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here's mine ( for now until I sell it)
6.2L Diesel, 1986, EMP proof, 4WD..
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I figure that with a days worth of strategically welding some steel plates onto her, she'd be pretty invincible....albeit slow.![]()
My SHTF transport.
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(Shown at low tide)
Plenty of easily defendable islands to take over and make my temporary home.![]()
You probally SHOULD consider a "Bugg'in Out" plan.
Although I too feel most comfortable in my own home,its not always a viable option.Enviornmental conditions and/ or natural disasters i.e.hurricanes(Katrina), tornados,sunami's,monsoons,pathegins,approching chemical clouds,may force you to get mobilized.
A bug-out location & transport there,could help in avoiding the New Orleans SuperDome or the like.
It is awesome to have dependable trained buddies,who "Got your back" aswell as a wooded lot adjacent to your property.When "Diggin' in" just keep in mind NO PLACE IS 100% DEFENDABLE Have a plan to retreat & fight another day.The "Fort Apache" scenerio.dosn't always pan out!
You do raise a good point... Hmm, looks like i should push up my plans of buying a jeep![]()
Anybody have any ideas about transportation vehicles that don't use fossil fuels?
Anybody have any ideas about transportation vehicles that don't use fossil fuels?
Here are a few things:
If you're looking for short term disaster response (IE Hurricane, Flood, etc) the vehicle isn't going to make a huge difference, though something with off-road capability is going to help A LOT!
If you're looking for long term SHTF response (break-down in federal government, domestic / civil war, etc) the vehicle you choose will make a huge difference.
1) Fuel - as pointed out earlier, fossil fuels are the way to go currently. Moving a sadan sized electric car 3 miles takes 1kW-hour of energy. Current high-end solar pannels are about 250W/m^2 if I recall, so that's 4 hours of charge on a 1m pannel for 3 miles in a sedan. Small hybrids are very fuel efficient, but lack space for survival equipment.
With current technology, desiel is likely your best bet, especially if you can get an engin modified to use dual fuel (Biodesiel and conventional desiel). Desiel is easier to distill, stores better and will likely be more plentiful (#2 home heating oil is dyed desiel fuel).
I would recommend loading up with several cans, this allows much more refueling when fuel becomes available. - Mad Max's car had 2 huge 60 gal fuel tanks in the back.
2) Space - For a main vehicle, you're going to want enough space and capacity to carry your required survival gear. Keep in mind, the more weight you transport, the more fuel you'll need. Packing lighter does help a lot.
3) Mobility - Ideally, select a vehicle that can travel as many places as possible, off-road capability is highly desirable as roads will deteriorate quickly.
4) Durability - To elements, natural and man-made. Easier to fix the better. This vehicle may be your "home" for a while and conditions will deteriorate quickly.
5) Additional Modes of transportation - A mountain bike and a dirt bike are great secondary modes of transport once the main vehicle is in a suitable location. This will aid supply gathering, scouting and improve available range.
I wonder what a surplus one of these run$?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1st_MaxxPros_in_Iraq.jpg
I saw a few of those going down I-75 through my town on a flatbed.
SW Ohio on the I-75 corridor. Those are International truck chassis that are built in Springfield, OH. I bet some of the finish work was done at General Dynamics Land Systems tank plant (where M1 Abrams are made and refurbed) in Lima, about 45 miles north of here on 75.Where do you live,Fallujah?
Here is a nice example of something in the 40'-50' range.
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I have thought a lot about this. If this were a real SHTF scenario I would head out to sea. Unless you have a prepared place ready to go and IF you can get to it your fine. One problem during the trip and you are SOL. If you have a sailboat (must be over 40’ for intercontental travel) and the skills, you can go anywhere on the planet. No gas, electrical can be solar. Get a boat and a Class 3 license and something that fires in the .50 range (that could be mounted in a hurry) and you’re all set. Of course a Class 3 won’t count anywhere else so find a good place to hide it.
I know quite a few people who live on boats now. It’s not easy. Lack of sleep, crappy food and the ocean trying to kill you but people have spent months/years at sea fully provisioned. You could sail out in the middle of the night while the city is burning and come back 6 months (or years) later to see what is left.
Now unfortunately for me my wife doesn’t buy any of this so I’ll be heading to my parents place in Maine in my 99 Explorer.
Here is a nice example of something in the 40'-50' range.
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