Even Texas has gone soy woke.

[paul73]

big brother is good for you. love your big brother.

Texas State Police Gear Up for Massive Expansion of Surveillance Tech

DPS plans to spend millions in taxpayer dollars on a controversial software, used first as part of Governor Abbott’s border crackdown, to “disrupt potential domestic terrorism.”

www.texasobserver.org

 

[weekendracer]

Texas has never been at the forefront of gun rights. I think that’s a mistake a lot of people make.

Having been to multiple state fairs, of all the places I kinda can get behind a gun ban, that's one of the places/times.

 

[weekendracer]

AKSHULLY New Hampshire is the free-est. Just don't smoke weed lol

Do You Live In A Top-10 Gun-Friendly State? - The Truth About Guns

We all know that governments in some states have great respect for the Second Amendment, while leaders in other states don’t give a second thought to passing yet another law that infringes on citizens’ right to keep and bear arms. But do you know how your state ranks in relation to the other...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

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That map is really splitting hairs to get to the 'freest' state. Tennessee is pretty open minded in reality. Probably on par with Louisiana and Texas when it comes to what actually happens, but ranked 17th?

Louisiana, your car is an extension of your house. I had guns around me all the time growing up in Texas, never got in trouble. We used to shoot in my back yard in a subdivision outside of Houston in the 80's, 1 acre lot, not some huge plot of land. Not often, but no one called the popo when we did.

 

[Garys]

That, however is not unique to Texas. The last 10 years of the Brockton Fair were like a combat zone. I think that the Eastern States Exposition was similar, but the last time I was there was 1979.

Having been to multiple state fairs, of all the places I kinda can get behind a gun ban, that's one of the places/times.

 

[KBCraig]

Having been to multiple state fairs, of all the places I kinda can get behind a gun ban, that's one of the places/times.

If you think guns should be banned there because too many people are getting shot, then why are you going there?

 

[weekendracer]

If you think guns should be banned there because too many people are getting shot, then why are you going there?

I don't, I said I 'went' to a few. And I never said they 'should' be banned, but a bunch of people drinking and doing dumb games where ego gets involved is a bad mix with firearms. But what do I know?

I don't go to Mardi Gras parades either. Pretty much any large group of people.

 

[Dennis in MA]

You mean the New Hampshire that has gone for the Democrat Presidential candidate since GW Bush left office? The one with TWO Democrat US Senators? The one with both Congressmen Democrats? How long was Jean Shaheen Governor?

Don't get me wrong, my fall back plan if we couldn't move to Texas or South Carolina was New Hampshire. I have a lot of friends who live there, all of them are Republicans and left MA because they hated the politics and the gun laws. Still it's not all that "free" by my metrics.

Shhhh. They were telling us that VT was "a great conservative gun-loving state" right up unitl it enacted it's "shocking" magazine ban. LOL.

NH is a RCH away from being mASS. Of course, it is somehow mASS's fault. LOL. Shoulda built a wall around teh state or something. ROFL!!!!

 

[Garys]

It's still, as far as I know, that if your property in Texas is not in a city you are free to shoot on it. They certainly set the data up the way they wanted it for the planned result.

As I said, NH was our fall back if TX, SC, or even TN didn't work out. The only problem with TN is that we didn't have any friends or family anywhere in the state. TN gun laws seem to be very much like TX in regards to binding signage. Again, I've shot on private property at a friend's house outside of Nashville. For that matter I did that in NH as well, right across the state line from MA.

That map is really splitting hairs to get to the 'freest' state. Tennessee is pretty open minded in reality. Probably on par with Louisiana and Texas when it comes to what actually happens, but ranked 17th?

Louisiana, your car is an extension of your house. I had guns around me all the time growing up in Texas, never got in trouble. We used to shoot in my back yard in a subdivision outside of Houston in the 80's, 1 acre lot, not some huge plot of land. Not often, but no one called the popo when we did.

 

[weekendracer]

It's still, as far as I know, that if your property in Texas is not in a city you are free to shoot on it. They certainly set the data up the way they wanted it for the planned result.

As I said, NH was our fall back if TX, SC, or even TN didn't work out. The only problem with TN is that we didn't have any friends or family anywhere in the state. TN gun laws seem to be very much like TX in regards to binding signage. Again, I've shot on private property at a friend's house outside of Nashville. For that matter I did that in NH as well, right across the state line from MA.

Binding signage is neat. I look at the sign and walk right past it. I don't open carry, because it's gay.

 

[KBCraig]

It's still, as far as I know, that if your property in Texas is not in a city you are free to shoot on it. They certainly set the data up the way they wanted it for the planned result.

Not quite. Counties may restrict shooting on less than 10 acres. Most of Texas is unincorporated, but unincorporated suburbia includes a huge part of the population.

Texas Local Government Code Sec. 235.022. AUTHORITY TO REGULATE. To promote the public safety, the commissioners court of a county by order may prohibit or otherwise regulate the discharge of firearms and air guns on lots that are 10 acres or smaller and are located in the unincorporated area of the county in a subdivision.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

So yeah, TX is not the gun haven you might think it is. Because of binding signage a LOT of places you cannot carry including most malls, Ikea, etc.

Bonding signage evolved over time.

It was not addressed in the original carry permit law, so some creative TX apparatachik decided that violation of a sign was "armed criminal trespass" (a non-trivial crime in TX)

The TX legislature "fixed" that by making it a separate offense to violate a sign (large, bilingual, 1" font, specific wording, posted at all public entrances)

And, the lastchange gave us....

Leaving when ordered to by the person in control of the property is a codified defense to the violation of the binding sign law in TX. So it's really a "keep it hidden" law.

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Constitutional carry has a trap - the federal gun ree school zones act bans carry within 1000ft of a school unless you have a permit from the state allowing such carry. In states like TX, that means there is a real benefit to a TX carry permit. Being in a state where a permit is not required is not some sort of "virtual permit", and there have been successful prosecutions with multi-year sentences under the GFSZ act for carry that is not a state crime. I at least one case, it was someone considered "suspicious" that they police "Wanted to get" because he parked watching a school for hours in TC.

If a state has reciprocity with other states, it would likely cover the federal exemption requirement - but I do not know how that would work for a state that has reciprocity on the bookx bus has went con carry.

 

[GL2020]

Shhhh. They were telling us that VT was "a great conservative gun-loving state" right up unitl it enacted it's "shocking" magazine ban. LOL.

NH is a RCH away from being mASS. Of course, it is somehow mASS's fault. LOL. Shoulda built a wall around teh state or something. ROFL!!!!

I was playing pool with a guy at a legion in VT and he said there was an “RCH” to sneak by a ball to make his shot. I had not heard that acronym so I asked what the “R” stood for. He said “Red…and it is the finest measurement known to man” lol

 

[Dennis in MA]

It's old-school for sure. You have to call your revolver a roscoe as well if the two are within 2 sentences of each other.

 

[Garys]

May, but by and large don't. Plus the one person I know who lives in a county like that says that everyone routinely ignores the rule.

Again, where in MA can you do that? Legally, that is.

Not quite. Counties may restrict shooting on less than 10 acres. Most of Texas is unincorporated, but unincorporated suburbia includes a huge part of the population.

Texas Local Government Code Sec. 235.022. AUTHORITY TO REGULATE. To promote the public safety, the commissioners court of a county by order may prohibit or otherwise regulate the discharge of firearms and air guns on lots that are 10 acres or smaller and are located in the unincorporated area of the county in a subdivision.

 

[CrackPot]

Constitutional carry has a trap - the federal gun ree school zones act bans carry within 1000ft of a school unless you have a permit from the state allowing such carry. In states like TX, that means there is a real benefit to a TX carry permit. Being in a state where a permit is not required is not some sort of "virtual permit", and there have been successful prosecutions with multi-year sentences under the GFSZ act for carry that is not a state crime. I at least one case, it was someone considered "suspicious" that they police "Wanted to get" because he parked watching a school for hours in TC.

If a state has reciprocity with other states, it would likely cover the federal exemption requirement - but I do not know how that would work for a state that has reciprocity on the bookx bus has went con carry.

It is essentially impossible to drive around populated areas of Texas w/o driving through a 1000ft school buffer zone. School districts are not aligned with towns/cities which are not limited to single counties. School districts are many and they locate their schools in the middle of populated areas. LOTS of grammar schools for each high school.

When I visit my brother in a suburb of Houston, I stay at a hotel 3 miles from his house. The direct route to his house I pass through 4 school buffer zones. One of them even touches the north bound right lane of a major highway.

Enforcement of the federal GFSZ act would essentially take out everyone they want it to.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Enforcement of the federal GFSZ act would essentially take out everyone they want it to.

Exactly.

TX still has a carry permit system in place, so one can get covered for the GFSZ issue.

 

[HuntMaine]

The mass wave of Californians is much overblown. It's limited to Austin and really only the people who have come in over the last 2-3 years. I've talked a bunch of people who moved here 10-20 years ago and they are all conservative.

Maybe you should take to them again Houston is overflowing with libs now as is dallas

 

[pastera]

May, but by and large don't. Plus the one person I know who lives in a county like that says that everyone routinely ignores the rule.

Again, where in MA can you do that? Legally, that is.

General Law - Part IV, Title I, Chapter 269, Section 12E

malegislature.gov

Section 12E. Whoever discharges a firearm as defined in section one hundred and twenty-one of chapter one hundred and forty, a rifle or shotgun within five hundred feet of a dwelling or other building in use, except with the consent of the owner or legal occupant thereof, shall be punished by a fine of not less than fifty nor more than one hundred dollars or by imprisonment in a jail or house of correction for not more than three months, or both.

The provisions of this section shall not apply to...(c) persons using underground or indoor target or test ranges with the consent of the owner or legal occupant thereof; (d) persons using outdoor skeet, trap, target or test ranges with the consent of the owner or legal occupant of the land on which the range is established;

There are towns with no discharge laws but you are free to have a range on you own property elsewhere.