The “plan” is to turn everyone into felons-in-waiting. They don’t need people to turn any in. They just need to be able to ding any gun owner who owns an assault weapon if they happen to have any sort of police interaction whatsoever.
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MA Gun Grab 2024: H.4885 - Passed legislature, headed to the governor
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Ok.
I still think they will offer grandfathering.
I don’t think there are any other states that never had grandfathering with registration.
Only 1% complied but they still offered.
Are you saying he’s a size queen?
namedpipes
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Grandfathering is a bribe for the peons not to rebel. Reject the bribe.
We all have rights that cannot be taken away. These rights include life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Governments are created to protect these rights and get their power from the people they govern. If a government becomes harmful to these rights, the people have the right to change or remove it and create a new government that will better serve them. It’s important to be careful when changing a long-standing government, but if it becomes clear that the government is working against the best interests of the citizenry, the people have the right and duty to overthrow it and create a new government that will protect them.
I just don't see how the State of Mass is working in your best interests. I suspect that sooner or later, this is going to become a real issue for Mass to deal with.
chris_1001
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I do hope so, but I'm not holding my breath
Tallahassee
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You can give them to me if you'd like.
There were neutered post-94 AK variants a plenty in MA.
What’s available now?
mothybee
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DAMN! I just threw my 4 in the dumpster at Market Basket.
chris_1001
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You forgot about my no questions asked turn in service in this or another thread...
Tallahassee
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You're full of it. I check the dumpster at ghetto basket every time I go there. It was just the usual rubbish as always.
Tallahassee
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I don't ask questions, complicates things. Just offering assistance if you choose to go down that path.
Just because they were plentiful, doesn’t mean they were legal
EJFudd
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Deranged leftist DimocRATS wipe their ass with a copy of the US Constitution. You think old sour Creem and Maura do any different?
namedpipes
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Why in hell would you want his breaths?
FFLs/dealers were openly selling them
If they weren’t legal, they would have been shut down.
Example: Four Seasons from a 2005 and 2015. The deli ticket emporium doesn’t sell questionable guns, and that’s a whole 10 year span of selling them. MA would have noticed if they were openly selling an illegal gun.
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This.
They operate by fear. They have no intention of lifting a finger to enforce any of this. They know most gun owners will comply, just because most MA gun owners tend to be law-abiding people. Those of us who won't comply? They're not worried about; they know we don't impact crime stats. So they'll just let us keep noncomplying unless we do something that'll make it hard for them to ignore us.
At that point, they have a choice to make: keep on ignoring us, thus tacitly admitting that their law sucked? Or prosecute us and risk the courts overturning everything they've done?
Either way, I like that outcome.
Not much of a risk tbh. All of the courts here in MA will gladly uphold all of these anti-2A restrictions because the courts themselves were anti-2A.
It's not the state courts I assume they'd be concerned about.
It’s not the state courts that I’m talking about either. Whether it’s state or federal, we’re screwed either way.
Well, ignoring the past, look at today. FS is advertising a MA compliant Sig MCX and Tavor (I believe Maura's press conference explicitly said Tavor's were acceptable) on their home page today. Is the current take that they would or would not be allowed under the new bill as currently printed?FFLs/dealers were openly selling them
If they weren’t legal, they would have been shut down.
Example: Four Seasons from a 2005 and 2015. The deli ticket emporium doesn’t sell questionable guns, and that’s a whole 10 year span of selling them. MA would have noticed if they were openly selling an illegal gun.
Would not be allowed. Once an assault weapon, always an assault weapon.
It also mentions copies and duplicates of Colt-AR 15. Therefore all AR15.
413guy
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I wasn’t sure how I felt about it.
First glance I went; self, really? really 1 PM on a Sunday, during football season, midday, when most people either won’t even hear about it, or will be preoccupied with other things. Then my mind went into negative Nancy 413dan mode “ then he will be able to say though I had a time and place where I was available for public comment but no one showed…”
That annoyed me and I browsed the GOAL summary again, and wrote down some notes of contention…
As I was sitting there, I remembered how I am working on not letting things outside of my control or that I do not fully have all the information about, work me up.
It was at this point I remembered again, my life is relatively good, why am I letting these people personally affect my mood, screw them, and I felt much better.
It's BS they are not having more public comment sessions.
It doesn’t do him or me, or anyone else on this site for that matter(not a dig at you specifically Broc),to be perpetually in an echo chamber.
It is doubtful hearts or minds were swayed, but without dialogue, we certainly won’t get anywhere.
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btnh6668
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Im sure the massachusetts appointment judge would agree.
Agnotology
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.... and I just picked up my first AR this past thursday [ in 2016 if you are reading this maura]
well, I know what I am doing with mine if this comes to pass.
well, I know what I am doing with mine if this comes to pass.
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