What did you do in the reloading room recently?

[meh]

Any load data specific to HAP bullet?
Why trying to load so long?
Just curious
I dont load for any specific rules/level or load in any large quantities so basic load data has worked for me.
i have hap and xtp bullets sitting on the back of the shelf so some day I will need some good info.

In my case the “need” to load it “long” is being driven by the powder I am trying to use. It is slow-burning and bulky, and at the cartridge lengths the bullet was designed to run at (much shorter than SAAMI max), velocity will be on the low end. No particular reason I should care, but just seems right that I should try the sports car flat out on the open track and not just putter around in town. Most likely your standard load will work perfectly as long as the loaded cartridges plunk for you. If you find that it won’t, you’ll just need a shorter seating depth and a little less powder. Hodgdon and VV provide specific load data for it, maybe some others.

I got my test loads ready. 5.2 to 6.0 grains by 0.2gr increments of N350 at a COAL of 1.125”. Will hopefully chrono them this week.

 

[Jim Poulette]

Another good hour at the range - put the following new loads on the chrono:

(Same parameters as usual S&W PC 629 2-5/8", 25', strong hand) If anyone is interested in the data PM me. All of these are extremely accurate at 25' (IMHO).

7.1 gn Alliant SP behind 240gn SWC Poly (consistent 850-900 fps / 204-216 pf) To me these were the most comfortable ?
8.2 gn " behind 200gn RNFP Poly
8.6 gn " behind 200gn RNFP Poly
8.9 gn " behind 200gn RNFP Poly (consistent 950-1000 fps / 190-200 pf)

Right picture shows first 18 shots (7.1gn / 240 SWC). I rushed a couple of shots - but hey.......

 

[mac1911]

Handwriting is carry over from drafting engineering prints. My kids make fun of me all the time for writing notes in all caps, but they never say they can't read what I wrote lol.

I dont really know why I use all caps but my kids always have something to say about it

 

[headednorth]

Handwriting is carry over from drafting engineering prints. My kids make fun of me all the time for writing notes in all caps, but they never say they can't read what I wrote lol.

I dont really know why I use all caps but my kids always have something to say about it

What do you guys do when youre writing down passwords?

 

[xtry51]

What do you guys do when youre writing down passwords?

It pains me to write lower case for passwords. Lol

 

[walter62]

Today I finished getting my XL750 together and after searching for primers for 2 months, I
made my first mini-batch of 5 test loads just to convince myself they would go 'bang'. They did.

Will make more tmrw. Good day!

 

[NHCraigT]

It pains me to write lower case for passwords. Lol

My dad was a radio operator in the military about about 60 years ago. I remember thats how he always wrote things.

As kids, it made us contemplate that maybe we could pull-off writing our own sick notes for missed school days ;-)

It wasn't until I got my tech ham radio license around 2016 (and ham class lesson discussions, emphasizing the importance in taking very clear messages if you are operating any type of station) that I made the whole connection, with that ("legible writing" = all cap letters, each letter evenly spaced, firmly pressed writing to ensure pencil or ink was clearly visible, etc.).

He went on to become an electrical and computer engineer thru his GI bill, so that continued to work out for him.

I took architectural & mechanical drawing classes in HS in the early 80's, so I understand completely about the capital letter writing.

Of course, that skill is no more ..... now-a-days, with every design, construction plan, and tech drawing is done by CAD.....and computerized typed-in letter "fonts"

 

[mac1911]

What do you guys do when youre writing down passwords?

I type passwords?

 

[headednorth]

I type passwords?

LOL, me too, but first I write them on a sticky note and stick them to the inside of a drawer.

 

[BTSDOG]

Just relaxed while boxing up some loose ones.......

 

[meh]

I got my test loads ready. 5.2 to 6.0 grains by 0.2gr increments of N350 at a COAL of 1.125”. Will hopefully chrono them this week.

7/5/2021	Canik TP9 SFL	5.2" barrel
	Bullet	Primer	Powder	Charge	OAL	Average	Std	Min	Max	Spread	N
9mm	125gr Zero JCHP	WSP Match	N350	5.2	1.125	1128.8	11.6	1109	1138	29	5	mixed brass
9mm	125gr Zero JCHP	WSP Match	N350	5.4	1.125	1159.2	18.9	1127	1175	48	5	mixed brass
9mm	125gr Zero JCHP	WSP Match	N350	5.6	1.125	1192.4	28.6	1161	1233	72	5	mixed brass
9mm	125gr Zero JCHP	WSP Match	N350	5.8	1.125	1217.6	12.8	1198	1233	35	5	mixed brass
9mm	125gr Zero JCHP	WSP Match	N350	6.0	1.125	1257.2	4.6	1252	1262	10	4	mixed brass
9mm	125gr Zero JCHP	CCI SP	N340	4.8	1.090	1163.6	7.5	1153	1174	21	5	mixed brass

I haven't looked that closely at the brass yet, but I didn't see any troubling pressure signs. I think the lower charges were a bit sooty, in fact. I think I'll just go with the 6.0 grain load. That's the way it always seems to work out in 9mm for me--I work up the loads but always seem to end up with the book maximum, if there is one to go by, or the maximum I calculate from QuickLOAD or Gordon's. BTW, I wish I'd known about Gordon's before I bought QuickLOAD. It's nice having both to compare, I guess.

 

[dhuze]

So I finished the 2k can. I'll start shooting it this week and see what kind of treats I find. I added this note for myself. I'll also put red post it notes on outside of can.

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I have a box of .45's marked very similar.

I was cranking out rounds on a progressive and forgot about watching the powder. Somewhere along the way I ran out but kept loading. I started to pull them, but got sick of that real quick so I just put them in a box and marked them accordingly. I think there's less than 50 finallly.

 

[Jim Poulette]

@meh Nice data. Mean of 148 PF puts you at the top of the factory ammo range for 124/125 gn.

 

[Mudflap621]

I’ve been quiet as of late but have been making quite a bit of ammo. Finally settled on a load for my 308, 165gr partition over 43gr of imr 4064.

I also loaded up 400 rounds of 6.5, 147 ELD-M over H4350 for a buddy. 400 rounds of 77 SMK over 24.6gr of varget for my father, and another 400 rounds of 77 SMK over 24gr of Varget for myself. All three of us are heading up to RIDGELINE Precision this weekend for a two-day long-range class.

Got back to working on the dungeon today. Picked up some paneling and disassembled an old Rolltop desk and customized it to create some storage. Also picked up a couple LED strip lights. I’m sure it’ll evolve but I’m happy with the progress.

 

[mac1911]

I’ve been quiet as of late but have been making quite a bit of ammo. Finally settled on a load for my 308, 165gr partition over 43gr of imr 4064.

I also loaded up 400 rounds of 6.5, 147 ELD-M over H4350 for a buddy. 400 rounds of 77 SMK over 24.6gr of varget for my father, and another 400 rounds of 77 SMK over 24gr of Varget for myself. All three of us are heading up to RIDGELINE Precision this weekend for a two-day long-range class.

Got back to working on the dungeon today. Picked up some paneling and disassembled an old Rolltop desk and customized it to create some storage. Also picked up a couple LED strip lights. I’m sure it’ll evolve but I’m happy with the progress.
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Dungeon, please you have room to walk

 

[pastera]

I haven't looked that closely at the brass yet, but I didn't see any troubling pressure signs. I think the lower charges were a bit sooty, in fact. I think I'll just go with the 6.0 grain load. That's the way it always seems to work out in 9mm for me--I work up the loads but always seem to end up with the book maximum, if there is one to go by, or the maximum I calculate from QuickLOAD or Gordon's. BTW, I wish I'd known about Gordon's before I bought QuickLOAD. It's nice having both to compare, I guess.

I've played around with Gordon's but it doesn't have some of the powder that I use.
It is a good resource though and I need to start putting Chrono data into it.

 

[TrashcanDan]

I’ve been quiet as of late but have been making quite a bit of ammo. Finally settled on a load for my 308, 165gr partition over 43gr of imr 4064.


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Just out of curiosity-

How do you think those .308's would work on Hogs at say........200 or under?
4 legged russians or razorbacks, not the 2 legged american.

 

[Jim Poulette]

This morning? Compiled this - some cumulative data on the Alliant SP loads I've been making with both 240 & 200 RNFP.

The 7.1 gn is really comfortable to shoot with good accuracy - but I'll probably goose it up a little to 900-1000 fps and see if accuracy gets any better.

 

[Mudflap621]

Just out of curiosity-

How do you think those .308's would work on Hogs at say........200 or under?
4 legged russians or razorbacks, not the 2 legged american.

I have no previous experience with them but from my research it’s a pretty devastating bullet. I plan on using these for a moose hunt this fall, if im successful I’ll report back. I will say they aren’t the best for tiny groups although that’s not we’re they were designed for anyways. I found best I could accomplish is right around MOA. I didn’t really try any other powders though as I got a lot of imr4064 and was determined to use it.

 

[pastera]

Sized just under 1k 223 cases
Why just under? Because the idiot behind the lever dumped about 50-60 lanolin lubed cases on the floor to pick up every particle of dust, dirt and cat hair in the room.

Also dropped an unsized case into my bin of sized cases trying to hold too many in my feed hand - got to run that 150-200 cases again.

I should start drinking again so that I have an excuse...

Inventory shows SRP getting critical - down to 2k. Panic mode engaged once I load this batch. I may have to suppress my skinflint and actually pay butt rape pricing for a couple of bricks.

 

[meh]

Just came up from the basement after sorting brass, last step after yesterday's two batches of wet tumbling. I didn't think I'd done that much shooting since last time I cleaned brass. I sort most of my brass by headstamp, just not 9mm. I'm thinking about sorting some for the N350 loads since these will not be training loads, rather target loads for the Canik. <sigh> Another day.

 

[EddieZoom]

Received my copy of the "Blue Press" from Dillon and was skimming...the prices across the board on reloading equipment noticeably higher....supply/demand ? Inflation ? End of the world price gouging ?

Coming late to the reloading party has got to really suck....

 

[Jim Poulette]

I've noticed creeping price increases in just the last few months.

Most noticable is a LNL AP set up, now back in stock, but up about 15-20% in just the last 2 months.

 

[meh]

I realized today that I really don't need to cut brass down to imitate more closely in 44 magnum the internal ballistics of WST in 45 ACP. I just need to seat them deeply, like they were some kind of wadcutter almost. That way, I won't have to deal with fouling in the charge holes from using shorter brass. I don't want to do an exact duplicate because the 45 bullets are Brinell 18, and the 44 ones Brinell 12, but if I can get about 16K psi in 44 and 19K psi in 45, I think things should be about right. After some calculations, I settled on a COAL of 1.375" in 44 magnum brass, 1.225" in 45 ACP. Quickloads with 6.5 grains of Bullseye (don't have WST in QuickLOAD) tells me 16K PSI at 1025 fps in 44 magnum, 19.5K psi at 1084 fps in 45 ACP. The 44 COAL is a bit longer than what would give equal case capacity, I think, but there's obviously going to be more friction to overcome in the 44 situation, hence a bit higher pressure if all other things were made equal. All this is just an exploration of the concept, obviously. The WST load will probably end up around 5.1 grains, give or take and might not be the same for the two calibers. The 44's do look like a mistake. LOL

 

[TrashcanDan]

Received my copy of the "Blue Press" from Dillon and was skimming...the prices across the board on reloading equipment noticeably higher....supply/demand ? Inflation ? End of the world price gouging ?

Coming late to the reloading party has got to really suck....

Yea, I noticed that too. At least on the 750.

 

[dw617]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/reloading/comments/obcjqd/dillon_price_increases/

 

[NavelOfficer]

I realized today that I really don't need to cut brass down to imitate more closely in 44 magnum the internal ballistics of WST in 45 ACP. I just need to seat them deeply, like they were some kind of wadcutter almost. That way, I won't have to deal with fouling in the charge holes from using shorter brass. I don't want to do an exact duplicate because the 45 bullets are Brinell 18, and the 44 ones Brinell 12, but if I can get about 16K psi in 44 and 19K psi in 45, I think things should be about right. After some calculations, I settled on a COAL of 1.375" in 44 magnum brass, 1.225" in 45 ACP. Quickloads with 6.5 grains of Bullseye (don't have WST in QuickLOAD) tells me 16K PSI at 1025 fps in 44 magnum, 19.5K psi at 1084 fps in 45 ACP. The 44 COAL is a bit longer than what would give equal case capacity, I think, but there's obviously going to be more friction to overcome in the 44 situation, hence a bit higher pressure if all other things were made equal. All this is just an exploration of the concept, obviously. The WST load will probably end up around 5.1 grains, give or take and might not be the same for the two calibers. The 44's do look like a mistake. LOL

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You'll be just in time for the arrival of your .44 Nagant.

 

[ProGun]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/reloading/comments/obcjqd/dillon_price_increases/

I mentioned in another thread...Dillon's carbide pistol dies jumped to $120...50%

 

[walter62]

I was just on a vendor's website and noticed that the 750 spare parts kit went from $34.95 to 39.95 all for a couple of springs and
other penny pieces.

 

[meh]

You'll be just in time for the arrival of your .44 Nagant.

I'd forgotten about the Nagant revolvers. It does kind of look like that. Not much really new under the sun, I guess.

I debated in my head about increasing the crimp to make it look a little more finished. On that one I just put my Redding profile crimp die to use to make it chamber easily, like a taper crimp plus a bit of roll at the end. It just looks to me like there's a lot more neck tension than needed to make these bullets stay put at the modest recoil levels they will likely generate in my model 69, especially if I choose a load that delivers only about 850 to 900fps. I am a little worried about the 45ACPs, which will be shot in a revolver, a Blackhawk convertible. With the kinetic puller used on the round the first time I seated one, the seated bullet popped out on the first strike. It hadn't been taper crimped at that point, but a proper taper crimp should not add much, if anything. I guess if they move under recoil I can just over-crimp them a little. Maybe switching from the Lyman M-die to the simple Hornady expander would also help.