Cabela's is more insane than you think

[Realtor MA]

Who's insane? Cabela's or the legal system?

Missing, stolen ammo case regarding Cabela's returns to Del. Superior Court

The Delaware Department of Justice is one step closer to finding out how much ammunition was stolen from Cabela's at Christiana, and whether the retailer violated any laws.

www.wdel.com

 

[EJFudd]

Who's insane? Cabela's or the legal system?

Missing, stolen ammo case regarding Cabela's returns to Del. Superior Court

The Delaware Department of Justice is one step closer to finding out how much ammunition was stolen from Cabela's at Christiana, and whether the retailer violated any laws.

www.wdel.com

I thought leftist DimocRATS and their beloved Soros prosecutors were highly in favor of shoplifting up to $999.99. Did I get that wrong?

 

[Toast]

Interesting time in Bass Pro in Foxboro yesterday. Watching from perhaps 25' away as the expert at the gun counter was showing a pistol to a couple, apparently looking for something for the woman in the pair. He did manage to not sweep the couple or himself while showing them the gun. However, in the 30 seconds I was watching them, he managed to sweep me twice.

 

[chris_1001]

Interesting time in Bass Pro in Foxboro yesterday. Watching from perhaps 25' away as the expert at the gun counter was showing a pistol to a couple, apparently looking for something for the woman in the pair. He did manage to not sweep the couple or himself while showing them the gun. However, in the 30 seconds I was watching them, he managed to sweep me twice.

Do not, I repeat do not go to a gun show if you do not want to be sweeped, dealer and customers have no muzzle discipline

 

[Rockrivr1]

Do not, I repeat do not go to a gun show if you do not want to be sweeped, dealer and customers have no muzzle discipline

Yep. I’ve also never been swept more then when at Kittery Trading Post when they used to allow you to dry fire the firearms.

 

[Mark from MA]

Yep. I’ve also never been swept more then when at Kittery Trading Post when they used to allow you to dry fire the firearms.

You still get swept there. Not as bad lately its not as busy.

 

[allen-1]

I picked up brass cleaner in Berlin. They asked for my LTC.

If I didn’t know you - I’d seriously question that.

My wife just asked me if you told them to go f*** themselves?

I told her that you were far too dignified to do any such thing.

Did you?

 

[Agnotology]

Do not, I repeat do not go to a gun show if you do not want to be sweeped, dealer and customers have no muzzle discipline

I get it, but at some point it's ridiculous. I had a friend get pissed at me for pointing a pistol at his legs. He handed it to me in that orientation. With a bicycle lock through the action, out the barrel, and back out the action again.

I believe in 'treat every gun as if it could be loaded' with the exception of when there is no way it could be loaded.

 

[CATI]

If I didn’t know you - I’d seriously question that.

My wife just asked me if you told them to go f*** themselves?

I told her that you were far too dignified to do any such thing.

Did you?

I assume almost everything in that department outside of the safes is flagged for simplicity

I did at one point overhear counter talk, if it was legal to mount a "knife" and a "scope" to a shotgun and the employee left to ask another
(I did not stay to see what answer they came up with)

 

[steven grammont]

This. I can't remember the last time I bought a gun from an FFL that didn't come from @CrackPot or @KAG Arms - top notch dudes.

@KAG Arms makes the process of buying a firearm as easy as possible.

 

[nstassel]

If I didn’t know you - I’d seriously question that.

My wife just asked me if you told them to go f*** themselves?

I told her that you were far too dignified to do any such thing.

Did you?

It was a minimum wage drone at checkout. I laughed and said "really? For a bottle of solution?" She pointed to the screen which instructed her to confirm my ltc. No sense in hassling her.

 

[VetteGirlMA]

I don't know if I ever told my tale of Cabela's insanity. I was with a friend one spring weekend morning and said I wanted to go to Cabela's in Hudson to buy a rifle and said come along and we can go have lunch and go shopping afterwards. There was one small problem that I never gave any thought to. The pants I was wearing didn't have any pockets so I asked my friend if she could hold my cash for me while we're shopping. So I go into Cabela's, find something I wanted (a Henry), go to the special firearms checkout kiosk, enter in all of my information and then get to the special checkout line for firearms and this is where everything went sideways. I asked my friend to give me my cash to pay for the rifle. The checkout clerk immediately looks at me quizzically and nice and loud throws up her arms and says "I have a customer making a straw purchase and I am not going to finish this sale". I tried to tell the nutbag employee behind the counter "I don't have any pockets on my pants, what am I supposed to do walk around with cash in my hands?". Eventually the store management gets involved and hatched their plan. They made my friend walk out of the store and into the parking lot, whereupon she could walk back into the store. She was actually escorted by store security while all of this was going on. Once she was back in the store she stood in line in a regular checkout aisle where should could buy a Cabela's gift card to purchase the rifle. After checkout out she brought me the gift card and I used that to pay for the rifle. Needless to say I have never been back to Cabela's since that time and when I want something outdoorsy like camping gear I just buy it off of Amazon, no questions asked. The store had the rifle packed back up like I was heading off to the arctic. They insisted on putting on their own trigger lock, the cable lock through the action and approximately 1,000,000 layers of tape around the box to discourage me from going off on a lever action shoot fest or something. The whole thing was so much aggravation I decided that Cabela's is not worth giving them any business. Cabela's/Bass Pro then can suck it, I'm not giving them a penny.

 

[walter62]

Was at Berlin yesterday; not a single box of 9mm on the shelf and most of the other calibers were very 'thin'.

Powder selection was much less than usual although they did have primers.

 

[chris_1001]

I believe in 'treat every gun as if it could be loaded' with the exception of when there is no way it could be loaded.

The rule about sweeping is the first rule

Rule 1: Always Keep Firearm Pointed in a Safe direction. Never point your gun at anything you do not intend to shoot

Rule 2 is: the all guns are loaded.

 

[Toast]

I get it, but at some point it's ridiculous. I had a friend get pissed at me for pointing a pistol at his legs. He handed it to me in that orientation. With a bicycle lock through the action, out the barrel, and back out the action again.

I believe in 'treat every gun as if it could be loaded' with the exception of when there is no way it could be loaded.

Yeah, "Ahh, you took it in the configuration I gave it to you!" is silly. The clerk at BP, however, had racked the slide at least twice that I saw, apparently either demonstrating how to do it or how little force it took.

 

[Broc]

Whether it is clothes, or gun stuff, or other sports stuff, I want to hold it in my hands. With clothes, I want to feel the fabric and try it on for size. I don't understand what is so hard to get about that. I tried returning something to Amazon, and ended up just giving it away instead.

Amazon makes it way too easy to return stuff, not sure why you had such an issue you had to give it away.

 

[Broc]

I just bought a new shotgun through Cabela's and picked it up at Bass Pro in foxboro. Couldn't have been smoother. In and out in like 20 minutes. No BS. Knowledgeable staff.

You got lucky you weren't stuck behind a person trying to finger f*ck every gun while telling stories about how life was back in the 70s.

 

[Stump63]

Yeh, thats why I stick with the local small town dealers….F@#k those corporate chickens&#t ….I only go there to buy Beef Jerky

 

[Rockrivr1]

You got lucky you weren't stuck behind a person trying to finger f*ck every gun while telling stories about how life was back in the 70s.

Was buying a rifle at KTP one time. It was a more rare item that I’d been looking for and some random guy comes up and starts telling me all the “facts” he knows about the rifle. I couldn’t get a word in edgewise. Complete know it all and after a bit the sales guys injected that we had to fill out paperwork and the guy finally got the clue. Annoying big time.

 

[Agnotology]

The rule about sweeping is the first rule

Rule 1: Always Keep Firearm Pointed in a Safe direction. Never point your gun at anything you do not intend to shoot

Rule 2 is: the all guns are loaded.

Sorry, there is a point where it no longer matters. Like putting on your seatbelt to move your car 6 inches forward in the driveway.

"flagging" with a pistol with its barrel, chamber, action, and magazine well impeded by a bicycle lock is the same as being flagged by a stripped lower or a glock lower with no slide, barrel, or recoil spring. All 3 have equal likelihood of having one in the chamber.

 

[pinefd]

..."flagging" with a pistol with its barrel, chamber, action, and magazine well impeded by a bicycle lock is the same as being flagged by a stripped lower or a glock lower with no slide, barrel, or recoil spring...

Agreed, but the person across the room who sees it pointed at them, can't necessarily see, or know all of that.


Frank

 

[chris_1001]

Sorry, there is a point where it no longer matters. Like putting on your seatbelt to move your car 6 inches forward in the driveway.

"flagging" with a pistol with its barrel, chamber, action, and magazine well impeded by a bicycle lock is the same as being flagged by a stripped lower or a glock lower with no slide, barrel, or recoil spring. All 3 have equal likelihood of having one in the chamber.

It’s good practice and polite at the very least.

Seatbelt is to protect you not the person you are driving the car at.

 

[Agnotology]

It’s good practice and polite at the very least.

Seatbelt is to protect you not the person you are driving the car at.

If you don't care you handed me a gun in the previous described condition where the only way it could be less operable is if you started taking parts off, that's fine by me. Just don't bitch as me for picking it up in the orientiation it was handed to me in.

Yes. And it makes as much sense to put your seat belt on to move your car 6 inches in your own driveway as to be worried about flagging someone in my described situation. Because you didn't care enough to not flag yourself to begin with.

 

[alx]

My money says it was a Ruger 10/22, with an extra killy Tasco scope.

I bet it is a Volquartsen Black Mamba X- 6" barrel with red dot - a Cabela's exclusive if I recall correctly

 

[MauraHealey]

I bet it is a Volquartsen Black Mamba X- 6" barrel with red dot - a Cabela's exclusive if I recall correctly

I bet it was an illegal firearm, which they all will be.

 

[Agnotology]

Agreed, but the person across the room who sees it pointed at them, can't necessarily see, or know all of that.


Frank

yeah, but we aren't talking about someone across the room. We were talking about a me in a walk-in closet with a friend who was showing me a collection.


But I will bite - how big a room is it for you not to notice a bright orange chain coming out of the action, barrel, mag well, but still see a gun?

 

[Broc]

Was buying a rifle at KTP one time. It was a more rare item that I’d been looking for and some random guy comes up and starts telling me all the “facts” he knows about the rifle. I couldn’t get a word in edgewise. Complete know it all and after a bit the sales guys injected that we had to fill out paperwork and the guy finally got the clue. Annoying big time.

At least you had the gun.

I have been stuck behind the "finger f*ck every gun and tell a story" dude a few times. I always look at the sales guy like "do you know how to sell?" ... but the guys keep handing every gun over and waste 30min.

I get it, good customer service, but you should be able to tell when someone is just f*cking around and start helping the person behind them.

 

[Mark from MA]

I don't know if I ever told my tale of Cabela's insanity. I was with a friend one spring weekend morning and said I wanted to go to Cabela's in Hudson to buy a rifle and said come along and we can go have lunch and go shopping afterwards. There was one small problem that I never gave any thought to. The pants I was wearing didn't have any pockets so I asked my friend if she could hold my cash for me while we're shopping. So I go into Cabela's, find something I wanted (a Henry), go to the special firearms checkout kiosk, enter in all of my information and then get to the special checkout line for firearms and this is where everything went sideways. I asked my friend to give me my cash to pay for the rifle. The checkout clerk immediately looks at me quizzically and nice and loud throws up her arms and says "I have a customer making a straw purchase and I am not going to finish this sale". I tried to tell the nutbag employee behind the counter "I don't have any pockets on my pants, what am I supposed to do walk around with cash in my hands?". Eventually the store management gets involved and hatched their plan. They made my friend walk out of the store and into the parking lot, whereupon she could walk back into the store. She was actually escorted by store security while all of this was going on. Once she was back in the store she stood in line in a regular checkout aisle where should could buy a Cabela's gift card to purchase the rifle. After checkout out she brought me the gift card and I used that to pay for the rifle. Needless to say I have never been back to Cabela's since that time and when I want something outdoorsy like camping gear I just buy it off of Amazon, no questions asked. The store had the rifle packed back up like I was heading off to the arctic. They insisted on putting on their own trigger lock, the cable lock through the action and approximately 1,000,000 layers of tape around the box to discourage me from going off on a lever action shoot fest or something. The whole thing was so much aggravation I decided that Cabela's is not worth giving them any business. Cabela's/Bass Pro then can suck it, I'm not giving them a penny.

While I love to never give them business again.....two reasons I go in there are people buy me gift cards for them. And once and a while they get some nice old guns and don't price them full retard. The latter doesn't happen much anymore though, everything is priced full retard.

I was in there yesterday to buy some jerky mix with a leftover xmas gift card and they are full of guns at retard pricing. The library is overloaded with racks stuff stupidly priced.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Guns seem to be the one item where the small independents can beat the mega chains.

 

[Mark from MA]

Guns seem to be the one item where the small independents can beat the mega chains.

Maybe....east of 495......giant online dealers kill most small gun shops on price and there aren't many shops worth a squat near me with any stock that I generally would want. Caveat is I have a fantastic dealer that loves transfers very local to me. Extremely convient for me where I live.

So online is the only thing for new guns........

KTP or Cabelas cause the volume of older used stuff is like no shops near me. I might be able to find a nice older rifle/shotgun there. Or I have a gift card.