Supreme Judicial Court rules possessing a switchblade knife is no longer a crime under the 2nd Amendment

[Palladin]

This guy got grabbed with a spring assisted knife, not a true switchblade, the knife did not have an automatic release. Cops charged him with the switchblade act. The fact the Court has sided whim is awesome!

In two weeks, the legislature will pass a law stating you need a LTC for a switchblade

 

[ldi]

Finally going to get a Microtech.

What do you think of this?

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Stick to lowers

 

[MAD Geary]

Excellent news, the wording on the ruling appears to contradict 4885.

On another note, how long until the EOPS comes out with an “Approved Knives Roster” for the peons to follow?

 

[T-Unit]

This guy got grabbed with a spring assisted knife, not a true switchblade, the knife did not have an automatic release. Cops charged him with the switchblade act. The fact the Court has sided whim is awesome!

In two weeks, the legislature will pass a law stating you need a LTC for a switchbladeView attachment 912853

Imagine getting into it with somebody and you pull this out and at first they're like "OMG, HE'S GOT A GUN!" then they realize, "Wait, it's a knife... OMG, HE'S GOT A KNIFE!"

The prank possibilities are endless.

 

[Coyote33]

I paid $8.00 for my Kershaw 3650 at the Texas State Surplus store. Bins full of TSA confiscated knives. This one looks brand new.

Do we have that in Mass? I think I already know the answer.

Imagine getting into it with somebody and you pull this out and at first they're like "OMG, HE'S GOT A GUN!" then they realize, "Wait, it's a knife... OMG, HE'S GOT A KNIFE!"

The prank possibilities are endless.

He brought a knife to a gun fight? Gun to a knife fight?

 

[42!]

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In two weeks the same MA SJC will decide on NH folks carrying in NH. It is getting interesting.

https://www.ma-appellatecourts.org/docket/SJC-13561

https://www.ma-appellatecourts.org/docket/SJC-13562

these are coming up as bad links for me, I'm I the only one

 

[alan226]

Do we have that in Mass? I think I already know the answer.


He brought a knife to a gun fight? Gun to a knife fight?

There was a guy at the gun shows that had a table of TSA confiscated knives. I bought a few from him when he was at the Wilmington show

 

[MaroonedinMA]

To be fair, I bet most Joe Citizens had no idea whether switchblades were legal before this ruling, either. I bet 99.9% of the people living in the Commonwealth spend about zero minutes each year thinking about switchblades, other than remembering those cool-kid combs from the '80s.

I’m finally in the 1%!!!

I did not see this coming when I woke up. Mostly I’m excited to be able to throw a cheap one here and there without getting inadvertently jammed up when I forget about it later….

 

[Garys]

A state surplus store? I don't think so. I think that MA puts it out to bid. Texas auctions some stuff off, like used vehicles. They are stored at the surplus store, but I don't think you can just walk in and buy one.

They have a lot of state surplus property. Mostly desks, chairs, cabinets, obsolete computers and electronics, but sometimes interesting stuff. Last time I was there they had a big bin with rifle/shotgun locks for police vehicles. They also had some beat up Pelican long gun cases.

The TSA confiscated stuff includes pistol and magazines that people tried to pack in their carry on bags. $10.00 each and I've picked up some hard to find S&W 3rd Gen magazines.

Sorry for the thread drift, but then again, this is NES.

Do we have that in Mass? I think I already know the answer.


He brought a knife to a gun fight? Gun to a knife fight?

 

[KBCraig]

That's awesome. One of the surprises I got when moving from CT to GA was that switchblades are legal to own and carry here.

Like many people who leave Southern New England for the first time, you found out that what is forbidden there, is perfectly legal in most of the country.

State Laws Regarding Automatic Knives | American Knife and Tool Institute

The following states do NOT prohibit auto-open (also referred to as automatic, switchblade, or switch knife) for non-law enforcement citizens. Check State Knife Laws for specific details on possession…

www.akti.org

 

[Rob Boudrie]

How long before legislation is introduced to require a LTC to carry a semi-automatic knife?

And can the ban on double edged knives be the next law to go.

 

[MGnoob]

Regardless of being legal how long you can it’s gonna take for Amazon and all these other idiots to start shipping

 

[Darkslide]

For f***’s sake, they won’t ship me an OTF.

 

[design]

these are coming up as bad links for me, I'm I the only one

Try a different browser. They work on a phone and on a laptop. IF not google
COMMONWEALTH vs. DEAN F. DONNELL, JR.
SJC-13561

 

[M1911]

For f***’s sake, they won’t ship me an OTF.

So find a different vendor.

 

[Darkslide]

So find a different vendor.

I wanted to use up my optics bucks . Basically half price.

 

[Darkslide]

Nobody I found ships OTFs to civilians. Where do you guys buy yours?

 

[M1911]

Nobody I found ships OTFs to civilians. Where do you guys buy yours?

I found two vendors that will ship them to MA.

 

[Darkslide]

I found two vendors that will ship them to MA.

Me too! A quick Reddit search and BladeHQ and knifeworks will ship anywhere.

 

[straightshooterjake]

How long before legislation is introduced to require a LTC to carry a semi-automatic knife?

And can the ban on double edged knives be the next law to go.

I kind of hope they do go for requiring an LTC to carry a knife. They might well find that to be the proverbial two edged sword.

40 years ago, I got my FID because it was required at that time to get a pellet gun. The more things that require an LTC, the more people will get one. Some of those may even be people who feel "I don't even want a firearm license, but I guess I have to." And once they are over the license hurdle, they are just one range visit from discovering "this is fun, and I already have the license."

So on principle, I certainly don't agree with licensing for knives, but I also have some feeling of "bring it on, and lets see how that works out for you."

And on the separate issue of double edged knives, do we think that is fully separate from the question of switchblades? So Out the Front (OTF) automatic knives are OK now, but double edged OTF knives are still banned? The double edged question is especially relevant to automatics, because double edged folding knives are extremely rare, except for OTF knives where double edge is common.

 

[Biggles77]

Have I been so beaten down here in MA that I think this ruling is potentially amazing and significant? Am I just dosing on some "hope-ium" here?

Maybe 2a rights/issues are as simple as this? No fear, no plea deals, just an alpha move (knife guy's pretrial motion to dismiss), cited the Constitution, Heller/Bruen and boom - done.

Dude with a knife basically and singlehandedly gets 2a in MA on track back to the founders' intentions.

Makes me wonder how many gun related charges/cases quietly "go away" on a regular basis when individuals have simply refused DA plea deals and said "see you in Court". I then picture the DA counter offers of "okay no charges but you cannot discuss the deal otherwise we will take you to court". It's all a potential negotiation behind the scenes and the people without fear come out on top.

I'll speak for myself - selfishly, if I decided to play Russian roulette for my own 2a rights by not taking a plea deal and it would all go away if I just kept my mouth shut ... that would be my play 100%. If I could do it, anyone else could choose to do the same.

I think this ruling is HUGE and we have yet to see the positive repercussions.

 

[JJC]

What the hell is the difference,a knife is a knife whether it opens slow, or fast.
It can still do the same damage.

Assault knives open fast. Therefore they are a weapon of war. Duh. No civilian needs to open a knife that fast.

 

[Parker Schreiber]

How long before legislation is introduced to require a LTC to carry a semi-automatic knife?

And can the ban on double edged knives be the next law to go.

I expect some sort of licensing measure will be introduced and, alas, passed next year. While I hope it’ll eliminate the nonsensical definitions and rulings under the current law, I’m not holding my breath.

 

[M1911]

I expect some sort of licensing measure will be introduced and, alas, passed next year. While I hope it’ll eliminate the nonsensical definitions and rulings under the current law, I’m not holding my breath.

I doubt it. It took the legislature a long time to pass the gun control measure. I suspect that they simply won’t want to deal with it. They will just ignore it and move forward. Most people simply won’t be aware of this SJC decision.

 

[Darksideblues42]

I expect some sort of licensing measure will be introduced and, alas, passed next year. While I hope it’ll eliminate the nonsensical definitions and rulings under the current law, I’m not holding my breath.

I expect licensing will be passed next year with a retroactive requirement to last year. Why? Because Massachusetts says "f*** you!"

 

[freddieMA]

Raise your hand if you think the cash guzzling Bloomberg a** kissers on Beacon Hill are going to take this lying down. There will be a license to carry a knife, passed in the middle of the night, so now what cost you nothing to carry before, a knife and pepper spray will cost $100 punishable with 10 years in prison. They won't enforce the law because dingbat liberals are scared to death of mass incarceration of minorities who would turn on them in an election. It will framed as a constitutional crisis with deadly consequences for inaction. What did they base that decision on? By having a Netflix watch party for 'Rebel Without a Cause' and claiming that the James Dean movie represents the real world.

and then it reaches scotus, licensing goes away, and we all laugh wickid hahd.

 

[paul73]

Cops charged him with the switchblade act. The fact the Court has sided

so once again, the problem is the enforcement, not the law. as long as the process itself is the punishment - nothing will change.

 

[paul73]

I found two vendors that will ship them to MA.

beats me why to pay $350 for a stupid knife when there is a million of options in $20-$30 range that does same and looks same.

 

[M1911]

beats me why to pay $350 for a stupid knife when there is a million of options in $20-$30 range that does same and looks same.

More expensive knives are better than cheap knives. Of course, like anything, there is the law of diminishing returns. Where that sweet spot lies is up to you. Personally, I’ve started buying knives with better steels like Magnacut and most of those are north of $100.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

BTW, I am floored by how much quality knives cost nowadays. 2-300 bucks a knife is budget handgun territory.

Have you ever tried skinning a deer with a HiPoint Yeet Cannon? It is not much fun.