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Don’t be a wuss.They also have soft shoulders... They switched to the .308 from the 30-06 because they were pussies.
"we want a short action"... yea.... sure you do...
Such people care more about the effects on their shoulders than they do about the game... Those people are either ignorant or unethical hunters. 6.5 on elk, moose, bear, etc. is not pretty. It's barely sufficient for mature WhiteTail at midwest ranges.With all the smart ass trash talk here I really wonder if there is anyone here who actually tried a good modern ultralight (under 6lbs) hunting rifle, like that savage 110 k2 - chambered in 308 and then in 6.5cm side by side.
They are selling best in an 6.5cm for a reason, that’s all. Even if reason eludes you - it does not mean there isn’t one.
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When I went 6.5, I kept barrel life in mind. If I wanted barrel life, I would have gone 308. I don't mind dropping a few hundred every once in a while. There were several other factors more important to me than barrel life, and the 6.5 was far superior.Yea, you're right... When it comes to things like chamber pressures, barrel life, down range energy.... the 6.5 doesn't hold a candle to the .30 cals. There simply is no comparison. I mean hell, if you really wanted to go full vaginal sniper, you could at least argue for the 6.5 PRC.... But Creedmore.... That's a cute little rifle you got there. Does your non-binary adolescent they/them kid enjoy shooting it?
The exact same thing could be said about the 6.5 Creedmore. It's for man bun wearing, straight-edge, gender studies majors afraid of the .270.
…. But Creedmore.... That's a cute little rifle you got there. Does your non-binary adolescent they/them kid enjoy shooting it?
The exact same thing could be said about the 6.5 Creedmore. It's for man bun wearing, straight-edge, gender studies majors afraid of the .270.
Barrel life really isn’t terrible with 6.5 CMWhen I went 6.5, I kept barrel life in mind. If I wanted barrel life, I would have gone 308. I don't mind dropping a few hundred every once in a while. There were several other things more important to me than barrel life, and the 6.5 was far superior.
I considered the .270 instead of the 6.5cm and almost went with the .270, recoil wasn't considered (I shoot 458 win Mag, I don't care about recoil). I went with the 6.5cm because it uses less powder and still has great perfomance. The good powders are a huge pain in the a** to find today, so anything that has great performance and uses less powder, is good. If someone developed a cartridge today that performs just as good as the 6.5cm with half the powder, I would buy it.
If you want to post funny stuff here, that is fine.
But if you are going to argue like a 3 year old, go to some other thread.
Even if you change barrels after 3K rounds.Barrel life really isn’t terrible with 6.5 CM
22-250 or 22 CM, sure. But for 6.5, meh. Especially with chrome lined or nitrided barrels.
that photo - i could never understand why they use this position at all, bending forward like this - you cannot hit anything well holding that pose.
jut give it time, and you will collect all the rest in the lineup. it took me about of 1 season to play with 6.5cm in bergara lrp2 - then it was an urge for more.When I went 6.5, I kept barrel life in mind
Sounds like a 10mm fan boi. Just to set the record straight:That is what bothers the .40 fan bois. It was literally a cartridge designed for weak people.
One of the main reasons I keep coming back!EDIT: I can't believe I just read thru this whole thread. Wow. More entertainment than Saturday night live!
This should be our motto here!Dude, this is NES. Everyone has an opinion that is more correct than your opinion.
6.5 is perfectly fine for deerSuch people care more about the effects on their shoulders than they do about the game... Those people are either ignorant or unethical hunters. 6.5 on elk, moose, bear, etc. is not pretty. It's barely sufficient for mature WhiteTail at midwest ranges.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
You are forgetting another upside to a barrel with a long but finite life: you have an opportunity to improve your barrel. Maybe you want to play with chambering and get something that will let you run those awesome BC 156gr Berger EOLs. Maybe you want to try CF barrel.There were several other factors more important to me than barrel life, and the 6.5 was far superior.
Great point.You are forgetting another upside to a barrel with a long but finite life: you have an opportunity to improve your barrel. Maybe you want to play with chambering and get something that will let you run those awesome BC 156gr Berger EOLs. Maybe you want to try CF barrel.
You clearly didn't read the entirety of my comment.6.5 is perfectly fine for deer
I did misread itYou clearly didn't read the entirety of my comment.
Sure but at what cost? Replacing the Barrel in a Remington 700 is a far different story than replacing a carbon Barrel on a Springfield 2020 Waypoint.Great point.
But I didn't touch on that because a barrel can be upgraded on any gun. Anyone thinking of getting a gun in a certain caliber based on long barrel life is probably not thinking about ever touching that barrel.
I was considering a swamp Fox scope for a build I’m working on, and watched a lot of reviews on them. They seem to be very good quality for their price point.I will need a good scope. Not sure what yet. Looking at Swampfox, but need to do a lot of reading, not sold on those yet.
Won't be a competition rifle, but I don't want some cheap junk.
Let me put it this way ...Sure but at what cost? Replacing the Barrel in a Remington 700 is a far different story than replacing a carbon Barrel on a Springfield 2020 Waypoint.
Quality rifles will have quality barrels, and they're not cheap. They cost more than some of the cheaper rifles.
Admittedly, not a huge concern unless you shoot quite a bit. But still, not an insignificant expense.
If you compare barrel to factory ammo cost, its not much, even with reloadingLet me put it this way ...
This is like a race car driver complaining tires need to be replaced. The expense is part of the sport, if you don't like it, don't get in the sport.
You clearly hate "short" (whatever short means to you) barrel life. Therefore you probably won't shoot 6.5, that is fine. Stick with 308, 223 and move on.
I value a lot of other things far more than replacing a barrel, therefore I am fine with the cost. Be it $300, $400, $600 ... Barrels, just like everything, can be cheap or expensive AF.
It’s a stable position. Spread your legs and lean forward into the barricade/cover. Drive into it and load up, not just resting on. It’s actually very stable.that photo - i could never understand why they use this position at all, bending forward like this - you cannot hit anything well holding that pose.
snipers would shoot prone. if you`re by the window - you would find something to sit on. but to bend forward like this and bounce in your waist looks pretty stupid. and if shooting standing up, you would usually find something to lean at, to press your left shoulder into, to stop movement.
When I want your opinion, I will give it to you.This should be our motto here!
Maybe we should start a thread "Best NES motto!"When I want your opinion, I will give it to you.
The 6.5 CM shoots very similar bullet weights and velocities as 6.5 Swede. … Correct me if I’m wrong, but 6.5 Swede has a pretty good track record against bigger game like caribou and moose. Far from the “not pretty” category.Such people care more about the effects on their shoulders than they do about the game... Those people are either ignorant or unethical hunters. 6.5 on elk, moose, bear, etc. is not pretty. It's barely sufficient for mature WhiteTail at midwest ranges.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Reported!!!!Maybe we should start a thread "Best NES motto!"
Eh... I guess the roughly 400 ft/pounds in energy advantage the 308 has over the 6.5 means nothing then. Thanks for clarifying.The 6.5 CM shoots very similar bullet weights and velocities as 6.5 Swede. … Correct me if I’m wrong, but 6.5 Swede has a pretty good track record against bigger game like caribou and moose. Far from the “not pretty” category.
I’ve also seen longish hunting range (400+ yards) 6.5 CM kills against elk. If you’re hitting a vital zone with a good expanding hunting bullet, it doesn’t make a big difference if you’re using a 140gr 6.5 or a 168gr 7.62. They’ll both penetrate far enough and expand enough. Hell, there are plenty of people using 130gr 7.62 TTSX.
But if you want to say 6.5 is unethical for certain game, then 308 and original power 30-06 is also unethical. Then sure, go with modern pressure 30-06 or some magnums to feel a little more comfortable with the harvesting.
6 ARC. 6 GT is for across the course and benchrest nerds.So what’s the next caliber to go with now that we have our man buns? I’m assuming some flavor of 6mm. 6 GT? 6 ARC?
At the muzzle or at 1000yd?Eh... I guess the roughly 400 ft/pounds in energy advantage the 308 has over the 6.5 means nothing then. Thanks for clarifying.