Overheard at the airport

[whacko]

Guys sitting at a bar talking about committing a crime is generally not considered a crime. There would need to be concrete evidence of a plan, connections and how it would all go down.

Yeah well it's worse than that.....what those 2 were discussing wasn't even a crime. They were discussing using an ffl at each end of the transfer

 

[whacko]

He sat down, ordered a Jack and Coke, was gone in about 60 seconds, then ordered another, ordered a salad, finished 2nd, got 3rd, salad came, 3rd drink gone, glass of water, 4th Jack and Coke, asked for another water, water came, 4th gone, 5th ordered, water gone, 5th delivered, water replaced, both water and 5th are gone, 6th ordered with a fresh water, both delivered, then the badge drop happened, he finished his 6th and the water, paid the tab, walked across the hall to a flight to Fargo.

He never got up to hit the restroom drinking all that? f***.....I'd have had to wring the mitten at least 4 times drinking all that.

I'm not stranger to hitting up the "Irish sleeping medicine" before a long flight but I drink burboun neat so I don't habe to get up to piss 18 times during the flight

 

[TJ4]

That aft agent in the Karen read trial spoke of numerous occasions where he was at least 6 whiskeys deep before heading home and making himself 2 or 3 more drinks, so that’s the least surprising part of the story.

 

[LakeTrout]

He sat down, ordered a Jack and Coke, was gone in about 60 seconds, then ordered another, ordered a salad, finished 2nd, got 3rd, salad came, 3rd drink gone, glass of water, 4th Jack and Coke, asked for another water, water came, 4th gone, 5th ordered, water gone, 5th delivered, water replaced, both water and 5th are gone, 6th ordered with a fresh water, both delivered, then the badge drop happened, he finished his 6th and the water, paid the tab, walked across the hall to a flight to Fargo.

That’s crazy. I wonder what the background in the dude actually is.

 

[pewpewpew]

He sat down, ordered a Jack and Coke, was gone in about 60 seconds, then ordered another, ordered a salad, finished 2nd, got 3rd, salad came, 3rd drink gone, glass of water, 4th Jack and Coke, asked for another water, water came, 4th gone, 5th ordered, water gone, 5th delivered, water replaced, both water and 5th are gone, 6th ordered with a fresh water, both delivered, then the badge drop happened, he finished his 6th and the water, paid the tab, walked across the hall to a flight to Fargo.

How fat?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Coda]

Maybe this guy wasn't actually FBI, maybe he was ATF instead.............


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfqwMQ5DNVQ&ab_channel=CBSMiami

 

[Dadstoys]

Nothing resembling a straw purchase.
Exactly the quality of person you would expect from the worst three letter agency in the world.
Scumbags , deviants and murderers.

 

[HorizontalHunter]

That’s crazy. I wonder what the background in the dude actually is.

Probably retired and making a few extra bucks by Air Marshalling

 

[Darksideblues42]

How fat?

Inquiring minds want to know.

6 feet (ish) late 40's, probably close to 275-300 Basically built not that different from me, a brick shithouse.

 

[kingfisher]

Wait. There was no transaction.

I can tell all you guys to buy up M60 machine guns, and ship them to my FFL, and all I've done is spewed word salad. Until the actual transaction takes place, no law has been broken.

Is there a conspiracy to commit straw purchases law?

I agree. I'm just saying that the reaction to any cop who's drinking and then "drops an ATF badge on the bar" should be laughed at, and any orders given should not be complied with.

Actually, it sounds to me like this could have been someone trying to play a joke, and he may not have been a cop at all.

At least that's the way I'd treat him.

 

[VTski4x4]

The bartender served that dude 6 Jack and cokes in 2 hours? I don’t know what the standard is for serving but that seems like a lot for an airport bar. Maybe he’s there regularly and they know he’s not driving.

To be fair - airport drinks are weak AF compared to the dives the locals go to. I've known business professionals who start their morning with more booze than 6 airport drinks. All the bars in Marblehead serve their drinks in pint glasses, with liquor almost to the rim. Splash of mixer.

 

[Masswhole]

To be fair - airport drinks are weak AF compared to the dives the locals go to. I've known business professionals who start their morning with more booze than 6 airport drinks. All the bars in Marblehead serve their drinks in pint glasses, with liquor almost to the rim. Splash of mixer.

Desire for a Maddies run intensifies....

 

[steve8140]

Only a straw purchase if guy #1 is purchasing the gun on behalf of guy #2 who couldn’t legally purchase it for himself.

Trying to find hard to find or collectors items and having them shipped to any FFL to be legally transferred to someone is not a straw purchase.

Cop is a fag and hope his job and entire agency become obsolete very soon.

 

[VTski4x4]

Desire for a Maddies run intensifies....

I'll meet you down there - you can drink, I'll eat. I grew up 300yds as the crow flies from there - my absolute go-to back in the day

 

[LakeTrout]

To be fair - airport drinks are weak AF compared to the dives the locals go to. I've known business professionals who start their morning with more booze than 6 airport drinks. All the bars in Marblehead serve their drinks in pint glasses, with liquor almost to the rim. Splash of mixer.

Almost a pint of liquor per drink?

 

[Masswhole]

I'll meet you down there - you can drink, I'll eat. I grew up 300yds as the crow flies from there - my absolute go-to back in the day

I will hit you up next time I’m in town.
Not much of a drinker these days but enjoyed taking my son there on his 21st.
Lots of great memories of that place, truly one of a kind.

 

[Darksideblues42]

Only a straw purchase if guy #1 is purchasing the gun on behalf of guy #2 who couldn’t legally purchase it for himself.

Trying to find hard to find or collectors items and having them shipped to any FFL to be legally transferred to someone is not a straw purchase.

Cop is a fag and hope his job and entire agency become obsolete very soon.

Abramski v United States would like to have a word with you.

"Abramski's false statement was material because had he revealed that he was purchasing the gun on Alvarez's behalf, the sale could not have proceeded under the law—even though Alvarez turned out to be an eligible gun owner. The sale, as an initial matter, would not have complied with §922(c)'s restrictions on absentee purchases."

 

[drgrant]

Was in DC Friday for a customer meeting, while at IAD there were some folks sitting at the bar who were heading out for some hunting in Montana talking about being on the lookout for some fairly niche/oddball older rifles (1900's through early 80's) and one of them told the other "Hey, if you are ever out and see one of these at a shop, buy it, tell me how much, and send to the shop in my town for me to pick up"

Dude next to us at the bar says these guys just conspired to make a straw purchase and drops an ATF badge on the bar.

Is that actually a straw purchase? I mean, you are sending it through the FFL network, not directly changing hands, etc.

I was a bit shocked that an ATF guy would be 6 Jack and Cokes deep on a Friday night at Dulles, but who knows.

That is 110% a straw as described.

That's how gay the law is.

 

[drgrant]

My guess is the ATF agent busted a gut telling other agents how he effed with you at the bar...

I guess, but that's actually a setup the feds consider a straw.

Yeah well it's worse than that.....what those 2 were discussing wasn't even a crime. They were discussing using an ffl at each end of the transfer

Wrong.

Abramski says the opposite of this.

Abramski used FFLs all throughout

If the money flows wrongly, you are f***ed.

 

[AJK129]

The bartender served that dude 6 Jack and cokes in 2 hours? I don’t know what the standard is for serving but that seems like a lot for an airport bar. Maybe he’s there regularly and they know he’s not driving.

Youve never played the 1 drink every flight delay game?

 

[LakeTrout]

Youve never played the 1 drink every flight delay game?

lol no. Sounds like a good time though.

 

[drgrant]

For those that want the " straw free " answer, the buyer should call the shop and put his own money on the gun and have it shipped to his FFL.

Doing it the way the 2 people described doing it is a great way to get a dealer to block both of them.

 

[AJK129]

lol no. Sounds like a good time though.

Even better on a per diem lol

 

[drgrant]

Abramski v United States would like to have a word with you.

"Abramski's false statement was material because had he revealed that he was purchasing the gun on Alvarez's behalf, the sale could not have proceeded under the law—even though Alvarez turned out to be an eligible gun owner. The sale, as an initial matter, would not have complied with §922(c)'s restrictions on absentee purchases."

This.

People need to shed themselves of the "republican npc based NRA/NSSF dream world" of straw puchases only being about prohibited persons.

The scope of the law is dangerously a lot wider than that.

 

[VTski4x4]

Almost a pint of liquor per drink?

If you don't count the ice - yep. Ice, pour to just below the rim, splash of mixer. Truth be told, when I was drinking, I was accidentally served a few full glasses of straight booze - usually bartender got distracted and there was no room for a mixer. There's a reason we tell rookies to be careful in Marblehead bars. One drink is usually enough to get someone absolutely shitfaced

 

[FalArAk]

 

[drgrant]

Only a straw purchase if guy #1 is purchasing the gun on behalf of guy #2 who couldn’t legally purchase it for himself.

Trying to find hard to find or collectors items and having them shipped to any FFL to be legally transferred to someone is not a straw purchase.

Cop is a fag and hope his job and entire agency become obsolete very soon.

Nope

 

[kevin9]

I guess, but that's actually a setup the feds consider a straw.
Wrong.

Abramski says the opposite of this.

Abramski used FFLs all throughout

If the money flows wrongly, you are f***ed.

What about person 1 putting a deposit down to hold a gun for person 2? Nothing gets shipped until person 2 contacts the dealer to complete the purchase.

 

[Masswhole]

For those that want the " straw free " answer, the buyer should call the shop and put his own money on the gun and have it shipped to his FFL.

Doing it the way the 2 people described doing it is a great way to get a dealer to block both of them.

How does putting down a deposit to hold gun for said friend factor into this?

 

[drgrant]

Yeah well it's worse than that.....what those 2 were discussing wasn't even a crime. They were discussing using an ffl at each end of the transfer

That.....
Doesn't ......
Matter.

Ask anyone on NES who has tried to run a group buy on guns without an FFL taking the money.... syreens, feds, grilling. NTOMSW got all of that treatment before he got banned. Thankfully they left him alone.