and you are looking at another tax hike. Don't worry, soon the FD and PD will get new HQ as well worth over $100M each.

People don't think long term.

Welcome to Pepperell MA, 20 years ago they had very low taxes and I bought a house there. Fast forward through all the incremental crap and suddenly we needed a new school. Cost over 89 million. My tax bill doubled so I GTFO of MA. Let people with kids pay for that crap.

 

[Dadstoys]

Don't worry, they will change their new location into what they left as quickly as possible.
Get on town boards , state level positions. ect.
Talk to some of them and they will tell you that you backward hicks have no idea what you are doing and they will soon "Fix" that.
One of my favorites out my way was this yuppie pair of dillholes that moved out here into the sticks and very soon started to bitch about everything.
During hunting season we were doing a spot we have been hunting since before these a-holes were born.
I came up to the swamp and it was higher than i expected so i cut up onto the road for a bit to go around.
Keep in mind these people had lived in town a grand total of three months.

Here comes the princess down the road in her SUV.
She stops with a horrified look on her face rolls down the window and says "What do you think your doing ?"
I said "What , the orange vest and the gun didn't give it away ?"
She spits out with a looks of hate on her face "Well, you can't hunt in my town!"
Normally i would have just shook my head and walked away , but she caught me in a special mood.
So i leaned in the window and asked her, " Sweetheart , when did you buy the whole f*cking town ?" , because as far as i know you just own that two acres up the road and when you leave it is when you should learn to shut your f*cking mouth. "

I made a new friend . .

There are many more just like her.
Every thing that falls before their eyes they think they have dominion over.

 

[AllaSnackbah]

Based upon your post, it appears that North Haverhill has already reached its douchebag limit via local supply.

I live in Arizona currently. New Hampshire is boring AF.

I'm still not sure if we've got someone off their meds or if this is a joke account. I would love to hear this persons opinion on Native Americans and the fair people of Hawaii. (Let's pick some different ethnic groups for a change. LOL)

It has nothing to do with race. People from Massachusetts just suck, even the "conservatives" generally think being a conservative means you vote R and "back the blue". In retrospect and from their viewpoint the Native Americans and Hawaiians probably should have killed white people and eaten their children on sight, if they had they'd probably be better off than they are now from their perspective. Instead they were mostly tolerant and look where they are now, running casinos in places like cuckville Massachusetts. I think if you gave them a look into their future they would have done everything they could to keep whites out, and thats exactly how NH should treat people from Massachusetts.