Navy "intelligence"

Or maybe "we mounted the optic wrong" is a less humiliating thing to admit than "we photoshopped the optic?"

I dunno. All this crap is why I stick to irons.
I would have thought it was photoshopped (does the USN even issue VCOGs?), but the apology has me thinking it was an enlisted guy playing a prank and everyone had a good laugh, even the Skipper, until PR decided to post it.
 
And this is why the Navy lets the Marines do the actual fighting.

Sailors are just Uber drivers for Jarheads. Once they deliver Marines, they can go back to bitching that they want longer hot showers and better desserts in the chow hall.
What an embarrassment.

All true but we have to hide the crayons.😉
 
I would have thought it was photoshopped (does the USN even issue VCOGs?), but the apology has me thinking it was an enlisted guy playing a prank and everyone had a good laugh, even the Skipper, until PR decided to post it.
I suspect it's real. People in the military can be pretty clueless. I can remember 20 years ago when I completely forgot how to open a m203. It's not even complicated. Just forgot and had no clue. Same when we changed over to the new molle stuff. They just handed it to me and I hung it all on my gear wrong simply because I had no idea how to properly attach it.

The trick is not to take photos of stupid shit. We made sure we were squared away for photos for a lot of reasons.

I doubt the navy does quality training with vcogs. Looking at the grip on that rifle it's already fairly obvious they don't have a clue in general. Training issue. Don't take photos till you figure it out, dummies.
 
I suspect it's real. People in the military can be pretty clueless. I can remember 20 years ago when I completely forgot how to open a m203. It's not even complicated. Just forgot and had no clue. Same when we changed over to the new molle stuff. They just handed it to me and I hung it all on my gear wrong simply because I had no idea how to properly attach it.

The trick is not to take photos of stupid shit. We made sure we were squared away for photos for a lot of reasons.

I've long been happy I served before smartphones.

Joe was a reckless idiot in the late '90s; I can't imagine what an animal he is with a video camera and access to the internet.
 
Yaste briefly became an unwitting social media topic when McCain officials released a photo of him firing an M-4 rifle from the ship with the optic mounted backward.
Cmdr. Cameron Yaste was featured by the U.S. Navy’s official Instagram account in a photo of him firing an M-4 from the USS John S. McCain in April, 2024. The optical site on the rifle is installed backwards, a mistake noted widely on social media and which prompted the Navy to remove the photo.
“The Navy holds commanding officers to the highest standards and holds them accountable when those standards are not met. Naval leaders are entrusted with significant responsibilities to their Sailors and their ships,” the Navy said in a release.
 

I certainly hope that picture wasn’t a factor. Maybe it was just an indicator of his awareness and attention to detail in general, but the Navy has a habit of firing commanders for silly reasons. Sometimes good reasons… but sometimes silly ones.
 
He was almost a year into his tour, having been XO for... I dunno, 18 months?

I wonder what he did...
 
I certainly hope that picture wasn’t a factor. Maybe it was just an indicator of his awareness and attention to detail in general, but the Navy has a habit of firing commanders for silly reasons. Sometimes good reasons… but sometimes silly ones.

This is just my opinion, but anyone that puts an optic on backwards, uses it that way and does not realize there is a problem probably suffers from deficiencies in a multitude of areas.
 
This is just my opinion, but anyone that puts an optic on backwards, uses it that way and does not realize there is a problem probably suffers from deficiencies in a multitude of areas.

He most likely did not put the optic on. He was probably handed the rifle and told to go shoot it. The only other times he may have shot a rifle may have been with irons or a red dot.
 
Probably made the Navy look bad in a very public way.

I usually assume it's something sexual, like he's screwing someone in the crew. Who knows?

This is just my opinion, but anyone that puts an optic on backwards, uses it that way and does not realize there is a problem probably suffers from deficiencies in a multitude of areas.

If you've never handled an optic before and they're not a part of your life, then is it really a "deficiency" if you don't know how they mount?

His training is in handling big ships and leading big crews, not small arms optics. To be fair, it seems he must not be all that great at those other things either, given that he's now been fired, but still.

Like I've admitted in this thread already, unless someone had pointed out the problem to me? I wouldn't have known it was backward in the photo. And I've been shooting steadily since 1993 or so. I just don't usually use optics, and I'm not used to glancing at them and knowing how they're supposed to look. It's not a deficiency; it's just a different set of experiences and training.
 
“According to an online bio, Yaste is a native of Knoxville, Tennessee. He joined the Navy after graduating from The Citadel through Naval ROTC in 2006.”

Not long after commissioning ( via OCS) an officer said to me “I’ve never met a Citadel graduate worth the powder to blow him to hell.” Personal experience confirmed that view.

So he had a good run by comparison.
 
I certainly hope that picture wasn’t a factor. Maybe it was just an indicator of his awareness and attention to detail in general, but the Navy has a habit of firing commanders for silly reasons. Sometimes good reasons… but sometimes silly ones.
So as mentioned above, less than a year into his command he gets fired and while on deployment which would seem to suggest it was something fairly serious. From the story at the link above:

“The Navy fired the commanding officer of the USS John S. McCain for what it termed “a loss of confidence in his ability to command the guided-missile destroyer.”

Cmdr. Cameron Yaste, who has commanded the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer since October 2023, was relieved of command during its current deployment in the Middle East, where it has been operating since April while assigned to the U.S. Fifth Fleet.”

Now a question for all you Navy guys, is relieving commanders every year a common thing, historically? I ask because going to that link and reading the story, at the bottom are links to additional stories. Without leaving that page, I noted 9 other similar stories all within the last year:

Navy fires captain of ship that ran aground in Africa /Jul 8 2024

Navy fires USS Somerset’s commanding officer following investigation /Jun 7 2024

Navy captain relieved for ‘loss of confidence’ following investigation /Apr 5 2024

Navy fires captain of USS Ohio guided missile submarine /Mar 13 2024

Navy fires commodore of destroyer squadron for ‘loss of confidence’ /Feb 10 2024

Navy fires captain of a destroyer for ‘loss of confidence’ /Feb 6 2024

Navy fires commander of E/A-18G squadron for ‘loss of confidence’ /Dec 22 2023

Navy fires head of Amphibious Squadron 5 for ‘loss of confidence’ /Dec 2 2023

Captain of missile submarine USS Alabama fired for ‘loss of confidence’ /Sep 25 2023


Getting canned for running the ship aground makes sense but all these others?
 
So as mentioned above, less than a year into his command he gets fired and while on deployment which would seem to suggest it was something fairly serious. From the story at the link above:

“The Navy fired the commanding officer of the USS John S. McCain for what it termed “a loss of confidence in his ability to command the guided-missile destroyer.”

Cmdr. Cameron Yaste, who has commanded the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer since October 2023, was relieved of command during its current deployment in the Middle East, where it has been operating since April while assigned to the U.S. Fifth Fleet.”

Now a question for all you Navy guys, is relieving commanders every year a common thing, historically? I ask because going to that link and reading the story, at the bottom are links to additional stories. Without leaving that page, I noted 9 other similar stories all within the last year:

Navy fires captain of ship that ran aground in Africa /Jul 8 2024

Navy fires USS Somerset’s commanding officer following investigation /Jun 7 2024

Navy captain relieved for ‘loss of confidence’ following investigation /Apr 5 2024

Navy fires captain of USS Ohio guided missile submarine /Mar 13 2024

Navy fires commodore of destroyer squadron for ‘loss of confidence’ /Feb 10 2024

Navy fires captain of a destroyer for ‘loss of confidence’ /Feb 6 2024

Navy fires commander of E/A-18G squadron for ‘loss of confidence’ /Dec 22 2023

Navy fires head of Amphibious Squadron 5 for ‘loss of confidence’ /Dec 2 2023

Captain of missile submarine USS Alabama fired for ‘loss of confidence’ /Sep 25 2023


Getting canned for running the ship aground makes sense but all these others?

And when they find that duplicate key, they’ll find who stole the strawberries!
 
Now a question for all you Navy guys, is relieving commanders every year a common thing, historically? I ask because going to that link and reading the story, at the bottom are links to additional stories. Without leaving that page, I noted 9 other similar stories all within the last year:

Navy fires captain of ship that ran aground in Africa /Jul 8 2024

Navy fires USS Somerset’s commanding officer following investigation /Jun 7 2024

Navy captain relieved for ‘loss of confidence’ following investigation /Apr 5 2024

Navy fires captain of USS Ohio guided missile submarine /Mar 13 2024

Navy fires commodore of destroyer squadron for ‘loss of confidence’ /Feb 10 2024

Navy fires captain of a destroyer for ‘loss of confidence’ /Feb 6 2024

Navy fires commander of E/A-18G squadron for ‘loss of confidence’ /Dec 22 2023

Navy fires head of Amphibious Squadron 5 for ‘loss of confidence’ /Dec 2 2023

Captain of missile submarine USS Alabama fired for ‘loss of confidence’ /Sep 25 2023


Getting canned for running the ship aground makes sense but all these others?

They never do say, publicly.

That's part of why I assume it's sexual, or in some other way moral (not professional). It's possible the Navy is routinely giving ships to captains who cannot handle them safely, but I think that's unlikely; I think it's more probable that they have other sorts of problems.
 
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