Anyone know where to get Unicorn Droppings (primers) for non ass rape pricing?

[gerrycaruso]

I don't think so. I think that only applies to large rifle and pistol primers. I believe small rifle and pistol primers are dimensionally exactly the same. In fact, I think some people load all their 9mm ammo with rifle primers.

 

[PatMcD]

I know somebody who loaded a pile of 223 rds with small pistol primers.
It didn't work out well.

 

[xtry51]

I use CCI400 small rifle for .223 and 9mm. Never had an issue. I've never used small pistol primers TBH.

 

[paul73]

I don't think so. I think that only applies to large rifle and pistol primers. I believe small rifle and pistol primers are dimensionally exactly the same. In fact, I think some people load all their 9mm ammo with rifle primers.

looks like it is correct. i found this:

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Anyway, I was asking about the cup thickness, formula differences, and formula
amount differences between their #500 (SP), #550 (SPM), and #400 (SR). She had
me hold a minute to get the detail specs up on her screen and this is what she
said.

Cup thickness:

The #500 has a thinner cup than either the #550 or #400,
however, both the #550 and #400 have the same cup dimensions (including
thickness).
Flash powder formula:

All three sizes use the same formula for the flash
powder.
Flash powder amount:

The #500 has a slightly smaller amount (3
micrograms) than the #550 or #400 which both have the same amount.

I asked if the SR primers could be used as an acceptable substitute for the SPM
primers. She compared the #550 and #400 and then replied that yes, they appeared
to have the same specs, same dimensions, same cup thickness, same formula, and
same amount of flash powder. She even noted that the SPM primers were slightly
taller than the SP primers and were spec'd the same dimensions as the #400.

 

[steven grammont]

I don't think so. I think that only applies to large rifle and pistol primers. I believe small rifle and pistol primers are dimensionally exactly the same. In fact, I think some people load all their 9mm ammo with rifle primers.

I've used many of small rifle primers to load .38 spl with zero issues

 

[Demoman]

I don't think so. I think that only applies to large rifle and pistol primers. I believe small rifle and pistol primers are dimensionally exactly the same. In fact, I think some people load all their 9mm ammo with rifle primers.

You are correct sir

 

[NH Phantom]

target no hasmat on primers

 

[Demoman]

Large pistol 6 cents never tried them but worth a shot

 

[DW357]

Large pistol 6 cents never tried them but worth a shot

I heard they’re harder and can’t be tight in the primer pockets depending on the brass. Not worth the aggravation for me so I stick with the name brands. Another vendor has Winchester LPP for $80 per 1k shipped if you buy 5k

 

[Demoman]

Ill let you know how they go the squre b dillon I do 45 on isn't all that fussy with anything. Hopefully it's good if not it's on me for being a cheapskate

 

[Demoman]

Ill let you know how they go the squre b dillon I do 45 on isn't all that fussy with anything. Hopefully it's good if not it's on me for being a cheapskate

I bought the 650s have one i run 223 one 40 other 9 the one that is set on 40. I was running 45 and didn't like it as much as the square b yes it's faster but not the same

 

[38ExtraSpecial]

Large pistol 6 cents never tried them but worth a shot

My buddies are thousands deep in these with no issues. All went bang. All seated fine on 550s.

 

[Demoman]

My buddies are thousands deep in these with no issues. All went bang. All seated fine on 550s.

At those numbers I can crush a few and not care puts me at $5 a box with cast and $10 with fmj

 

[gerrycaruso]

I've used many Ginex large rifle with no problems yet.

 

[Rick O'Shea]

Free hazmat in the valley

 

[ddeck]

AR has 5000 Win SPP for $280 delivered. Buy 2 and get $20 off

 

[Broc Tuah]

I know somebody who loaded a pile of 223 rds with small pistol primers.
It didn't work out well.

Why?

SP and SR are the same.

 

[Broc Tuah]

I don't think so. I think that only applies to large rifle and pistol primers. I believe small rifle and pistol primers are dimensionally exactly the same. In fact, I think some people load all their 9mm ammo with rifle primers.

Correct.

Go to any USPSA competition and ask. At least 1/3 of the people reload 9mm with SR primers.

I buy only SR primers for pistol.

Unrelated, but I also haven't noticed a difference between LR and LR Magnum.

 

[PatMcD]

Why?

SP and SR are the same.

No, they're not.
At least they weren't the same 10-15 years ago when this story took place.

 

[ddeck]

I think the problem would be for a rifle with a floating firing pin. Dimensionally the SR and SP are the same but the cup is softer, so a rifle with a floating firing pin could set off a SP primer.

There is some evidence that the “military” SR primers like CCI 41 have harder cups to avoid any problems on AR15s

I’ve noticed my regular SR primers crater more on mild loads than the “military” ones so I think the cup is softer. (I’m nowhere near max loads.

Is this the ticket to the poor man’s full auto? Maybe

 

[Broc Tuah]

No, they're not.
At least they weren't the same 10-15 years ago when this story took place.

I have reloaded with both. No difference for me.

The only difference I ever heard someone mention is that SP is "softer" than SR. That seemed to be personal opinion.

Unless I read something from the manufacturer, or a good independ study, I stand by both being the same.

There might be differences across brands. Like some of my comp pistols won't ignite every CCI primer, but they will Federal and I have read Federal is softer. So maybe there is a noticeable difference going from SR CCI to SR Federal.

 

[PatMcD]

I have reloaded with both. No difference for me.

The only difference I ever heard someone mention is that SP is "softer" than SR. That seemed to be personal opinion.

Unless I read something from the manufacturer, or a good independ study, I stand by both being the same.

There might be differences across brands. Like some of my comp pistols won't ignite every CCI primer, but they will Federal and I have read Federal is softer. So maybe there is a noticeable difference going from SR CCI to SR Federal.

I'm talking about hot competition loads with heavy bullets. If he wasnt piercing primers, he was losing them in the lower. Had to take apart the lower to shake them out so often, he had to end his day early.

They may or may not work with ho-hum 55 grain loads.

 

[Broc Tuah]

I'm talking about hot competition loads with heavy bullets.

That wasn't mentioned in your post.

Hot loads will also do that to a rifle primer.

One time I loaded 6.5cm over max (by mistake) and had primers fall off and brass stretch to the point I couldn't seat a new primer.

So, for the average person, loading average rounds, they should work fine.

 

[p..]

I have reloaded with both. No difference for me.

The only difference I ever heard someone mention is that SP is "softer" than SR. That seemed to be personal opinion.

Unless I read something from the manufacturer, or a good independ study, I stand by both being the same.

There might be differences across brands. Like some of my comp pistols won't ignite every CCI primer, but they will Federal and I have read Federal is softer. So maybe there is a noticeable difference going from SR CCI to SR Federal.

It varies somewhat by brand, but you're going to find softer cups with small pistol. I would not be surprised to see pistol primers flowing back or piercing at 223 rifle pressures. I have one older S&W revolver with a little bit of a loose fit at the firing pin bushing where I get cratering using CCI 500s loading top end 357 magnum, which I don't see with the same loads using 550 or 400 primers. I don't need magnum pistol or rifle primers to ignite that specific powder, but I need them to withstand the pressure.

 

[PatMcD]

That wasn't mentioned in your post.

Hot loads will also do that to a rifle primer.

One time I loaded 6.5cm over max (by mistake) and had primers fall off and brass stretch to the point I couldn't seat a new primer.

So, for the average person, loading average rounds, they should work fine.

Same load, different primers. He had issues with SP primer, but not SR primers.
Hot load or mild load; who cares? They are not the same.

 

[Demoman]

I heard they’re harder and can’t be tight in the primer pockets depending on the brass. Not worth the aggravation for me so I stick with the name brands. Another vendor has Winchester LPP for $80 per 1k shipped if you buy 5k

Little stiffer on seating but nothing but a little more pressure. Really didn't notice to much s&b had more pressure seating. Haven't shot yet to see just got here and hour ago loaded 200

 

[bottle-cap]

https://www.northeastshooters.com/x...lti-caliber-5-000-handgun-primers-399.485142/

 

[Demoman]

Little stiffer on seating but nothing but a little more pressure. Really didn't notice to much s&b had more pressure seating. Haven't shot yet to see just got here and hour ago loaded 200

No issue in glock 21 with ginex primer being stiff

 

[steve8140]

A place with the initials AR has a skinflint deal currently. 5K factory seconds RUAG small rifle primers for $169.

They say the boxes have slight damage and blemishes.

Looking at reviews, several people bought these seconds a while back and ran them through a host of competition guns and only had 1-2 failures out of 5k rounds.

Not a bad option for plinking ammo.

 

[paul73]

factory seconds RUAG small rifle primers

what in the world is considered to be a 'factory second' - means 'defective' primers? they do not fire up, or do not fit properly into the pocket?