9mm Carbine

[GeorgeMason]

A lot of talk about panic buying happening now. I decided to take an inventory of what I have vs. what I need that won’t be available for much longer. Results are in and my collection is very well future proofed with 1 glaring exception. I have no 9mm carbine. This needs to rectified. What are the recommendations from the NES brain trust? I’d like to keep it under $2k but am willing to go a little over if there’s a huge quality jump. I don’t want super cheap like a hi-point or kel-tec. I’ve read about AR9 unreliability, but not idea if that’s just certain brands/designs. I don’t hate the idea of something that uses Glock mags, but it’s certainly not necessary. So fellas, how should I spend my cash?

 

[Penniepup1]

Beretta CX Storm

 

[johngalt2]

You don't need them all.

 

[GeorgeMason]

Beretta CX Storm

Does it take 92 mags? I have a bunch.

 

[Penniepup1]

Does it take 92 mags? I have a bunch.

Yip

 

[GeorgeMason]

You don't need them all.

I’m a collector, can’t help it.

 

[paul73]

direct blowback ARs are not as nice a they appeal, at least to me.
if you decide to get one, make sure to get something you will be able to get cheap pre-ban hi-capacity magazines for. as shooting a carbine with a 10 round mag is not a lot of fun.

 

[johngalt2]

I’m a collector, can’t help it.

How many do you have in your collection?

 

[Cuz]

I think the Ruger PC Carbine is your best bet for reliability and overall use. It’s hard to beat.
I would not get a CX4 Storm, depending upon your location, I can let you try mine.

 

[friscoeast]

Bought a Smith and Wesson Response today at MFS

 

[Remote Camper]

9mm AR upper and 4 Mean Arms mag inserts.
So you have all the same fit and feel of your regular AR but now your shooting 9mm without the need of a mag block inside your lower.
You literally just change the upper and put in your 9 mm converted mags and go from there.


RC

 

[peter_nh]

The CX4 apparently likes the 92FS series mags, may have issues with regular 92 mags (unless you change out the mag well) evidently the locking notch is in a different place

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMlRcDnANAg


If in a "free" state you can get the 30 round mags!

EDIT:
This looks like the CX4 mag adapter for pistol 92 series mags:

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[Brin747]

I think the Ruger PC Carbine is your best bet for reliability and overall use. It’s hard to beat.

I absolutely love mine...

 

[BOSBoatMan]

I absolutely love mine...
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So what type of Glock mags does it take?

I tried to look it up didn’t find much

 

[Brin747]

So what type of Glock mags does it take?

I tried to look it up didn’t find much

I'm honestly not sure, I don't have any Glocks so I use the Ruger mags.

 

[M1911]

A lot of talk about panic buying happening now. I decided to take an inventory of what I have vs. what I need that won’t be available for much longer. Results are in and my collection is very well future proofed with 1 glaring exception. I have no 9mm carbine. This needs to rectified. What are the recommendations from the NES brain trust? I’d like to keep it under $2k but am willing to go a little over if there’s a huge quality jump. I don’t want super cheap like a hi-point or kel-tec. I’ve read about AR9 unreliability, but not idea if that’s just certain brands/designs. I don’t hate the idea of something that uses Glock mags, but it’s certainly not necessary. So fellas, how should I spend my cash?

I’d like to have a JPRifles JP5. It is AR15ish, but uses a roller-delayed locking system, like an MP-5 for reduced recoil. They are pricey, however, starting at $3,200. They take Glock mags.

 

[BlacknRed]

Storm has ambi cock and eject if that matters to you. Will want to do the upgrades from Sierra Papa. Beretta CX4 Storm Accessories & Parts Upgrades

There are several other threads on this topic I believe.

 

[Boghog1]

So what type of Glock mags does it take?

I tried to look it up didn’t find much

Interchangeable magazine wells for use of common Ruger® and Glock® magazines. Ships with SR-Series™/Security-9® pistol magazine well installed and an additional magazine well accepting Glock® magazines is included*.

 

[commodon]

Beretta CX Storm

I second the Storm.

Aside from using the 10rd mags that come with it, I use my 15rd mags from my Taurus PT99 (mfgr'd May 1988) without issue as well.

 

[wildwest]

Ruger PC Carbine 9mm - Guns N Gear

9mm Luger 17+1 16.12" Threaded/Fluted Barrel American Flag Cerakote Finish

gngsports.com

For the USA camo

Never been to the links local store but they are typically higher than everyone else
ETA again...sorry thought it was guns n gear

 

[GeorgeMason]

How many do you have in your collection?

Opsec dictates I don't answer. But it's just my personality, and it's not just guns. I have a big sneaker collection, big Lego collection. Some guys like to buy and sell guns all the time, some collect, some see them totally as tools. Same with anything else (cars, motorcycles, sneakers, coins, whatever).

 

[slap shot]

9mm AR upper and 4 Mean Arms mag inserts.
So you have all the same fit and feel of your regular AR but now your shooting 9mm without the need of a mag block inside your lower.
You literally just change the upper and put in your 9 mm converted mags and go from there.


RC

Couldn’t agree more. My mean arms run flawlessly.

 

[GeorgeMason]

I'm going to go to MFS and try the Beretta, CZ, and the MPX. I've shot the 9mm Tavor before. Intrigued by the s&w response but Leary of their qc.

 

[drgrant]

Opsec dictates I don't answer. But it's just my personality, and it's not just guns. I have a big sneaker collection, big Lego collection. Some guys like to buy and sell guns all the time, some collect, some see them totally as tools. Same with anything else (cars, motorcycles, sneakers, coins, whatever).

If I was strictly based off collecting theres no way I would reduce myself to something that took glock mags etc. I'd start at a CZ Scorpion and go up from there, otherwise you're just looking at pedestrian stuff. If money wasnt an issue id go with an MPx, most of the $ there is the fact that the mags are a Cosby Rape Machine, but if you are a boring collector that doesnt need a couple dozen mags with each gun then thats not a big deal. (I basically get cold sweats if I dont have at least like, 10, 12 mags or more for each gun type).

 

[GeorgeMason]

I’d like to have a JPRifles JP5. It is AR15ish, but uses a roller-delayed locking system, like an MP-5 for reduced recoil. They are pricey, however, starting at $3,200. They take Glock mags.

Seems cool, but I'm not dropping that much dough.

 

[Nick Fury]

Buy a Ruger PCC along with a few 30 round giggle sticks and you too can be a backyard storm trooper…

Hands down best bang for buck.

 

[GeorgeMason]

If I was strictly based off collecting theres no way I would reduce myself to something that took glock mags etc. I'd start at a CZ Scorpion and go up from there, otherwise you're just looking at pedestrian stuff. If money wasnt an issue id go with an MPx, most of the $ there is the fact that the mags are a Cosby Rape Machine, but if you are a boring collector that doesnt need a couple dozen mags with each gun then thats not a big deal. (I basically get cold sweats if I dont have at least like, 10, 12 mags or more for each gun type).

I'll definitely be shooting it too, especially with the 5.56 situation right now, I'm going to be a little more frugal with my supplies. Glock mags not necessary at all, I just have so many it should at least be part of my calculus. Honestly an MPX was one of my first thoughts. I don't NEED a bunch of mags, but I'll probably end up with them, so their cost is a consideration.

 

[M1911]

Seems cool, but I'm not dropping that much dough.

It is very spendy.

 

[Nick Fury]

This comp is awesome totally cuts down/redirects any perceived decibels. With subsonic ammo it’s quieter than my 10/22…

KVP Linear Comp — Dark Earth - Kaw Valley Precision

The KVP™ Linear comp is part of a small group of muzzle devices that are designed to collect and redirect muzzle gases down range. This helps lower the perceived decibels a shooter experiences. The positive effects of our comps are especially noticed in AR-15 pistols and SBR's that are notorious...

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[Berkshire Guy]

Take a look at the S&W FPC. I had a Beretta CX4 and liked it a lot, but didn’t love it like I wanted to. I let it go to pay a bill thinking I’d get another down the road. The FPC came out and since I do like and own a few M&P’s I took a looked. I liked the feel and handling. Brought it home and ended up loving it. It feels better, shoots better than the CX4. It’s smaller, lighter and folds up shorter than the CX4. I put a Vortex SPARC red dot on it. It makes the CX4 feel old, heavy and outdated. Some dislike the spare magazine holder in the butt and its release lever. It does not bother me, I just pull on the lever rather than push it to release the magazine. The slide release is useless so I just use the charging handle so no big deal. The CX4 did have a great slide release. The only drawback that I know is an issue for many is the magazine capacity if you’re in Massachusetts or anywhere else with restrictions and it doesn’t take Glock magazines. The other S&W PCC, the Response, fixes the magazine preference issue and is based off the AR platform so can change out the trigger group. It came out shortly after I bought the FPC. It felt cheap to me when I handled one (I only handled it, I did not shoot it) so I and happy with my choice.