20 degree downward angle
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20 degree downward angle
meh. it`s possible, but i would not think the hazard of ricochets there is too real, to harm anyone from 100yds away. no more than a ricochet from a plate itself.
from other perspective - to front it with a wooden plank will reduce the desire to hit the rail itself to hear the sound of it. still i think it would be a long lasting solution, as a current one, with all the significant effort to erect it, apparently, only lasted a season.
it is really like a challenge now, what can inquisitive minds here to come up with to counteract a sheer destructive force of chaos.
ps. if we put a wood in front i would guarantee there will be more than one moron to try to staple a target on it. as good luck stapling shit to a damn rail.
The top piece was just replaced less than 1 month ago. So, the top piece lasted really only a week before someone decided to shoot it, destroying the pieces holding the chains.meh. it`s possible, but i would not think the hazard of ricochets there is too real, to harm anyone from 100yds away. no more than a ricochet from a plate itself.
from other perspective - to front it with a wooden plank will reduce the desire to hit the rail itself to hear the sound of it. still i think it would be a long lasting solution, as a current one, with all the significant effort to erect it, apparently, only lasted a season.
it is really like a challenge now, what can inquisitive minds here to come up with to counteract a sheer destructive force of chaos.
ps. if we put a wood in front i would guarantee there will be more than one moron to try to staple a target on it. as good luck stapling shit to a damn rail.
The previous piece did last 1 whole year before it got eaten up by spall.
The member(s) has probably been following this thread enjoying the chatter as a result of them being an a**h***.
On the other hand, I’m thinking would they purposely do this knowing they won’t be able to shoot at the 100 yard range with the targets/hardware broken??
On the other hand, I’m thinking would they purposely do this knowing they won’t be able to shoot at the 100 yard range with the targets/hardware broken??
of course, as it was a 'challenge' to use the scope to hit the mounts. like every time it was done before.
@ssholes will remain @ssholes no matter what.
here, i do not have anything on my PC now to do a proper drawing, but it is rather self-explanatory, i hope. if you lay a rail naturally, it will be reflecting it all downside.
army setup had shit like that welded on sides to other solid rail pieces, we can use that is already in the ground, it is only a matter of having top piece to be solid steel.
i think that will (should?) last longer than a week. unless someone will bring in a whole zinc can of black tip .308 and will cut it in half.
I can make it super simple and go back to the original design that is identical to the 200/300 steel rack, we can use the railroad track piece instead of tube steel.
That said whoever the chucklehead is will find a way to destroy it. I could also just never do steel again lol
That said whoever the chucklehead is will find a way to destroy it. I could also just never do steel again lol
well, that would be considered unnecessarily cruel.
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i think rail on top thing may work. give a whistle when a work party would be needed, pls.
Tallahassee
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How long of a piece do you want?
VTski4x4
NES Member
Weld some rings to a flat steel plate to hang the chains, and then secure it to the underside of the wood with like 8 full length bolts. Then even if a few bolts are shot in the wood, it will still stay attached. If the chains get shot, some new shackles can be swapped out quickly. I can't draw on my phone, but it makes sense in my brain.
At least 5 feet long.
They are installing new train track on the rail by my street. I could prob get a old piece.
Based on how things work I guess spare rails will not hurt.
gerrycaruso
NES Member
Make it difficult to damage because you know someone will try. You can only make things a**h*** resistant. It's not possible to make anything a**h*** proof.
gerrycaruso
NES Member
Pretty empty this morning. A couple of cars parked there but no one shooting at the 7,10, 25 or 50. No one at the 100 either. The frame that holds the steel is shot to shit as I have come to expect. Maybe that MGM Public Range Target would slow down the damage but I don't know if it's rated for rifle rounds.
VTski4x4
NES Member
Great day at the club per usual. Had the MG range all to ourselves (since the 65 was being used). Ended the day doing draw/shoot/holster reps @ the sub gun steel.
Asaltweapon
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Why do paying members feel the need to damage club property? That’s an insane thought process.
Cameras are probably next or worse than that will be Range Officers and ammo restrictions. Wouldn’t that suck!!
What a shame all because of idiots.
Makes me glad I moved away and gave up my membership.
Cameras are probably next or worse than that will be Range Officers and ammo restrictions. Wouldn’t that suck!!
What a shame all because of idiots.
Makes me glad I moved away and gave up my membership.
Rockrivr1
NES Member
I don’t see an issue really with cameras. Hopkinton has been doing it for years. If the board doesn’t abuse it then it can be a good tool to narrow down who is wreaking what.
Asaltweapon
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I have an issue with them because I follow the rules established and agreed to when I join anything.
This sounds like it’s being done on purpose and that’s different.
It’s too nice of a club to allow it going to shit over some nitwits.
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From where I sit; The solution to this issue is to pile drive an i-beam into the ground. Then weld the steel to the i beam angled toward the firing line at 10 or 15 degrees. I'm sure a section of rail road track will do the trick too.
You could also weld a piece of steel to the exposed portion of the i-beam as a shield/deflector
You could also weld a piece of steel to the exposed portion of the i-beam as a shield/deflector
gerrycaruso
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There are several creative solutions that will slow down the damage but a determined individual will defeat them all. Many people put a lot of effort into that range. It's too bad it's all destroyed by a few.
walter62
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Anyone know if the Harvard indoor range is air-conditioned? Yes, I’m a pussy.
You are what you eat.
gerrycaruso
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I only shoot outdoors because indoors is too loud and I don't want to breath all that crap. Now that I'm old and a sissy if it's very hot or very cold, I just don't shoot as long as I used to.
walter62
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we had a beautifully fabricated T target holder and there were more rounds cratering the holder than there were the targets, we welded it up half a dozen times then decided to go a different direction.
Its below grade so it should be cooler if you use the fan carefully, if you turn the fan on you'll have it up to outside temperature in no time at all.
I propose mounting a couple real cameras, in not obvious places, and 23 fake cameras that are impossible to miss.
You might not even need the real cameras.
gerrycaruso
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My son in law who owns a security company told me that fake cameras are illegal.
