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Or get the original Skorpion...And this is the reason I am shying away from the AR-9 PCC platform. Might just be fluke but been watching online videos of these things jamming, and happens among various manufacturers. Feeling a bit more confident in a PCC where the caliber is specific to the platform, hence the Scorpion. Just having a hard time swallowing the cost BUT if it’s as reliable as I’ve seen I may just do it.
I just looked up that ammo, and it's $32.50 to $32.99 at the few places I saw it. For twenty rounds. Sorry but $1.65/rd is ridiculously expensive. At least for a range day / training. For actual home defense purposes nothing is "too" expensive, but that's just silly, for what it is.
Should I be looking at other platforms?
Have been very happy with my Scorpion. 100% reliable and there is a ton of after market for it.
I just looked up that ammo, and it's $32.50 to $32.99 at the few places I saw it. For twenty rounds. Sorry but $1.65/rd is ridiculously expensive. At least for a range day / training. For actual home defense purposes nothing is "too" expensive, but that's just silly, for what it is.
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Have been very happy with my Scorpion. 100% reliable and there is a ton of after market for it.
2 particular models that have caught my attention recently. The Scorpion EVO S1 or the JRC Just Right Carbine AR style. Both in 9mm format. For home defense and range practice , help me decide.
This platform top of mind for purposes mentioned above due to ammo $$$, ammo availability, and shootability. Should I be looking at other platforms.
You’re pretty much on point. Though, if I had to engage anybody beyond room distances, I’d go with a rifle caliber. Pistol caliber is going to be 10 yards and in for me if I have a choice. 25 yards at a stretch.
There are people in this thread saying that if hey have a rifle/carbine, it’s going to be chambered in a rifle round. Fair enough, but a PCC can be shortened to something crazy like a 4-8” barrel and still have minimal noise/concussion. The same can’t be said for a rifle round. All those SWAT teams that switched to 5.56 from their 9mm carbines have good earpro. You waking up in the middle of the night will not.
It’s all about trade space and compromise. Some prefer the better terminal ballistics of rifle rounds and don’t care about compactness or noise/concussion.
... All those SWAT teams that switched to 5.56 from their 9mm carbines have good earpro. You waking up in the middle of the night will not.
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Have been very happy with my Scorpion. 100% reliable and there is a ton of after market for it.
I bought a Scorpion a few months ago and love it. Spent under $10 on new springs and the trigger is muy bueno now. 100% reliable and seriously fun.Tell us about the trigger pull...
I bought a Scorpion a few months ago and love it. Spent under $10 on new springs and the trigger is muy bueno now. 100% reliable and seriously fun.
FYI - CZ Scorpion EVO3 Reduced Weight Trigger Spring Kit – HB IndustriesI’ll tell my neighbor.
From what I’ve been reading PCC is a solid choice at 50 yards and in. For a home defense platform, I cannot imagine needing anything past the 50.
My home range will allow all most pistol calibers, so this seems like an ideal choice in terms of training.
Is there something that I am not taking into consideration?
I think a very real possibility in our lifetime will be defending the neighborhood from armed looters or gangs. An AR would be perfect for this. For the home especially in MA a Glock-mag PCC or SBR makes more sense than an EVO or MPX with gimped mags.
I also like the idea of a CAA for home or car trunk. But it's a lot of money if you include the Glock.
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You can get MPX mags in larger capacities if you know where to look?
I think a very real possibility in our lifetime will be defending the neighborhood from armed looters or gangs. An AR would be perfect for this. For the home especially in MA a Glock-mag PCC or SBR makes more sense than an EVO or MPX with gimped mags.
I also like the idea of a CAA for home or car trunk. But it's a lot of money if you include the Glock.
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How about an Uzi surplus 32 rounder in an EVO? Enjoyed testing a prototype adapter in mine. Slicker than snot on a doorknob.You can get MPX mags in larger capacities if you know where to look?
If you mean in NH I know. problem is using them in MA in a defensive shoot. That wouldn't go well.
How about an Uzi surplus 32 rounder in an EVO? Enjoyed testing a prototype adapter in mine. Slicker than snot on a doorknob.
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I have one also. A bonus is that hi-cap pre ban magazines are available. (Same as S&W Model 59s.)Pistol Caliber Carbines have been around for awhile. My Marlin Camp9 since 1985. Easy to shoot for kids, women elderly, new shooters, and you get better ballistics as wellView attachment 310972