MaverickNH
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Wait until he starts PMing you his questions…
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Maryland AWB case Snope v Brown going to SCOTUS. (Formerly Bianchi v Brown & Bianchi v Frosh)
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Looks like, once again, no Snope or Ocean State in today's Orders List. 
shocker.... maybe 10th time is the charm.
Lokdog
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And the cowards strike again!!!
Cap'n Mike
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Trying to be an optimist, the chances of Cert being denied at this point are small, and get smaller with every relist.
Lokdog
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It amazes me how weak, ineffective and impotent the 4th, 9th and now the 1st circuit make the Supreme Court look. Especially with the 4th and 9th because the Supreme Court told them they got it wrong and to try again and both said Nah, go pound sand and by the way, what are you going to do about it? As it stands now, absolutely nothing
What difference does it make between if they granted cert today vs the last time before the term ends?
Yeah, it's pretty f***ing annoying.
This is what happens, I think, when the Chief is not an RKBA absolutist. He's got to be the one driving this train. So it seems he's torn between ensuring the primacy of SCOTUS (which he ought to care about) and having to grant fuller RKBA, which he appears skittish about.
He's waiting for something. I'm not sure what.
waits for the time for them to be irrelevant again.
The Usual Suspect
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They may not be waiting, but in deliberation over hairsplitting.
VTski4x4
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If they deny cert at this point, I see CW2.0 starting.
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Unfortunately, this really only affects a dozen states or so and then only “X” number of people in those states who care about the 2A. The majority of this country lives much freer with RTKABA.
VTski4x4
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Have you not been paying attention to ME, CO, etc? This will 100% embolden lefties in free-er states to come down with the tyranny hammer.
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Still a minority of states. Yes, the moonbats are gaining ground in once protected places but a minority nonetheless.
they will deny, and nothing will be started, they know that, and they simply do not give 2 shits about any of this.
they have a higher calling to serve. like who will employ their offsprings in what NGOs as all gets closed and all is so bad now, so they are all pissed.
My suspicion at this point is they are waiting for Duncan v Bonta to apply for cert. Then they can take that and Snope, have an AWB and a mag case on final judgement to play with for next term and kick ocean state out to likely GVR after they decide Snope and Duncan. It could be any of a dozen other things too, but that feels like decent reasoning as to why they are kicking this can over and over right now.
pastera
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If they grant Cert now, every single related case in the circuits immediately stalls
That could actually hurt us
sjohnston0311
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Why then wouldn't they do the same thing but with Ocean State instead of Duncan? Are the two cases significantly different?
Very different. Ocean state is at the injunction stage. Has not been argued in the lower courts yet and so there is no judgement to appeal, just an attempt to stop enforcement before the case is heard. Duncan has been through the district court, 9th circuit appeal and an en banc appeal. It is totally final and the last stop for that case is the supreme court. They don't usually like to rule on things that have not been through the lower courts and appeals yet.
pastera
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I believe Duncan has more history so they get to wordsmith an opinion
The third case mentioned as being distributed for conference (relisted) is Antonyuk v. James. The questions in the petition for that case are:
1. Whether the proper historical time period for ascertaining the Second Amendment’s original meaning as applied to the states is 1791, rather than 1868; and
2. Whether “the people” must convince government officials of their “good moral character” before exercising their Second Amendment right to bear arms.
CW2.0 already started. One side is trying to put their political rivals in prison, attacking businesses, fire bombing, assaulting people and destroying their property.
The other side thinks they can vote themselves out of a civil war.
The other side thinks they can vote themselves out of a civil war.
It seems awfully long to draft a dissent on cert denial. I understand Mark's expertise in this field, but we're about to enter month 4 of relists. Maybe they're granting but Sotomayor, Kagan, and Brown-Jackson are writing a dissent on cert grant?
Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but it would make more sense to rule per curiam on Snope and then GVR OST in light of Snope.
However, I am willing to bet they are splitting the baby on the Snope per curiam, to get Brown-Jackson, Sotomayor, Kagan, and (probably) Roberts to sign off on it.
Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but it would make more sense to rule per curiam on Snope and then GVR OST in light of Snope.
However, I am willing to bet they are splitting the baby on the Snope per curiam, to get Brown-Jackson, Sotomayor, Kagan, and (probably) Roberts to sign off on it.
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I'm not sure I've ever seen a dissent on a grant of cert.
What sort of odds would you like?
So, 24% of States and millions of people = no big deal. GOT IT.
I bet, without looking, that "minority of States" represents a disproportionate amount of the American citizens.
How it all starts. Pay attention.
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Math - Pay attention
24% = minority
Never said “no big deal”
Didn’t “just start”
Are you menstruating today?
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