7.62x54r versus .30-06

[spcantwell]

surprised nobody has mentioned
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[tk421991]

Not to get off topic, but .45ACP is 850 fps, way short of 1000. At least out of a 5 inch barrel. 45ACP+P may be closer to 1000.

I think the mil spec, 230 grain FMJ is 850, and a lighter load like 180 is about 1000. Again, depends on the box or reloads at hand.

Anyways, I'm just going to get the Savage and keep the M91/30. I like the M91/30 too much, and the Savage is already set up with a scope. I can just change out the scope later because it has 1" rings. I'm seeing this rifle as a big tinker toy; its got a scope mount, its bolt action, its .30-06, and its a Savage. Good rifle, good cartridge, plenty of room to learn and shoot. I think this will be easier to reload for than the M91/30 once I buy a reloading kit.

 

[dnepro-mike]

There is literally no comparison. There's a difference of around 500 fps, with 7.62x54r being the slower of the two. Think about it this way, .45ACP is about 1000 fps and .44 Magnum can get up to 1400 or 1500 fps.

If your reloads get a 500 fps increase from factory speeds, without dropping down to a smaller bullet, that's an extreme overpressure. That'd be 7.62x54r +P+++. Look at a reloading guide, I have Lee and Vihtavuori guides. 7.62x54r will not get beyond 3000 fps unless you keep the bullets at or smaller than 150gr, and that's the high end. Shooting "overpressure" reloaded ammo out of a 70+ year old gun is a sure fire way to cause a catastrophic failure.

And yes, I'm planning on buying a Vepr.

just to see how much 70+ old rifle can take before failing and to what extremes people go to actually make it happen.
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[tk421991]

just to see how much 70+ old rifle can take before failing and to what extremes people go to actually make it happen.

I don't trust my life to two guys on youtube who wear hats and have beards.

 

[headednorth]

I don't trust my life to two guys on youtube...

Understandable

...who wear hats and have beards.

HUH ??? lol

 

[rudiewhitebwoy]

This. 20cents a round. And it's a blast to shoot. Would berry another crate.

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[ColdDayInHell]

I don't trust my life to two guys on youtube who wear hats and have beards.

They're very knowledgable , I wouldn't question anything Barry and Eric review /test.