Ak47

My co-worker got a very nice Bulgarian SKS with a milled receiver. I'm not sure the cost but he is always getting compliments on the quality when we go to the range.
 
Here is what I did for my first one, bought a Saiga, read the Saiga threads and watched the youtube videos, and did the conversion. By the time I was finished, I knew how it worked and how it went together. It made life a lot easier when I decided to build an actual AK from a Bulgarian parts kit.
 
There are no nice ones. They are all made by drunkards with a hammer and vise. The Soviet faction will appear to dispell the facts shortly.
 
Fixxah said:
There are no nice ones. They are all made by drunkards with a hammer and vise. The Soviet faction will appear to dispell the facts shortly.
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Please John... the average tard with a Midway account can clone any AR variant out there today. [laugh] Only a select few people in the world can come up with something exact like this:

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I know you said a AK47 but have you looked at/considered a AK74? Looks the same but more accurate and much cheaper to shoot. I have both.

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Fixxah said:
There are no nice ones. They are all made by drunkards with a hammer and vise. The Soviet faction will appear to dispell the facts shortly.
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SKS Ray said:
Please John... the average tard with a Midway account can clone any AR variant out there today. [laugh] Only a select few people in the world can come up with something exact like this:

dean1.jpg
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And there is a reason why it has been called the greatest assault rifle made. It can take a world of abuse from drunken tards and still put rounds down range reliably. In general, they may look like cheap, beat up pieces of junk, but it works, bitches! Making it work in the grimiest most abused, contaminated, neglected conditions imaginable was a top design requirement when Mikhail Kalashnikov thought it up nearly half a century ago. For all its faults, it takes a thrashing and keeps on blasting.

And this opinion is actually coming from someone outside "the Soviet faction".

I swear by my AR-15.
 
How tough (read: expensive) is it to come by a good preban AK here in MA? Are the receivers of the folding stock versions different than the fixed stock ones, i.e. can one with a fixed stock be converted to folding, or does it have to be made that way in the first place?
 
new guy said:
How tough (read: expensive) is it to come by a good preban AK here in MA? Are the receivers of the folding stock versions different than the fixed stock ones, i.e. can one with a fixed stock be converted to folding, or does it have to be made that way in the first place?
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that's a question that is better left for the law thumping people. There are lots of talk of the "the preban receiver HAS TO BE IN ASSAULT RIFLE FORM before the BAN OMG" talk.

However, fixed stock trunnions (with tangs for wooded butt stocks) readily accept romanian, egyptian, and east german crutch folding stocks. All three of these stocks existed in mass quantity in the world before 1994. They also existed in the United States. So there is no telling whether an enterprising owner bought one and shoved it on the rear of his preban polytech, classic, or norinco and then decided to replace the original wood stock after determining that the cheek weld was absolute shit.

So law thumpers will cry "OMG THERE IS NO PROOF YOU ARE SO ****ED" while I would probably take another stance.

Safe route: preban chicom folder. It was built that way. But get ready to pay $2,000 in MA if you can even find it.
 
flintoid said:
that's a question that is better left for the law thumping people. There are lots of talk of the "the preban receiver HAS TO BE IN ASSAULT RIFLE FORM before the BAN OMG" talk.

However, fixed stock trunnions (with tangs for wooded butt stocks) readily accept romanian, egyptian, and east german crutch folding stocks. All three of these stocks existed in mass quantity in the world before 1994. They also existed in the United States. So there is no telling whether an enterprising owner bought one and shoved it on the rear of his preban polytech, classic, or norinco and then decided to replace the original wood stock after determining that the cheek weld was absolute shit.

So law thumpers will cry "OMG THERE IS NO PROOF YOU ARE SO ****ED" while I would probably take another stance.

Safe route: preban chicom folder. It was built that way. But get ready to pay $2,000 in MA if you can even find it.
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Exactly what I needed to know. Spasibo.
 
Actually wait, one follow-up question: are prebans with wooden stocks any cheaper or more available here in MA?
 
flintoid said:
that's a question that is better left for the law thumping people. There are lots of talk of the "the preban receiver HAS TO BE IN ASSAULT RIFLE FORM before the BAN OMG" talk.

However, fixed stock trunnions (with tangs for wooded butt stocks) readily accept romanian, egyptian, and east german crutch folding stocks. All three of these stocks existed in mass quantity in the world before 1994. They also existed in the United States. So there is no telling whether an enterprising owner bought one and shoved it on the rear of his preban polytech, classic, or norinco and then decided to replace the original wood stock after determining that the cheek weld was absolute shit.

So law thumpers will cry "OMG THERE IS NO PROOF YOU ARE SO ****ED" while I would probably take another stance.

Safe route: preban chicom folder. It was built that way. But get ready to pay $2,000 in MA if you can even find it.
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One thing to keep in mind is with preban AKs a lot of them have enough other features to trip the AW limit, so even many of the preban AKs with fixed stocks were already AWs, because of their threaded barrels and such that would push them over the limit. Those you could add folders to if you wanted no problem.

-Mike
 
new guy said:
Actually wait, one follow-up question: are prebans with wooden stocks any cheaper or more available here in MA?
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they will be cheaper on the basis that there were more of them. It's a market value sort of thing. A lot less underfolding/folding stock pre-bans were imported. And there is a recent spaz attack going on at gunbroker about Sile imported Chicom AKs.

Somebody realized that they were more rare than other chicom imports. And bought one for $5k. Now every old fart in the USofA is selling their Sile import with a starting price of $3,750. Retardation at it's finest.
 
Pre ban AKs can be found at some shops that specialize in higher end stuff like Zero Hour. There is a nice Chinese pre ban hanging up there now.

Arsenal Inc AKs are professionally rebuilt Russian Saigas and are probably the closest you can get to a modern style Russian AK variant today without going through a dealer that does custom work.

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SKS Ray said:
Pre ban AKs can be found at some shops that specialize in higher end stuff like Zero Hour. There is a nice Chinese pre ban hanging up there now.
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I currently have a problem with Zero Hour Arms. Those "knowledgeable AK47 folk" sold a Bulgarian ak74 parts kit screw built on a shitty TGI AK47 receiver to a unsuspecting customer as a Pre-ban B-West AK74.

I wouldn't spend the pennies that come out of my puppies ass at that shop.
 
ski patrol said:
I am starting to look for an ak.
I don't know a ton about them.I want to get a
Nice one.any suggesting???
Im not interested in a wasr-10

Thanks guys
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ski patrol said:
Wow... I opened a can of worms!!
I was just looking for advice
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What do you want to spend?

Got a lot of dough to blow? Buy a preban AK. Preban Polytechs, Norincos, Arsenal Classics, Preban Chinese AKs... you name it. Just be sure it's a pre-ban AK before you pull the trigger. Lots of shops in MA like to sell bullshit at high dollar prices. Much like a pre-ban AR-15, you gotta do your research before buying what you think is a preban AK. They are obvious to me, but I also jack it every day to AK porn.

Got no dough to blow? Buy a post-ban MAK-90. These are the same chinese AKs that were sold in the US before the ban, except they are neutered: thumbhole (sometimes called "butthole") stocks, bayonet lugs ground down, no threaded muzzles. But they still are as smooth as butter and have all the of great chinese machined parts as their brothers made years before. You can get them for $550-600 in MA.

You can also buy neutered Arsenal builds, or convert a Saiga like Ed advised you, or build your own AK (like I do).


Prebans fetch $1k-3k.


Let us know what you get.
 
I have a pair of Norincos, one in 7.62x39 the other in 5.56. I LOVE the one chambered in 5.56!

I know a shop where you might be able to find a Norinco for around $550 ( if its still there )
 

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