The Conference Committee has sent official language out - h.4885

[FancyGunz]

That's not even expensive at this point. Even in free states during covid they were getting that easily in some places. Hell during one of the obamascares I paid like $175 for an LRB inbounded. Admittedly its much nicer than an Anderson but functionally similar

I was in a shop during the "panic" when a cop walked in and asked for a stripped lower. The shop quoted him $275 for an Anderson.... cop swore and walked out.

 

[MGnoob]

I was in a shop during the "panic" when a cop walked in and asked for a stripped lower. The shop quoted him $275 for an Anderson.... cop swore and walked out.

I’ll be jerking off while I go to bed later thinking about this…..

 

[MGnoob]

For f***s sake guys, you gotta get one of these. I haven’t looked at it in about 10 years, but they’re making all kinds of new stuff it’s registered and the Maxwell’s just a part you could do whatever you want is assuming you already have the magazines
I only own one because I only have so many hands
Usually I “transition”. For my rifle to my side arm it be awkward transitioning between two rifles…. you see the trigger guard with the defense in it though otherwise it’s a bitch.

Hydra Weaponry | Product categories Hydra 15 Lower Receivers

www.hydraweaponry.com

 

[MGnoob]

I’ve tried to edit my last post 12 times my goddamn hands broke. I can’t text.

The only thing I will say about the above company as I had to take a file to their 9 mm Magwell they weren’t much help but it’s when they just started. I’m sure their shits fine now.

 

[MGnoob]

I can’t find it on their website like 10 years ago they said they were gonna make a .308 mag well… looks like that never happened or at least can’t find it either way I usually run colt mags in my 9 mm AR. I’ve got cases of HK mags. I should buy the HK mag Magwell…

 

[Harry Christopher]

Not only does the Republic license lawful gun owners but it now appears that here in the Back of Beyond they even license bears.........we have truly reached the tipping point........who knew indeed......

Too bad that they don't license politicians......

 

[EMTDAD]

from Instagram... help is on it's way. Sorry if this has been posted already.

 

[MGnoob]

Information is power.
Even if you don't GAS about compliance you still should know where the line actually is.

I’m definitely lying about my compliance.. was I lying then or am I lying now?

I really hope the interpretation is as broad as you guys think. I guess now I’m in compliance.

All right, you guys don’t wanna hear it but no matter how it works out. It works out in my favor.

 

[MGnoob]

Not only does the Republic license lawful gun owners but it now appears that here in the Back of Beyond they even license bears.........we have truly reached the tipping point........who knew indeed......

Too bad that they don't license politicians......

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You’re allowed to shoot those bears with a collar.. too bad politicians don’t wear collars

 

[1903Collector]

At this point people staying in MA have two choices, keep your guns and roll the dice. If you can't come to terms with that get rid of all your shit.

 

[pastera]

For f***s sake guys, you gotta get one of these. I haven’t looked at it in about 10 years, but they’re making all kinds of new stuff it’s registered and the Maxwell’s just a part you could do whatever you want is assuming you already have the magazines
I only own one because I only have so many hands
Usually I “transition”. For my rifle to my side arm it be awkward transitioning between two rifles…. you see the trigger guard with the defense in it though otherwise it’s a bitch.

Hydra Weaponry | Product categories Hydra 15 Lower Receivers

www.hydraweaponry.com

Why when you can buy a bunch of dedicated stripped lowers and/or maxwell adapters for the price of one hydra.

 

[pastera]

I can’t find it on their website like 10 years ago they said they were gonna make a .308 mag well… looks like that never happened or at least can’t find it either way I usually run colt mags in my 9 mm AR. I’ve got cases of HK mags. I should buy the HK mag Magwell…

308 has a min overall length shorter than the max length for 5.56
Not possible to add a 308 magazine well

 

[AJK129]

Well my boss approved me asking to go fully remote for my job.

 

[Picton]

from Instagram... help is on it's way. Sorry if this has been posted already.
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That's why most of my donations go to them. Not all, but most.

 

[MGnoob]

308 has a min overall length shorter than the max length for 5.56
Not possible to add a 308 magazine well

You clearly didn’t click the link. It’s a receiver. The part with the fire control group is the receiver. You press the button to slide off the magwell… it just makes it so that I don’t have to move my trigger group from gun to gun when I want to swap caliber in my M-16

If you’re at a shoot or in the woods, would you take shit apart? You always gotta put it in a trash bag when you do it otherwise, with the springs and parts fly everywhere you lose the goddamn things.

 

[pastera]

You clearly didn’t click the link. It’s a receiver. The part with the fire control group is the receiver. You press the button to slide off the magwell… it just makes it so that I don’t have to move my trigger group from gun to gun when I want to swap caliber in my M-16

If you’re at a shoot or in the woods, would you take shit apart? You always gotta put it in a trash bag when you do it otherwise, with the springs and parts fly everywhere you lose the goddamn things.

I clicked the link
It's $525 with a magwell or around $300 without.
So for a receiver with two magwells you're looking around $750-800
I can get two separate lowers with decent triggers in each for that.

And if you're rolling around in the woods, are you really going to be carrying a different magwell, magazines and upper?
Novel solution to a problem no one actually has.

 

[MGnoob]

I clicked the link
It's $525 with a magwell or around $300 without.
So for a receiver with two magwells you're looking around $750-800
I can get two separate lowers with decent triggers in each for that.

And if you're rolling around in the woods, are you really going to be carrying a different magwell, magazines and upper?
Novel solution to a problem no one actually has.

It’s $125 for the receiver.
I just don’t have the HK Mag well . It didn’t exist when I bought gun and they were going out about the 308 forever….

I’m just saying I’ve got magazines for everything guns I don’t even own yet.

I have an unfired HK mp5 and about 40 magazines for it. I’m just trying to repurpose things.

The ar15/M-16 is very simple design. To play around here HK are gonna need a trash bag otherwise shits going all over the place.

 

[pastera]

It’s $125 for the receiver.
I just don’t have the HK Mag well . It didn’t exist when I bought gun and they were going out about the 308 forever….

I’m just saying I’ve got magazines for everything guns I don’t even own yet.

I have an unfired HK mp5 and about 40 magazines for it. I’m just trying to repurpose things.

The ar15/M-16 is very simple design. To play around here HK are gonna need a trash bag otherwise shits going all over the place.

Screen shot from your link
$525

 

[MGnoob]

Screen shot from your link
$525

Yeah, that’s with the Magwell. The receiver is $125…..?

 

[JDL]

Screen shot from your link
$525

That stuff looks like an accadent ready to happen.

 

[MGnoob]

That stuff looks like an accadent ready to happen.

It definitely is you gotta really pay attention to what the f*** you doing or else you end up with a kaboom

 

[Cap'n Mike]

Argue with me then. Healey did not come out in 2016. Some lame politician held a press conference and all the panty wetters acted like Moses came off the mount with new tablets. I have OPENLY sold ARs and AR receivers uninterrupted since that press conference. I comply with the ACTUAL law. According to the press conference receivers of AWs are AWs so my selling them would be illegal. According to the press conference once an AW, always an AW so all the guns I did compliance on would be illegal. I have sold easily 4000 rifles or lowers since that date and the state is well aware of this. They regularly call my chief asking him to make me stop. He asks what law was broken to which they sputter (they is the AG office). I have multiple emails from state officials stating that the sale of receivers is unregulated by MA.

I have never been arrested. I am the ideal person to go after for enforcement of Healey yet I am still posting here and calling out panty wetters.

NOTHING in H4885 requires you to maintain any type of feature compliance with grandfathered ASFs. MGL 140 131M (a) says ASFs are illegal. (b) says any ASF lawfully possessed by a LTC holder or MA dealer is not subject to (a). Done. Since it is not subject to (a), the fact that it has all these evil features does not matter. It is still not illegal since it is not subject to (a).

That is the law they wrote. Live it. Love it. But if you are going to wet your panties, do it in private. Or join a GOAL Kumbaya session. They seem to like your interpretation contrary to what words are actually in the law.

I plan to do what I have always done. PUBLICLY comply with the ACTUAL written words of the law and not care what any politician interprets or statist lawyer who used to work for the state says it all means.

Not all heros wear Capes.

 

[SkilledSovereignty]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGlWXqlqGmM


Thoughts on the commentary 30mins in discussing training on LEO running serials and charges on post 2016 rifles?

 

[not new guy]

He's basing it on what he's heard from "lawyers, GOAL," and his intuition. We know what Guida said, and what GOAL said, but that doesn't mean it's reality.

 

[Jsfitzgerald85]

anyone catch the start of Cape Gun Works live stream just now? I missed the very start. Something about Healey signing an emergency preamble to the bill.

 

[not new guy]

These douchebags have a paywall in front of this article, but someone mentions a preamble in it per google.

Healey "Absolutely" Opposes Suspension Of New Gun Law

Gov. Maura Healey said Monday she would oppose gun owners' potential effort to suspend a new firearm safety law as part of their longer-term strategy to repeal the legislation through

www.statehousenews.com

STATE HOUSE, BOSTON, AUG. 13, 2024....Gov. Maura Healey said Monday she would oppose gun owners' potential effort to suspend a new firearm safety law as part of their longer-term strategy to repeal the legislation through a ballot question in 2026.

The governor has the authority to file an emergency preamble to the law to prevent it from being suspended during the petition process. A Healey spokesperson did not directly answer a News Service question Tuesday about whether the governor would pursue that option to protect the implementation of the bill she signed on July 25.

"In Massachusetts, strong gun laws save lives," the spokesperson said in a statement Tuesday. "It's why we came together to enact our state's most significant gun safety legislation in a decade. We are confident that Massachusetts voters will support these efforts to keep our neighbors, our communities, and our state safe."

Healey seemed to offer a stronger stance on blocking the law's suspension on Monday afternoon.

"Oh absolutely," Healey told reporters when asked whether she would oppose petitioners' attempt to suspend the law before their referendum seeking to repeal the law makes its way onto a statewide election ballot.

"I mean, this is another example of commonsense gun reform legislation," Healey continued. "It's legislation that I signed that had the widespread support of law enforcement, and it's just the right move we need to make in the state to make it safer, right. And so yeah, we'll see whatever they do or wherever that goes, but I was proud to be able to sign that into law."

The law is designed to crack down on the proliferation of ghost guns, expand the state's red flag law that allows courts to take guns away from people who are a threat to themselves or others, and add to the list of places where individuals are forbidden from carrying firearms, among other provisions.

Laws generally take effect 90 days after being signed by the governor. Some parts of the gun bill are slated to take effect months later, including provisions dealing with training seminars for licensing authorities and collecting data surrounding crimes involving firearms.

Jim Wallace, executive director of the Gun Owners' Action League, called the law a "flat-out ban on the Second Amendment." Wallace said GOAL won't be organizing the referendum effort, but initial signatures jumpstarting the petition process to repeal the law have been filed with the state elections division.

Petitioners must file 49,716 signatures by Oct. 9 to get the law suspended upon the filing of the petitions.

Lawmakers did not attach an emergency preamble to the bill during their lengthy deliberations over it.

The state constitution does not outline a specific timeframe for Healey to file an emergency preamble, instead stating the governor can file it "at any time before the election at which it is to be submitted to the people on referendum."

Healey would file with Galvin a "statement declaring that in [her] opinion the immediate preservation of the public peace, health, safety or convenience requires that such law should take effect forthwith and that it is an emergency law and setting forth the facts constituting the emergency," according to the Constitution. With the statement filed, the law "shall take effect without suspension, or if such law has been so suspended such suspension shall thereupon terminate and such law shall thereupon take effect," the constitution also says.

In 2015, former Gov. Charlie Baker filed an emergency preamble for a bill dealing with North Reading land parcels. In a message to Galvin, Baker declared "that the immediate preservation of the public convenience requires that the attached Act … should take effect immediately." In that case, Baker filed for the emergency preamble on the same day he signed the bill.

"Because a delay in the effective date of this Act would frustrate the Act's intent to ensure the prompt disposition of the property at issue, I further declare that, in my opinion, it is in the public interest that this Act take effect immediately," Baker wrote.

So it sounds like she can still file the emergency preamble if it looks like the referendum might happen. The preamble will prevent it from being suspended.

 

[Picton]

These douchebags have a paywall in front of this article, but someone mentions a preamble in it per google.

Healey "Absolutely" Opposes Suspension Of New Gun Law

Gov. Maura Healey said Monday she would oppose gun owners' potential effort to suspend a new firearm safety law as part of their longer-term strategy to repeal the legislation through

www.statehousenews.com

So it sounds like she can still file the emergency preamble if it looks like the referendum might happen. The preamble will prevent it from being suspended.

I’d just noncomply even harder, daddy.

The timing of that preamble, plus statements of hers regarding the repeal effort, would all become something to be litigated. “Oh… it wasn’t an emergency the day you signed it, but two weeks later it was? With a repeal effort starting in the interim? Hmm.”

 

[42!]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGlWXqlqGmM


Thoughts on the commentary 30mins in discussing training on LEO running serials and charges on post 2016 rifles?

If they pay to train officers they will be looking for a return on that. Remember, your rights are not important to them.

 

[HorizontalHunter]

These douchebags have a paywall in front of this article, but someone mentions a preamble in it per google.

Healey "Absolutely" Opposes Suspension Of New Gun Law

Gov. Maura Healey said Monday she would oppose gun owners' potential effort to suspend a new firearm safety law as part of their longer-term strategy to repeal the legislation through

www.statehousenews.com

So it sounds like she can still file the emergency preamble if it looks like the referendum might happen. The preamble will prevent it from being suspended.

Without a doubt she would/will do it….and she won’t do it right now. She will make us expend our resources first and do it at the last minute.

 

[TLB]

These douchebags have a paywall in front of this article, but someone mentions a preamble in it per google.

Healey "Absolutely" Opposes Suspension Of New Gun Law

Gov. Maura Healey said Monday she would oppose gun owners' potential effort to suspend a new firearm safety law as part of their longer-term strategy to repeal the legislation through

www.statehousenews.com

So it sounds like she can still file the emergency preamble if it looks like the referendum might happen. The preamble will prevent it from being suspended.

Tyrants tyranting