Has anyone ever been charged for having an unpinned muzzle device on a 14.5 inch upper if the OAL was still 16 inches?

[whatluck]

 

[Varmint]

Why do folks bother with pin and weld anyway? If it's at all inconvenient to p&w, then just buy an oxy mapp torch at Home Depot and some 1100 silver solder and take a few minutes to silver solder the brake or FH on. Can also remove without grinding out a pin too should you decide to change.

I’m less likely to burn my house down going the pin and weld route. My BCM 14.5” upper came with super loud brake already attached, so house is intact.

 

[Reptile]

Is the OP claiming he has an SBR that hes running a 14.5 inch on?

I have an SBR.

I also have a 14.5 inch upper for that SBR.

I want to pin a 1.5 inch muzzle device on said upper so I can put it on a rifle. At that point it would be 16".

In the mean time, I can legally own an upper of any length since I already have a SBR (with a NFA Tax Stamp). So, I can legally own an upper shorter than 16" because it goes on my SBR.

 

[G4Y4HK]

I have an SBR.

I also have a 14.5 inch upper for that SBR.

I want to pin a 1.5 inch muzzle device on said upper so I can put it on a rifle. At that point it would be 16".

In the mean time, I can legally own an upper of any length since I already have a SBR (with a NFA Tax Stamp). So, I can legally own an upper shorter than 16" because it goes on my SBR.

Years ago my LTC class instructor guy said if you want to buy complete short uppers, make sure to have enough complete 16+ inch uppers and/or complete guns to stay legal of 'constructive possession' shenanigans. For example - you can have 4 complete AR rifles and a couple extra SBR/pistol uppers, no big deal. When you have 2 complete rifles, 2 complete rifle lowers-only and also have SBR/pistol length uppers, even if you pinky swear you've never put the two pins in just to even check out what it would look like for a second, no tax stamp... insta-prison.

 

[Reptile]

Years ago my LTC class instructor guy said if you want to buy complete short uppers, make sure to have enough complete 16+ inch uppers and/or complete guns to stay legal of 'constructive possession' shenanigans. For example - you can have 4 complete AR rifles and a couple extra SBR/pistol uppers, no big deal. When you have 2 complete rifles, 2 complete rifle lowers-only and also have SBR/pistol length uppers, even if you pinky swear you've never put the two pins in just to even check out what it would look like for a second, no tax stamp... insta-prison.

I would never break the law but has anyone ever been charged for constructive intent for owning a fewer tax stamps than short lowers?

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Years ago my LTC class instructor guy said if you want to buy complete short uppers, make sure to have enough complete 16+ inch uppers and/or complete guns to stay legal of 'constructive possession' shenanigans. For example - you can have 4 complete AR rifles and a couple extra SBR/pistol uppers, no big deal. When you have 2 complete rifles, 2 complete rifle lowers-only and also have SBR/pistol length uppers, even if you pinky swear you've never put the two pins in just to even check out what it would look like for a second, no tax stamp... insta-prison.

"LTC class instructor" does not make one an expert or authority figure.

 

[G4Y4HK]

"LTC class instructor" does not make one an expert or authority figure.

Was that wrong information though? It's like a 3rd grade math question - if daddy has 2 complete AR rifles, 3 rifle lowers, 1 pistol lower, and two spare 11.5 inch uppers, how many total years of federal prison does daddy have to sit?

 

[Varmint]

Was that wrong information though? It's like a 3rd grade math question - if daddy has 2 complete AR rifles, 3 rifle lowers, 1 pistol lower, and two spare 11.5 inch uppers, how many total years of federal prison does daddy have to sit?

Again this is something they would try to tack on to a serious federal offense. Just avoid doing the latter.

 

[Dench]

I have an SBR.

I also have a 14.5 inch upper for that SBR.

I want to pin a 1.5 inch muzzle device on said upper so I can put it on a rifle. At that point it would be 16".

In the mean time, I can legally own an upper of any length since I already have a SBR (with a NFA Tax Stamp). So, I can legally own an upper shorter than 16" because it goes on my SBR.

You probably should just sell all of that stuff

 

[Lxpony]

I have an SBR.

I also have a 14.5 inch upper for that SBR.

I want to pin a 1.5 inch muzzle device on said upper so I can put it on a rifle. At that point it would be 16".

In the mean time, I can legally own an upper of any length since I already have a SBR (with a NFA Tax Stamp). So, I can legally own an upper shorter than 16" because it goes on my SBR.

You have an sbr? That's cute. I remember my first. Move out of your mom's basement. Maybe you'll have room to get another one.

 

[Reptile]

You probably should just sell all of that stuff

Why?

I get enjoyment from collecting parts - not necessarily guns.

 

[Tartakovsky]

Was that wrong information though? It's like a 3rd grade math question - if daddy has 2 complete AR rifles, 3 rifle lowers, 1 pistol lower, and two spare 11.5 inch uppers, how many total years of federal prison does daddy have to sit?

Well, if you are caught transporting an unstamped lower and short barrel upper together, that’s one thing. On the other hand, the ATF got its ass kicked in US v. Thompson Center when they tried to prosecute for constructive possession/selling illegal SBRs.

 

[G4Y4HK]

Well, if you are caught transporting a unstamped lower and short barrel upper together, that’s one thing. On the other hand, the ATF got its ass kicked in US v. Thompson Center when they tried to prosecute for constructive possession/selling illegal SBRs.

What about all these 15-24 yr old black boys in Chicago with switch glocks? Are the ATF going after em and getting them in the mandatory 10 year minimum?

 

[Tartakovsky]

What about all these 15-24 yr old black boys in Chicago with switch glocks? Are the ATF going after em and getting them in the mandatory 10 year minimum?

I get the sense that neither the ATF nor the Chicago PD are going after any of the hoodrats with Glock switches. f*** that place.