Has anyone ever been charged for having an unpinned muzzle device on a 14.5 inch upper if the OAL was still 16 inches?

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Massachusetts...

I have a 14.5 inch upper that I'm getting a pinned flash hider for.

Must it be pinned?

I know this is federal so has anyone ever been charged for this if not pinned?

Is it also illegal in Massachusetts if the flash hider can accept a suppressor?
 
Massachusetts...

I have a 14.5 inch upper that I'm getting a pinned flash hider for.

Must it be pinned?

I know this is federal so has anyone ever been charged for this if not pinned?

Is it also illegal in Massachusetts if the flash hider can accept a suppressor?

Dude, honest question, how the fruck do you go through life worrying about all this shit along with every nuance? You're thinking about this at midnight and then start a thread about it???
 
Dude, honest question, how the fruck do you go through life worrying about all this shit along with every nuance? You're thinking about this at midnight and then start a thread about it???
It's either this, or hes worried about getting shot in a gay bath house in Pittsburgh
 
Ever have a fudd come up to you at a range get up in your face "is that a flashhider?" *no, it's a comp* "OH GUD. COZ U CANT HAVE DAT"
I had gun experts at HSC ask me if my E German 74 Bakelite mags are pre-ban, after I told them they were E German.

Ask me if my rifle was pre-ban after compacting the stock to put in my soft case.

Lots of people that just can't appreciate things for what they are without questioning everything so they can "help" you lol

I really like NES, but damn I miss the pre-NES HSC. The NES chain sponsorship that happened some years ago really kind of screwed the place up in regards to membership.
 
Imo if a LEO is taking a wrench to your rifle to check if something is permanent, your in a world of hurt.

How permanent is permanent? I'm sure i could shear a pin, what about red loctite?
 
I guess I'm lucky, I've never run into a range fudd at HSC. My shooting buddies and I mind our own business, and we've never had a problem. Been asked to share a plate rack a few times, and have always had a cordial experience. Only time I've run into anything random was a guy who thought Glocks were illegal, and then proceeded to load 17rd mags in his XMacro. I just kind of chuckled and didn't say a word.
 
Massachusetts...

I have a 14.5 inch upper that I'm getting a pinned flash hider for.

Must it be pinned?

I know this is federal so has anyone ever been charged for this if not pinned?

Is it also illegal in Massachusetts if the flash hider can accept a suppressor?
Lol somehow the feds would see that as constructive intent but in the grand scheme of things, who cares? I had an unpinned 14.5 AK receiver hanging around my house for a few weeks before sending it off to be threaded and pinned. I didn't lose sleep over it.
 
Imo if a LEO is taking a wrench to your rifle to check if something is permanent, your in a world of hurt.

How permanent is permanent? I'm sure i could shear a pin, what about red loctite?
Rocksett is better for muzzle devices. "Permanent" till you dip it in water lol.
 
Imo if a LEO is taking a wrench to your rifle to check if something is permanent, your in a world of hurt.

How permanent is permanent? I'm sure i could shear a pin, what about red loctite?
I really don’t think you could shear a pin without major damage

I had an old bushmaster it had 2 pins at 90 degrees and was welded…
 
Lol somehow the feds would see that as constructive intent but in the grand scheme of things, who cares? I had an unpinned 14.5 AK receiver hanging around my house for a few weeks before sending it off to be threaded and pinned. I didn't lose sleep over it.
People got killed in Idaho by the feds for a shotgun that was .25" short without any tax being paid to the King.

Back the blue!
 
Lol somehow the feds would see that as constructive intent but in the grand scheme of things, who cares? I had an unpinned 14.5 AK receiver hanging around my house for a few weeks before sending it off to be threaded and pinned. I didn't lose sleep over it.
You did send it off to be threaded and pinned.

Would you be concerned if it was unpinned forever?

In my case, if I remove the muzzle brake and put on a flash hider - the OAL (Overall length) is still 16".
It's just not pinned until I decide to take it to a gunsmith.
 
Good Lord!

I just called a couple gunsmiths.

They are backed up for many weeks.

It cost $200 for the job. It must be pinned, tapered, and welded.

F THAT!!!

I'm going to keep my muzzle brake on this upper and just go buy a brand new upper that already has a legally pinned and welded flash hider.

For the $200 I'll save and all the time - it's like I'm getting $200 off the price of a new upper.

Crisis averted!!!

OP NOT GOING TO JAIL!!!

EDIT:

Here is another point!!!

For $200 I can get a tax stamp on the lower and not even have to worry about having less than 16" - I can then have a 14.5" Upper with a flash hider or not!!!
 
Good Lord!

I just called a couple gunsmiths.

They are backed up for many weeks.

It cost $200 for the job. It must be pinned, tapered, and welded.

F THAT!!!

I'm going to keep my muzzle brake on this upper and just go buy a brand new upper that already has a legally pinned and welded flash hider.

For the $200 I'll save and all the time - it's like I'm getting $200 off the price of a new upper.

Crisis averted!!!

OP NOT GOING TO JAIL!!!

EDIT:

Here is another point!!!

For $200 I can get a tax stamp on the lower and not even have to worry about having less than 16" - I can then have a 14.5" Upper with a flash hider or not!!!
This is the most new guy post ever
 
$200 to pin and weld a flash hider?

That's pretty much at the out the place that's trying to Rapetile you level lol
Well, at least he answered the phone right away.

Beggars can't be choosers and I'm not driving 2 hours or spending days to get a response.

I don't want to out the shop because they are local and I might need their services in a pinch.
 
The problem is not likely a field check by LEO, but rather when you find yourself in an "they are out to get you" mode.

If you are involved in a 100% legit defensive shooting in MA as a trigger puller, all your guns will immediately be confiscated while the system sorts things out. In a best case scenario, you will eventually get them back and only pay a few tens of $K for an attorney to look out for your interests while the investigation plays out. That's best case.

You can count on the police and prosecution going through every one of the confiscated items looking for some charges they can pile on - even if the shooting itself does not result in charges. DAs and ADAs like wins, and loathe letting someone go without getting at least a few ounces of flesh.

A removeable attachment on a barrel that can put you into unregistered SBR territory means the state can force a plea bargain on you. Sure, you'll talk tough about defeding it until they threaten a federal referral and your attorney points out that (a) you are guilty, and (b) the feds almost always sentence NFA violators to prison time, even absent any previous record (but it moves you into a lower box on the federal sentencing matrix).

At the minimum, you should get a NFA registration to cover the federal end of things.
 
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