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My cost analysis from 13-Oct'15,
updated for cheaper HF boxes and locks.
updated for cheaper HF boxes and locks.
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The steel cans are a lot more than a few bucks, more like $10. I'm not praising the plastic cans tho, but they are a very good price for basic ammo storage and organization.
Whoopty do, it's not like they're 50 bucks or something. A decent surplus ammo can can be had for the price of ONE BOX of .45 or something for chissakes. The level people go to skinflint is crazy.
These boxes are like something you would buy for a boy scout troop for a bunch of fishing kits to be used once and thrown away. They're
f***ing junk for anything remotely serious. I sure as hell wouldn't be stuffing $100+ worth of ammo in one.
-Mike
Whoopty do, it's not like they're 50 bucks or something. A decent surplus ammo can can be had for the price of ONE BOX of .45 or something for chissakes. The level people go to skinflint is crazy.
These boxes are like something you would buy for a boy scout troop for a bunch of fishing kits to be used once and thrown away. They're
f***ing junk for anything remotely serious. I sure as hell wouldn't be stuffing $100+ worth of ammo in one.
-Mike
Can’t support these and a lot of cans/boxes when a 5 gallon bucket would be better for storage.... transportation is another matter and even then consumer plastic boxes would be laughable.
Funny this thread gets brought back up as I was at Walmart last week and saw they had brand new/not surplus .50 cal metal ammo cans for $12.75. That's better than the price for Harbor Freight's metal cans.
Generally stuff like this doesn't last at Walmart, they seem to get stuff like this and it's gone within a few weeks. I remember a few years ago they had CR123 batteries for $5 a 2 pack and they disappeared never to be seen again.
.30 cal cans are freakin tiny. They're so space limited that you're never be able to put enough ammo in them to put the strength of those cans to good use and they're so skinny that they'll tip over if you stack too many of them. Sad to say, the plastic cans at HF are better when they're $3.Midway had or maybe still has new Chinese made metal .30 cal cans on clearance for $6.23 each, and free shipping over $49.
.30 cal cans are freakin tiny. They're so space limited that you're never be able to put enough ammo in them to put the strength of those cans to good use and they're so skinny that they'll tip over if you stack too many of them. Sad to say, the plastic cans at HF are better when they're $3.
Stop skinflint’n and dick’n around
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Its to bad as a kid my dad would take us down the cape air base and the US Army reserve Armory - a few different ones over the years. We could pick ip as many cans as we wished. Wish I was smart enough to grab more of the stuff the “army” through out
At one point almost everything shooting/fishing and camping where in ammo cans. We got them all for free.
The problem with any of these “cans” is they are primary designed for storage and then tossed aside in the field when used.
Almost all the cans we had eventually failed with use. First the gaskets go , them the pins on the hinges - first the lid starts sliding off real easy. Then eventually the handle fails. IF rust did not settle in
Back then for free storage they where great. At some point they started to be worth something and they would show up at places like Bre-Wey bait and tackle for $1 each free if you packed them with other surplus stuff
So buy a pallet its $3 more over HF
Such a waste. They should have a clearinghouse like the CMP, but for these things. I always wanted one of those $50 surplus Jeeps on a crate they used to advertise when we were kids. Had I known then what I know now, I'd have bought a bunch of them.
So basically not being reused? So either they are not good enough for Mil to reused or they are contracted so cheap its not worth recyling them. ? So yes maybe not scattered all over after use but they are not purposely picked up in great numbers to be reused?Not buying it. It's pretty difficult........no extremely difficult to wear out a GI ammo can.
With a little silicone dielectric grease on the gaskets once in a while, they'll last at least your lifetime, maybe your kid's too. If you're not running them over with a vehicle they are extremely long lasting and robust.
They are not tossed aside in the field anywhere, they are collected up and either destroyed locally in combat areas to prevent enemy use and in the U.S. they are brought to DRMO for disposal/sale. Same goes for artillery fuse cans, mortar shell cans, powder cannisters, 20mm, 30mm, 40mm, 80mm rds, and rocket cans and fixed ammo artillery crates. Go to government auction sites and see.
I've been to Cherry Point NC DRMO yard and there was dozens of acres of all types of cans on pallets......likely millions of them along with 20-30 thirty yard dumpsters over flowing with unserviceably bent ones that were punctured or crushed.
Right next door were the Humvees.......most of them whole.....being crushed in a crusher.![]()
I can see the stuff that actually makes it to liquidation is only a small fraction of the waste that makes it to auction.Such a waste. They should have a clearinghouse like the CMP, but for these things. I always wanted one of those $50 surplus Jeeps on a crate they used to advertise when we were kids. Had I known then what I know now, I'd have bought a bunch of them.
So basically not being reused? So either they are not good enough for Mil to reused or they are contracted so cheap its not worth recyling them. ? So yes maybe not scattered all over after use but they are not purposely picked up in great numbers to be reused?
Any how i have about 10 cans left out of the god knows how many went through our house growing up. Even all my dads alice gear eventually gave way to aprox 15 years of heavy use
i have a few items left.
I can see the stuff that actually makes it to liquidation is only a small fraction of the waste that makes it to auction.
Right , Im wording it wrong what I guess Im saying the cans are designed for one time use like enblocs for the garand. They will out live any and all plastic cans I have seen and used for sure.No, neither the military nor the military ammo reuse cans, all cans for small arms ammunition are new with newly manufactured ammo and the can is part of the contract. The cans are one thing that the military DRMO actually makes money on as they are a free byproduct of all the ammo they purchase.
They are picked up from the military ranges by the service companies/batteries for processing back to DRMO to be auctioned and yes its in very large numbers.
Its a crazy market for sure, few years back friend won a bid on 3 55 gallon drums of 223 and 9mm brassThe liquidation aspect is bid out on contract and it involves billions of dollars worth of surplus items of all types. A new company recently won the bid and they are starting many of the auctions at high prices. This can be seen in the prices of MEP generators....used to be you could get a good one for under a 1000, now they are starting at 1200 and up and being bid up to 4-5000 and higher and some of them are real junkers. I lucked out with my two, just before the transition took place.
Same for humvees and bigger trucks and lots of other items including ammo cans, brass, construction equipment, etc.
One thing I have learned from this resurrected thread is that most gun guys are just like me. Cheap bastards at times and other times we will spend like drunken sailors.
Where else will you find a bunch of guys that will scrutinize the hell out of the cost of cheap ammo cans, and then turn around and drop a grand or two on a gun because we just had to have it?
I have an Amateur Extra-class ticket,Whoopty do, it's not like they're 50 bucks or something. A decent surplus ammo can can be had for the price of ONE BOX of .45 or something for chissakes. The level people go to skinflint is crazy.
One of the best threads in Usenet ne.food or Digital Eats (I forget which)These boxes are ... f***ing junk for anything remotely serious. I sure as hell wouldn't be stuffing $100+ worth of ammo in one.
That beats the Harbor:Funny this thread gets brought back up as I was at Walmart last week and saw they had brand new/not surplus .50 cal metal ammo cans for $12.75. That's better than the price for Harbor Freight's metal cans.
Siphoned off at the loading dock for "employee discount", man.Generally stuff like this doesn't last at Walmart, they seem to get stuff like this and it's gone within a few weeks. I remember a few years ago they had CR123 batteries for $5 a 2 pack and they disappeared never to be seen again.
^ Well played..30 cal cans are freakin tiny. They're so space limited that you're never be able to put enough ammo in them to put the strength of those cans to good use and they're so skinny that they'll tip over if you stack too many of them.
($2.99, not counting the mezzanine).Sad to say, the plastic cans at HF are better when they're $3.
Someone tell @Mike Stanton.You beat me to it with your criticism.
They fit linked ammo great though![]()
Does that price include the cans, or just the pallet?Stop skinflint’n and dick’n around
Ammo Can, .30 Cal., OD Steel w/ Hinged Lid - Pallet of 205 Pieces
How about empty 1/8oz. bottles of Tabasco sauce from MRE repair kits?Not buying it. It's pretty difficult........no extremely difficult to wear out a GI ammo can. ... They are not tossed aside in the field anywhere, they are collected up and either destroyed locally in combat areas to prevent enemy use and in the U.S. they are brought to DRMO for disposal/sale. Same goes for artillery fuse cans, mortar shell cans, powder cannisters, 20mm, 30mm, 40mm, 80mm rds, and rocket cans and fixed ammo artillery crates.
If they were anything like the surplus Polaris nuclear submarines,Such a waste. They should have a clearinghouse like the CMP, but for these things. I always wanted one of those $50 surplus Jeeps on a crate they used to advertise when we were kids. Had I known then what I know now, I'd have bought a bunch of them.
I paid .05¢ more for a non-military grade foam insert at the Marlboro show.I needed a place and way to store magazines, so I ordered this foam insert as well, which fits into the above cans:
Case Club 24 Magazine Holder .50 Cal Ammo Can Foam (Pre-Cut, Closed Cell, Military Grade Foam)