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Pardons for J6ers
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Bigfudge16
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I probably would have been a little more discriminating than to issue a blanket pardon. Generally speaking however this thing was blown way out of proportion and would've resulted in a half dozen arrests if it had occurred in downtown Boston rather than the capitol. I don't place the safety of DC politicians above any other American or feel that the capitol needs to be legally treated with any more respect than any other public place.
The most offensive part of this whole mess to me is what's highlighted below. How many people have been locked up or had their rights taken away for years while .gov tries their best to argue a case against them?
The most offensive part of this whole mess to me is what's highlighted below. How many people have been locked up or had their rights taken away for years while .gov tries their best to argue a case against them?
I'm not condoning what some of the J6 participants did, but the prosecution and punishment were beyond reasonable IMHO
Same thing for a couple of Pro Life protesters that are now doing years in Federal prison for mostly peaceful protests.
Same thing for a couple of Pro Life protesters that are now doing years in Federal prison for mostly peaceful protests.
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Rob Boudrie
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Biden pardoned the police officer who shot the unarmed protester at the event.
I wonder if the pardonees will get get a certificate suitable for framing. Even Hamas is doing this when they release hostages.
I wonder if the pardonees will get get a certificate suitable for framing. Even Hamas is doing this when they release hostages.
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I believe the new slogan is " Promises made, promises kept"
no surprise here.
He is starting the term like he was shot out of a cannon
no surprise here.
He is starting the term like he was shot out of a cannon
namedpipes
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Biden already took care of that. He pardoned his whole family in fact.
Biden pardons friends, family, associates. People who might have dirt on him. Remember, Presidential immunity only extends to official acts while president. What is an official act is something that can be argued.
Trump, on the other hand, pardoned people who opposed the Gov. Not really the same as actual criminals. And while I would have preferred he put a little more thought into the varying levels of the acts, he didn't do a complete blanket pardon. Some of them got their sentences commuted, but no pardon.
I am hoping that now that both sides have got this out of their system we can go back to not doing so much of the pardon thing.
Trump, on the other hand, pardoned people who opposed the Gov. Not really the same as actual criminals. And while I would have preferred he put a little more thought into the varying levels of the acts, he didn't do a complete blanket pardon. Some of them got their sentences commuted, but no pardon.
I am hoping that now that both sides have got this out of their system we can go back to not doing so much of the pardon thing.
This is dangerously close to saying "I know it's wrong, but look what someone else did" Which would demonstrate a major lack of moral strength. Right and wrong are not subject to the actions of others. What is right, doesn't need justifiation. And what is wrong, doesn't need excuses. The end does not justify the means.
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f*** them. Free the J6 hostages. The overwhelming majority are simply put political prisoners of the Left, many of whom did nothing more than assemble and protest. They should not be rotting in prison. It was a complete miscarriage of justice.
some dismiss their moral character easier than others. But you may want to consider another old saying "If someone will do it for you, they will do it to you". It's usually applied to lying but works just as well for any morally questionable actions.
Conspiracy to Obstruct Civil Rights would make an interesting class action suit.
Only if he was on the list of people providing testimony to the committee. I don’t think that there is any documentation that he did so. Shame about those terabytes of data Cheney and Co. wiped.
Tim_McD
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I wasnt onboard with a blanket pardon from the J6 “perps”….but once FJB gave a preemptive pardon to the entire committee - it kinda blows out the possibility that those defendants could get a fair and impartial outcome
They defendants have done more time than your avg perp….I am now perfectly happy with a full and unconditional pardon, along with the commutation of the ones that have rec’d a sentence
The J6 Committee members cannot be prosecuted, but they can be investigated
They defendants have done more time than your avg perp….I am now perfectly happy with a full and unconditional pardon, along with the commutation of the ones that have rec’d a sentence
The J6 Committee members cannot be prosecuted, but they can be investigated
alan226
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Better yet, then can be brought forward to testify and they can't claim the fifth....
mousegunguy
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‘Biden’ pardoned the ‘honorable’ judge Michael Conahan who destroyed the lives of 100s of innocent children by taking $ to put them in a for profit prison. A few of these poor kids ended up killing themselves.
So ‘Biden’ was cool with pardoning a sick F who abused children, for $. That tells you all you need to know.
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alan226
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I'd also like to see a red state find some state charges and do like NY or Georgia did to Trump
namedpipes
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As far as I could tell, the J6 "people" were guilty of... something, I'm sure. I mean stealing the podium. Some other frat pranks. Nothing like insurrection.
THAT view of their actions was imposed on them by a corrupt administration.
I thought we were BETTER than the Russians at least as far as not persecuting political opponents. The past 4 years proved THAT wrong, I guess.
namedpipes
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Assuming those are figures of speach and you are not really advocating cannibalism and literal bombs, well I wouldn't be heartbroken if the left caught a whiff of the "lawfare" they've been practicing.
Agreed , I don't think they deserved the harsh penalties handed down, like I'm sure Pelosi had her hand in making sure that guy who had his feet on her desk paid a heavier than deserved price.
The whole thing was a bad idea but definitely not a true insurrection by any means.
tuna
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It's already been done to us, and has been for quite a long time now. If Trump truly is Hitler like the left keeps saying, I'm willing to take a job handing out soap at the shower and pulling gold teeth from liberals after the smoke clears. The only thing I feel for the J6ers is jealousy that I wasn't there with them.
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