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[Sf Becket]

So record it? But there’s no Web portal? What’s the paper requirement? How long do I have to keep it so they can only go in their own ammo if I sell it to them then we gotta get the government involved? Sounds about right.

But I could have anything delivered to my front steps no signature? Seems kind of odd to me.

I’m thinking for now…

 

[DJBrad]

So record it? But there’s no Web portal? What’s the paper requirement? How long do I have to keep it so they can only go in their own ammo if I sell it to them then we gotta get the government involved? Sounds about right.

But I could have anything delivered to my front steps no signature? Seems kind of odd to me.

Exactly. FFLs will either be required to keep a paper log book or online database. Many do the online database but who would want to buy ftf from an FFL? Too much risk with too little reward and it’s just another way the State can damage the FFLs in Ma.

 

[MGnoob]

Exactly. FFLs will either be required to keep a paper log book or online database. Many do the online database but who would want to buy ftf from an FFL? Too much risk with too little reward and it’s just another way the State can damage the FFLs in Ma.

To me ftf means personal transfer between non-FFL’s

 

[DJBrad]

To me ftf means personal transfer between non-FFL’s

To be more accurate the law states “in-person”


New Section 122 of Chapter 140
“ (h) The licensee shall make and keep an on-site or electronic record of all firearm transactions and said record shall be open at all times to the inspection of the police. Before transfer or delivery of any sold, rented, leased or otherwise transferred firearm or ammunition, a legible entry in the on-site or electronic record shall be made and kept specifying: (i) the complete description of the firearm and ammunition transferred, including the make, serial number, type of firearm and designation as a large capacity firearm, if applicable; (ii) whether the firearm or ammunition has been sold, rented or leased and the date of such transaction; (iii) the license, permit or card identification number of the person acquiring the firearm, or ammunition along with their sex, residence address and occupation; and (iv) the purchaser, renter or lessee’s name as personally written by said person in the sales record book and as confirmed by valid state or federal identification. This subsection shall not apply to a gunsmith with regard to repair or remodeling or servicing of firearms unless said gunsmith has manufactured a firearm for the purchaser but said gunsmith shall keep records of their work together with the names and addresses of their customers.“

 

[Coyote33]

Dean Safety Karen?

I still think that was David Lee Roth and they all missed an opportunity for autographs.

 

[Sf Becket]

To be more accurate the law states “in-person”


New Section 122 of Chapter 140
“ (h) The licensee shall make and keep an on-site or electronic record of all firearm transactions and said record shall be open at all times to the inspection of the police. Before transfer or delivery of any sold, rented, leased or otherwise transferred firearm or ammunition, a legible entry in the on-site or electronic record shall be made and kept specifying: (i) the complete description of the firearm and ammunition transferred, including the make, serial number, type of firearm and designation as a large capacity firearm, if applicable; (ii) whether the firearm or ammunition has been sold, rented or leased and the date of such transaction; (iii) the license, permit or card identification number of the person acquiring the firearm, or ammunition along with their sex, residence address and occupation; and (iv) the purchaser, renter or lessee’s name as personally written by said person in the sales record book and as confirmed by valid state or federal identification. This subsection shall not apply to a gunsmith with regard to repair or remodeling or servicing of firearms unless said gunsmith has manufactured a firearm for the purchaser but said gunsmith shall keep records of their work together with the names and addresses of their customers.“.

I’m thinking online ammo sellers could decide not to deal with new law and not sell to Massachusetts

 

[Yummy_SPAM]

I’m thinking online ammo sellers could decide not to deal with new law and not sell to Massachusetts

Most already weren't.

 

[wildwest]

ATF/MSP: Sir, you purchased 2 cases of ammo last month, please show us that this is properly stored and accounted for.

Me: Sorry, I can't quite recall if it was all shot at the range, I don't reload so I don't collect brass. I know I donated some to the homeless guy at the NH border liquor store, by the way- got a warrant?

 

[MGnoob]

To be more accurate the law states “in-person”


New Section 122 of Chapter 140
“ (h) The licensee shall make and keep an on-site or electronic record of all firearm transactions and said record shall be open at all times to the inspection of the police. Before transfer or delivery of any sold, rented, leased or otherwise transferred firearm or ammunition, a legible entry in the on-site or electronic record shall be made and kept specifying: (i) the complete description of the firearm and ammunition transferred, including the make, serial number, type of firearm and designation as a large capacity firearm, if applicable; (ii) whether the firearm or ammunition has been sold, rented or leased and the date of such transaction; (iii) the license, permit or card identification number of the person acquiring the firearm, or ammunition along with their sex, residence address and occupation; and (iv) the purchaser, renter or lessee’s name as personally written by said person in the sales record book and as confirmed by valid state or federal identification. This subsection shall not apply to a gunsmith with regard to repair or remodeling or servicing of firearms unless said gunsmith has manufactured a firearm for the purchaser but said gunsmith shall keep records of their work together with the names and addresses of their customers.“

That’s pretty muddy. So what if I just mail it to you?.. that’s a joke. None of this means anything.

 

[DJBrad]

ATF/MSP: Sir, you purchased 2 cases of ammo last month, please show us that this is properly stored and accounted for.

Me: Sorry, I can't quite recall if it was all shot at the range, I don't reload so I don't collect brass. I know I donated some to the homeless guy at the NH border liquor store, by the way- got a warrant?

“But sir, she showed me her ebt card and used her epin. It was legit.”

 

[HorizontalHunter]

I just got the same one….. since ammo purchase tracking is supposed to be part of this new bill it may not bode well for us

They already do. All they really need to do is run a sales query to generate a report.

I was buying raw lead and my cool mailman like what the hell is in here lead? And I was like yes.

All in easy to dispense single servings.

 

[HorizontalHunter]

Exactly. FFLs will either be required to keep a paper log book or online database. Many do the online database but who would want to buy ftf from an FFL? Too much risk with too little reward and it’s just another way the State can damage the FFLs in Ma.

They did that about 40 years ago and it was a joke. It accomplishes nothing but waste peoples time so it was abandoned a long time ago. The good idea fairy strikes again.

 

[Horatio Alger Jr]

I know TS is great to alot of you, but support the local guy (they need the support more than ever).

Call or email your order in to Montu, you get close to TS pricing and a great time picking up your order.

 

[Picton]

I know TS is great to alot of you, but support the local guy (they need the support more than ever).

Call or email your order in to Montu, you get close to TS pricing and a great time picking up your order.

I get where you're coming from, and I sympathize with the little guy, but anyone who makes me register an ammo purchase with the state is not getting my business. Sorry.

I'll buy locally until the law goes live, certainly.

 

[MGnoob]

They already do. All they really need to do is run a sales query to generate a report.

All in easy to dispense single servings.

We had ranges get mad to us because we go out there with rakes and we lead mine. A place where they’ve been shooting for 100 years has quite a bit of lead easily accessible.

 

[LuvDog]

Dean Safety Karen?

I still think that was David Lee Roth and they all missed an opportunity for autographs.

Just don't call me rude if you see me.

 

[Coyote33]

I know TS is great to alot of you, but support the local guy (they need the support more than ever).

Call or email your order in to Montu, you get close to TS pricing and a great time picking up your order.

Who?

 

[Broc Tuah]

I know TS is great to alot of you, but support the local guy (they need the support more than ever).

Call or email your order in to Montu, you get close to TS pricing and a great time picking up your order.

Who is Montu?

Sounds like a big black Fijian. Is this a trap? Will I get rApetiled?

 

[Horatio Alger Jr]

Who is Montu?

Sounds like a big black Fijian. Is this a trap? Will I get rApetiled?

One only gets rApetiled if they want to get rApetiled.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

I know TS is great to alot of you, but support the local guy (they need the support more than ever).

Call or email your order in to Montu, you get close to TS pricing and a great time picking up your order.

Who is Montu? The Egyptian God? He has e-mail?

 

[MaxStravinsky]

Just wanted to remind folks....next weekend (Aug 10 & 11) is Tax Free Weekend. In years past, TSUSA has not charged us tax on those days!
I'm hoping to visit the Egyptian God and also make an offering to TS.

 

[Christian]

Shopping for some magazines for the new rifle I almost purchased them elsewhere, then I recalled TSUSA sells magazines. Wound up saving just over $55 buying from them.

 

[Orion2k]

Is the ammo logging rule for local sales already in effect as of 8/1 or does it go into affect in October?

 

[DJBrad]

Is the ammo logging rule for local sales already in effect as of 8/1 or does it go into affect in October?

October but don’t be surprised if some FFls try to take down your info.

 

[Sf Becket]

I’ll buy ammo in other states that’s all

 

[Orangeneck]

Just got an email from TS that they will continue shipping to Mass for now.

 

[APFSDS]

Shopping for some magazines for the new rifle I almost purchased them elsewhere, then I recalled TSUSA sells magazines. Wound up saving just over $55 buying from them.

I wish they sold more magazines and parts. They have AR, AK and Glock pattern mags and not much else. If they expanded their selection I would pretty much only buy from them TBH.

 

[headednorth]

We had ranges get mad to us because we go out there with rakes and we lead mine. A place where they’ve been shooting for 100 years has quite a bit of lead easily accessible.

My club told me to stop doing that. About as small an op as could be. I made a frame with a screen maybe 1'x2'. Scooped out of the base of the berm into the screen and then into a 5 gal bucket. I made sure I put the dirt back from where it came from so no holes left in the berm. Wasnt bothering anyone but was told to stop.

 

[VTski4x4]

PD *inspects log book* - I see Mr Rapetile has bought 5000rds over the last month. There's no way he could shoot that much.

1 day later.....*knock knock*

Town FD w/PD - sir we have evidence youvd purchased over 5000rds of ammo in a short period of time. We are going to have to come in and make sure you are complying with the MA Fire Safety Regulations


Dead dog. Raped sex doll. New shiny bracelets.

 

[Individualist]

PD *inspects log book* - I see Mr Rapetile has bought 5000rds over the last month. There's no way he could shoot that much.

1 day later.....*knock knock*

Town FD w/PD - sir we have evidence youvd purchased over 5000rds of ammo in a short period of time. We are going to have to come in and make sure you are complying with the MA Fire Safety Regulations


Dead dog. Raped sex doll. New shiny bracelets.

Exactly my thought. This new level of registration will be “proactively used to save children’s lives”. I expect there will be a new Pre-crime Bureau created. Pretty much targeting most of NES. Shit I’m having a bad morning.