MA Gun Grab 2024: H.4885 - Passed legislature, headed to the governor

[not new guy]

That was my first thought. Evil features galore pre 8/1, right?

 

[drgrant]

Nothing left for dealers to sell online as we cannot import LCFD or AWs. So guns that other states want, we cannot bring into the state.

As written distributors/wholesalers in MA are out of business. Anyone who is in business to gunbrokering stuff or otherwise selling online is also toast.

Massive hit to all dealers in that they have to register the guns to their business within 7 days of guns arriving. So no guns will be in the state anywhere that the state is unaware of (yes, that is tongue in cheek because we all know that the people committing crimes will pay no attention to this)

So there's additional state reporting BS for dealers on this bill, too? Bastards.

 

[chris_1001]

That was my first thought. Evil features galore pre 8/1, right?

Hope so!

Gonna fire up my Dremel if so!

 

[Rob Boudrie]

So how are we supposed to know what the state has a record of? Should we all call on Friday around 2 PM and request copies of our records?

I believe it is done by mail at a charge to the LTC holder of $25.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Don't care. Grandfathered. Could have been worse.

I was changing a flat tire recently.
I thought of Igor saying "could be worse, could be raining".
Then it started to rain.

But "could be worse" does not erase the suck.

 

[Coyote33]

I believe it is done by mail at a charge to the LTC holder of $25.

Wait, you have to pay $25 to see what they are illegally keeping track of in a database?

From:

MA Gun Grab 2024: H.4885 - Passed legislature, headed to the governor

By that much. Ok Maxwell.

www.northeastshooters.com

, we get:

18 U.S. Code § 926 - Rules and regulations

www.law.cornell.edu

18 U.S. Code § 926 - Rules and regulations​

The Act also forbade the U.S. Government agency from keeping a registry directly linking non-National Firearms Act firearms to their owners, the specific language of this law (Federal Law 18 U.S.C. 926) being:

No such rule or regulation prescribed [by the Attorney General] after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary's authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.

There it is.

Nevertheless, at one point the ATF's National Tracing Center (NTC) contained hundreds of millions of firearm tracing and registration records, and consisted of several databases; but as of May 2016, many of these databases have been deleted to fall inline with record deletion requirements, per the Government Accountability Office (GAO).[17]

Wow. So, should the whole thing that they are proposing also be deleted from these bills, to "fall inline with record deletion requirements"? The Mass legislature and senate don't want to be breaking the law with their new proposals.

 

[chris_1001]

Wait, you have to pay $25 to see what they are illegally keeping track of in a database?

MA Gun Grab 2024: H.4885 - Passed legislature, headed to the governor

By that much. Ok Maxwell.

www.northeastshooters.com

No. They released the records a few years ago.

Go find the zip file and do some digging.

 

[drgrant]

That was my first thought. Evil features galore pre 8/1, right?

Well the alternative is they have five weird piles of shit that will be even more confusing and unenforceable. I mean we're literally at the point of 150% clown world levels if this passes without a total grandfather. "Oh that rifle is post ban, post healey but its pre 8/1/zanzibar! " nobody's going to keep track of that shit especially if the law doesn't destroy or null out some of the old garbage in the process.

 

[MaroonedinMA]

Hope so!

Gonna fire up my Dremel if so!

What on earth will you be doing to that poor rife with a Dremel?

 

[AJK129]

What on earth will you be doing to that poor rife with a Dremel?

Doubling the rifling

 

[chris_1001]

What on earth will you be doing to that poor rife with a Dremel?

Gonna undo what might have been done…

 

[Coyote33]

I don't know who or where, but somewhere in this thread, I thought I read that they were not allowed to change the language of this(these) bill(s). It had to take and use only the language in either the house and/or senate version.

Anybody else remember seeing or saying this?

 

[not new guy]

I’m going to be rich when I cash in on all that reclaimed scrap silver solder.

 

[Coyote33]

Doubling the rifling

That'll show 'em!

 

[Marty McFly]

What on earth will you be doing to that poor rife with a Dremel?

Ungrind the bayo lug!

 

[chris_1001]

Doubling the rifling

I heard if you cut a cross in the crown of the muzzle the bullets get scored and explosively split on impact.

Try it!

 

[chris_1001]

Ungrind the bayo lug!

lol. JB weld it back on!

 

[Marty McFly]

I heard if you cut a cross in the crown of the muzzle the bullets get scored and explosively split on impact.

Try it!

Shot-rifle!

 

[chris_1001]

That'll show 'em!

Right? Can’t wait! Take that Mura!

 

[chris_1001]

Shot-rifle!

It makes dum dum bullets automatically

 

[1903Collector]

After taking all this in tonight I'm simultaneously bullshit pissed off and laughing my ass off not giving a f*** anymore.

 

[MaroonedinMA]

Gonna undo what might have been done…

RIght then, don't forget the router.

 

[chris_1001]

RIght then, don't forget the router.

Router go brrrrrrr…

 

[Picton]

Gonna undo what might have been done…

Yes. It's what can be, unburdened by what has been.

 

[AJK129]

There was a line about making 3d printers that advertise as making guns illegal. I didnt see anything about injection molds though?

 

[drgrant]

After taking all this in tonight I simultaneously bullshit pissed off and laughing my ass off not giving a f*** anymore.

"*sees @1903Collector walking confidently towards that bridge i was talking about* "

 

[1903Collector]

There was a line about making 3d printers that advertise as making guns illegal. I didnt see anything about injection molds though?

What about shovels?

 

[MAJoe]

I don't know who or where, but somewhere in this thread, I thought I read that they were not allowed to change the language of this(these) bill(s). It had to take and use only the language in either the house and/or senate version.

Anybody else remember seeing or saying this?

I remember saying that, but I was parroting what I thought I had read before and it doesn’t appear correct.

 

[Woodsloafer]

Gonna undo what might have been done…

Should have never done it in the first place - have many people have been charged with unpinned brakes or stocks for that matter.

 

[chris_1001]

There was a line about making 3d printers that advertise as making guns illegal. I didnt see anything about injection molds though?

Or the mill that was designed to machine 80’s.