17-year-old arrested in killing of 2 people in Kenosha

these prosecutors did not have a good day. They went from crappy witnesses to completely unethical allegations and bullying a witness.

I don’t get how this case hasn’t been dismissed. This is a joke.
 
Anyone else think the fat prosecutor Kraus is an a**h***? He’s been a sick from the start of the trial, making comments, faces and being a dock during questioning. Binger hasn’t been a sick like fatty has.
 
remember prior to rosenblaums attack, he throws a plastic bag ?

I don’t know if any of you noticed today but when grambo was being questioned she mentioned that earlier in the day Rosenbaum had a back pocket full of plastic bags, and threw one and it was actually a chemical bomb.

Surprised the lawyers live streaming didn’t mention how massive that admission was.
 
maltc said:
remember prior to rosenblaums attack, he throws a plastic bag ?

I don’t know if any of you noticed today but when grambo was being questioned she mentioned that earlier in the day Rosenbaum had a back pocket full of plastic bags, and threw one and it was actually a chemical bomb.

Surprised the lawyers live streaming didn’t mention how massive that admission was.
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Well, she couldn't say that she saw him throw a bomb, only that she saw him make a throwing motion. Almost there, but not quite.
 
so now the antifa harassment of jurors families is about to begin.
'deputy asked to delete the video' . ha.
www.foxnews.com

Rittenhouse judge says person caught filming jurors, orders deletion along with 'new procedures'

The Wisconsin judge overseeing the murder trial of Kyle Rittenhouse announced Tuesday that deputies had caught someone recording video of the jurors earlier in the day and would be taking new steps to ensure the incident did not happen again, in addition to ordering the person to delete the images.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
 
Nick Leduc said:
I got irritated listening to them question the plate carrier and what it was good against.
Witness: "It's good up to 357"
Prosecutor: "that's a handgun round, not like a rifle kyle had"

Me in my head: F you buddy, ever hear of a golden boy!!!!
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people during stalin era in the way to mock the regime were pleading guilty to be Paraguay spies, in the middle of the freaking siberia, but it was not an excuse good enough and they were still getting their 25 years of gulag. no one cares how insane obscure and improbable the show is, as the outcome is prescripted.

as it was said in some proverb long ago - 'the only guilt of yours is that i`m hungry'. that is what wolf says to a lamb before he gobbles it up.
 
KBCraig said:
Thought exercise:

If Grosskreutz had shot Rittenhouse, and claimed he was justified by stopping an active shooter, would he have been charged?
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Not a chance.

He’s not charged with the lack of a valid CCW which he admits he didn’t have and although they’re different states, I’m sure the law in Wisconsin is similar to GA or more restrictive in use of force/citizens arrest compared to GA.

Grosskruetz ran after rittenhouse and asked him what he did (he didn’t know firsthand). He watched rittenhouse be assaulted several times including by Huber, who was then shot, before grosskruetz pointed his gun at rittenhouse and charged at rittenhouse.

Look at what the morons in GA are being prosecuted for in GA in the death or Arbery. They’re claiming they were acting legal under GAs civil arrest law (I doubt Wisconsin has one or anything close to that which would allow someone to use force to detain or neutralize a person fleeing)

The morons in GA were idiots from start to finish but legally they’re trying to use that civil arrest law, saying they had the legal right to do it. But that law requires firsthand knowledge of a current crime, not speculation or a good faith belief. They didn’t have knowledge of a current crime, they believed Arbery “may” have been a person involved in theft weeks and months ago.

Grosskruetz didn’t see the shooting of rosenbaum (and even if he did, if rittenhouse acted in self defense then no crime was committed) . His asking rittenhouse as he was running “what did you do” lends credence to grosskruetzs lack of firsthand knowledge a crime was committed and he had the legal right to stop a fleeing suspect (again, I doubt Wisconsin has anything like what GA did last year. GA repealed that civil arrest law)

Grosskruetz didn’t fire a round so an attempted murder charge wouldn’t be legitimate but a assault and battery with a deadly weapon would be. It’s clearly on video and would be a strong case.


But the prosecution decided to arrest and charge rittenhouse less than 8 hours after the shooting and long before they knew 80% of the evidence. The defense has touched on this some and I’m sure they’ll hammer it more in closing. They say it was a clear case of self defense and there was a rush to judgement by the state and the charges are absurd
 
Hoover said:
He’s not charged with the lack of a valid CCW which he admits he didn’t have and although they’re different states, I’m sure the law in Wisconsin is similar to GA or more restrictive in use of force/citizens arrest compared to GA.
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Grosskruetz must have an immunity deal with the DA.
Because he gave testimony in court that could be used to
charge him with assault with a weapon, FPP in possession, etc.

Actually, does Grosskruetz have a Federal immunity deal?
Because he violated both Wisconsin and Federal laws...
 
AHM said:
Grosskruetz must have an immunity deal with the DA.
Because he gave testimony in court that could be used to
charge him with assault with a weapon, FPP in possession, etc.

Actually, does Grosskruetz have a Federal immunity deal?
Because he violated both Wisconsin and Federal laws...
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I guarantee he has immunity or it’s a wink and a nod agreement like what the prosecution surely has with rittenhouses friend Dominick who bought the rifle.

I don’t think grosskruetz is a prohibited person. I know he has one or a few convictions but I don’t think he’s a PP from those. The testimony is his CCW expired and he didn’t renew it, not that it was revoked. If he were a PP and his CCW was revoked or even if it had expired prior to his conviction(s) I think defense counsel would have Mande an issue of that. They only questioned him about it being expired and thus not legally allowed to conceal carry that night.
 
Hoover said:
Grosskruetz didn’t see the shooting of rosenbaum (and even if he did, if rittenhouse acted in self defense then no crime was committed) . His asking rittenhouse as he was running “what did you do” lends credence to grosskruetzs lack of firsthand knowledge a crime was committed and he had the legal right to stop a fleeing suspect (again, I doubt Wisconsin has anything like what GA did last year. GA repealed that civil arrest law)
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Wisconsin has no statute on this; closest thing is common law, which allows for "citizens arrest" but doesn't provide for somebody to use deadly force to stop a suspect fleeing from a felony he didn't personally witness
 

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