Vehicle Rust prevention/under coating suggestions?

Boghog1 said:
nothing is one & done when it comes to rust, at a minimum it should be inspected and touched up every other year with a wax based product and annually for oil based.
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Maybe - but compared to coatings where they say you can't underwash, needs to be redone yearly, it's quite durable. You'd have to read it but they say essentially, lifetime protection.

The areas exposed to washing which get the hardwax, really it's only removed via steam or solvent - your leaf springs move it aside, paint could flake or something, but it doesn't just wash away.
 
Unless you’re by the ocean, I don’t see the point. unless you plan to keep it more than. 10 or 15 years… just buy another vehicle and hope somebody else did all that nonsense
 
teamRR said:
Maybe - but compared to coatings where they say you can't underwash, needs to be redone yearly, it's quite durable. You'd have to read it but they say essentially, lifetime protection.

The areas exposed to washing which get the hardwax, really it's only removed via steam or solvent - your leaf springs move it aside, paint could flake or something, but it doesn't just wash away.
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I've had the wax on my truck for 6 years now, unless you don't live in the northeast, or if you don't use your vehicle in the winter wax still needs to be inspected and touched up, any rust found needs to be dealt with. There is a reason body guys call it cancer, rust spreads.
 
Markymk25 said:
For those in metrowest area interested in waxoyl, I used Forte’s in Framingham on my new Jeep last year.

And before anyone says anything about my vehicle choice I’m straight, I hate rubber ducks and I have well over 1,000 miles off-road in 4-low climbing rocks in the last year.
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Do you have the mean eyes grille and the jeep wave decals on mirror? 😁
 
MGnoob said:
Unless you’re by the ocean, I don’t see the point. unless you plan to keep it more than. 10 or 15 years… just buy another vehicle and hope somebody else did all that nonsense
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I had a 2010 Tundra I bought brand new and sold a couple months ago. It had some fairly serious rust damage although the frame was still good.

I tend to keep my vehicles a long time because I don’t drive much. If I had spent the $700 to get it undercoated l, I probably could have sold the Tubdra for $8,000 or so more than I got for it.

I also had to do about $3,000 in repairs while I owned it due to rust. I think undercoating is a good investment and I will never NOT do it again. I also live nowhere near the ocean.
 
I had my 2010 tacoma done with Noxudol at new england undercoat in 2021, right after I moved here from North Carolina. There is rust where they didn't coat (just the hitch), everything else including bolts is rust-free and I can still work on stuff without heating bolts etc.
 
APFSDS said:
I had my 2010 tacoma done with Noxudol at new england undercoat in 2021, right after I moved here from North Carolina. There is rust where they didn't coat (just the hitch), everything else including bolts is rust-free and I can still work on stuff without heating bolts etc.
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All my new vehicles get Noxudul right off (same place), I also have the new vehicles at work done as well. They also apply cavity wax everywhere as well as part of the overall application.
 
My best friend is a huge advocate for fluid film coating everything. He did my 2001 Ford Expedition a couple weeks ago, it’s an AZ truck that had never seen salt so rust free. He said the Expedition was the most challenging vehicle he’s done because of the complexities of the frame compared to pickups. He used about a gallon, he said most trucks take about half a gallon. I will need to drive it this winter and plan on using it on Nauset Beach since we sold my wife’s Tacoma. The Tacoma started as a lease we bought out, I never coated it because I didn’t plan on buying it. There was significant corrosion after 3.5 years.

I haven’t coated my 2021 Bronco as I don’t plan on driving it in winter. I haven’t coated the 2024 Tesla Y as I plan on trading it within 2-3 years for the new Juniper model.
 
In God We Trust said:
I had a 2010 Tundra I bought brand new and sold a couple months ago. It had some fairly serious rust damage although the frame was still good.

I tend to keep my vehicles a long time because I don’t drive much. If I had spent the $700 to get it undercoated l, I probably could have sold the Tubdra for $8,000 or so more than I got for it.

I also had to do about $3,000 in repairs while I owned it due to rust. I think undercoating is a good investment and I will never NOT do it again. I also live nowhere near the ocean.
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Yes if you plan on keeping it 10-15-20 years IF you csn get on the preventive/corrosion inhibitor program and keep it up . You may have less rust related issues.
It maybe be just as good to learn to regularly give the underside and hidden spaces a deep rinse more often .


View: https://youtu.be/ca84n7oFczk?si=YTt8N1TJ0EIHATgL
 
I spent a few hours blowing out crevices and nocking off loose rust , it sucked and anyone doing this as a source of income/profit. God bless.

I was going to apply Corroseal with a sprayer and things did not go well , lol
I did not get a spray pattern out of the tip
So I flooded the hidden areas best I could and will have to figure out a different way.
I do not want to brush this stuff on . I want ti spray it in all the hidden spots.
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Woodsloafer said:
All my new vehicles get Noxudul right off (same place), I also have the new vehicles at work done as well. They also apply cavity wax everywhere as well as part of the overall application.
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If you have the chance to do it right from new and keep it up probably game quite a few years at the end of its life. My vehicle is 14 almost 15 years old. I sent them off an online quote for their rustorarion process

Return response was $750 min need visual inspection to finalize. I was expecting $1000 min so not far off from what I had in mind. I’m guessing if I bring it in and they actually look at it it’s probably gonna spike to well over $2000. Just a few hours I spent by myself doing what I did was nowhere near enough to be a really good job. Heck I can pretty much strip my bed and cab off and do a frame off restoration myself, but it’s just not worth it when the vehicle is 15 years old Already and the rust has gone as far as it has. Maybe someday when the stars align and I have a garage big enough and plenty of time and it’s not my primary vehicle might see some work to 10 years extended life. That’s probably not gonna happen.
 
mac1911 said:
If you have the chance to do it right from new and keep it up probably game quite a few years at the end of its life. My vehicle is 14 almost 15 years old. I sent them off an online quote for their rustorarion process

Return response was $750 min need visual inspection to finalize. I was expecting $1000 min so not far off from what I had in mind. I’m guessing if I bring it in and they actually look at it it’s probably gonna spike to well over $2000. Just a few hours I spent by myself doing what I did was nowhere near enough to be a really good job. Heck I can pretty much strip my bed and cab off and do a frame off restoration myself, but it’s just not worth it when the vehicle is 15 years old Already and the rust has gone as far as it has. Maybe someday when the stars align and I have a garage big enough and plenty of time and it’s not my primary vehicle might see some work to 10 years extended life. That’s probably not gonna happen.
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At that point it can be practical to get a new frame for some vehicles. Though without a body on there's a lot you can do.

Wouldn't it be nice if they hot dip galvanized them? They have much better paint processes now, but comparatively galvanized trailers get dipped in salt water and go practically forever with about 0 maintenance to the frame itself.
 
teamRR said:
At that point it can be practical to get a new frame for some vehicles. Though without a body on there's a lot you can do.

Wouldn't it be nice if they hot dip galvanized them? They have much better paint processes now, but comparatively galvanized trailers get dipped in salt water and go practically forever with about 0 maintenance to the frame itself.
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They might galvanize them if they actually wanted them to last. Unfortunately planned obsolescence is the name of the game, they’d rather have us buy more new vehicles every 10 years than make the current ones last 20 years.

This does make me wonder about buying a new truck, stripping everything off the frame, then having it galvanized. It would be easier to buy a new frame and have it galvanized then transfer everything over like Toyota was doing a few years back.
 
teamRR said:
At that point it can be practical to get a new frame for some vehicles. Though without a body on there's a lot you can do.

Wouldn't it be nice if they hot dip galvanized them? They have much better paint processes now, but comparatively galvanized trailers get dipped in salt water and go practically forever with about 0 maintenance to the frame itself.
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Frame replacement might be practical if you can do it yourself. if you can find a frame or at least used frame that’s worth the swap
 
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