Micro 9 suggestions?

sig shooter said:
I strongly advise against purse carry. It’s very slow to draw and may run afoul of the MA standard of keeping the pistol “in your direct control”. I would suggest the Enigma system. What is the PHLster Enigma concealment holster, and how does it work?
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Unfortunately. Purse carry is the reality. Wrong, right best worst. But it is the only way it is going to happen.

Buying, yet another, bag. That in this case is purpose made for ccw, becomes a feature and a bonus for her.
 
jkelly1229 said:
Did she ever try one of the hidden compartment ones I've been tempted to get my wife one
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She hasn’t tried one of those. She likes the pocket holster with the yoga pants because it has no sharp edges or clip like a traditional IWB holster and the yoga pants are form fitting and they hold the holster wherever she puts it. She does some lifting at work and she can carry it all day very comfortably
 
whatluck said:
for anyone who'se reading this that is NOT learning impaired

the odds of getting a weapon out of a backpack or purse during a fight are literally 0
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And when you get woken up in the middle of the night, 0300, from a sound sleep by a frantically ringing doorbell, you'll find out how proficient you are at opening your bedside safe the first time too!
Not a biometric either, a basic mechanical simplex lock mechanism.
Two tries, about 8 seconds = DEAD, if it truly was a bad person inside the house.
But at least the children were safe because the firearm was locked up to comply with MA laws at all times.
 
Rocky Mosasaurus said:
Never, I’m not a homo.

OP: Go with the P365 and tell her to IWB like a normal person. It is the least micro option of the above, best capacity, and shoots better than the other single stack options. Next question.
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It doesnt have to even be IWB, just some form of on body carry. Thigh, chest, whatever.

seanc said:
Unfortunately. Purse carry is the reality. Wrong, right best worst. But it is the only way it is going to happen.

Buying, yet another, bag. That in this case is purpose made for ccw, becomes a feature and a bonus for her.
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Its almost nearly a waste of time and at worst a theft / legal liability in MA.

It doesn't have to be iwb, but on body carry is the only non retarded method here.

I sold handguns to a fair amount of unaccompanied women. Very few of them were interested in something lame like purse carry. We didn't have a lot of female oriented holsters but id always try to point them in the right direction. These women were interested in figuring out solutions like its a task for them.they want to win at. Without that level of interest its just a waste of time.

Women that don't consider purse carry to being anything other than a contingency/last resort method are not /really/ interested in carrying a gun. I hate to be that guy but it is what it is, only thing that might change that is another woman telling her so. (For example, if she meets a woman who actually uses a flashbang or a thigh holster, or a female iwb holster with a "cute" looking sweater as a cover garment, the light might go on that she's 10 steps behind the curve. )
 
@seanc i have a bunch of friends who have wives with LTCs that think they carry in a purse. Those guns are /ALL/ rotting in safes right now collecting dust. 🤣
 
drgrant said:
@seanc i have a bunch of friends who have wives with LTCs that think they carry in a purse. Those guns are /ALL/ rotting in safes right now collecting dust. 🤣
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Very possible.

But… we have been spending a lot of time in FL. Eventually moving down there. It is a different world. welcome to America!
She has had numerous discussions with many women. Many carry. And she is interested in getting the Fl permit.

So major steps in the right direction.

Purse carry, ideally with a purpose built rig. Is the only viable sell right now. Ideal? No. But, a massive interim step. Once she achieves a comfort level with that. Then other possibilities may open. A whole new wardrobe to support iwb? Maybe. Deciding to g43 is too something and opting for something else?

And being in Fl.. with a pack of other supportive, and carrying women. And just a whole cultural mind set shift. Is a massive positive reinforcement that could translate to a comfort level in mass. For many women down here the mind set is more “how can you NOT protect yourself?” Different world!
 
drgrant said:
I hate to be that guy but it is what it is, only thing that might change that is another woman telling her so. (For example, if she meets a woman who actually uses a flashbang or a thigh holster, or a female iwb holster with a "cute" looking sweater as a cover garment, the light might go on that she's 10 steps behind the curve. )
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1000% Agee.
The only thing that is going to move things in that direction is female peer pressure or acceptance or reinforcement.

But e ONLY thing that is going to start that processs is getting over that (massive) hump of first carrying the gun in the fist place.

If I give her my Beretta 92 a shoulder rig and a photographer vest. Or my full size 1911 wi a nice holster and a jacket. That may be optimal. But, it’s a non starter. The process has to start for her in a method that works for her. After that, it can b tweaked and optimized. But, you have to start somewhere and made into an accepted, workable choice.

This will not likely be the final set up. But a first step.
 
seanc said:
Looking for a single stack Micro 9 for the gf..
365, g43, PPS M2, others?

I am a Glock fan, and also really liked the original PPS.. no experience with the 365 or others.
She generally steals my seecamp.. time for her to have her own..

She’d rally like a Tiffany blue or pink…. But, that could always be ceracoated later..

Suggestions?
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PM9. Best Mico nine.
 
M1911 said:
Carrying a gun loose in her purse is a really, really bad idea. Unless she buys a purse designed to carry a gun, or she attaches a holster to her purse, she is taking a huge risk of an ND.
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Although it might seem like women have a lot of ways to carry, most are sh*tty ways, specially for women that are fit.

IWB - can't because panta are too tight.
Pocket - too small
Purse - bad idea, too slow. But better than anything. However, what happens when going out with a different purse?
Bra - yeah, LOL.
Appendix- prints too much if she is small and wears proper shirts, but if thought out can be done.

IWB 5 O'clock is usually a good spot if a woman has a nice a** -- per my girlfriend, that is how she carries.
 
M1911 said:
Carrying a gun loose in her purse is a really, really bad idea. Unless she buys a purse designed to carry a gun, or she attaches a holster to her purse, she is taking a huge risk of an ND.
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All the city slicker homeboys carry like that now tho. 5-O rolls up on you, easy to drop the whole bag and run and you don't have anything illegal on you anymore. I think the operators in Ukraine and their M-TAC popularized man-purse carry again. Didn't see this take off until around 2020ish.

 
M1911 said:
My point exactly. Unless she is going to buy a purse designed for CCW, purse carry isn't going to help in most situations.
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Maybe the bad guy will choke to death on the 9 year old peppermint candy that all women seem to have somewhere in the bottom of their purse?
 
drgrant said:
@seanc i have a bunch of friends who have wives with LTCs that think they carry in a purse. Those guns are /ALL/ rotting in safes right now collecting dust. 🤣
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I thought the classic recommendation you'll get from a gun shop guy behind the counter when asked 'what's the perfect first GURL-GUN' he'll show you a S&W Ladysmith? Perfect first GURL-GUN and nice and tiny, perfect for a purse.
 
Not exactly a 'micro-nine' like the amazing HK CC9, but the Walther PDP-Female is a great piece if you can get over the fact it's also a GURL-GUN.

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G4Y4HK said:
I thought the classic recommendation you'll get from a gun shop guy behind the counter when asked 'what's the perfect first GURL-GUN' he'll show you a S&W Ladysmith? Perfect first GURL-GUN and nice and tiny, perfect for a purse.
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Thankfully most of this is rare now unless it's a shitty shop.

Thankfully I never had to have the talk with a husband who was trying to buy a " wife gun " .

Basically the deal is carrying a gun is a pain in the ass. (Yes, for those of us doing it for 20 years it's not a big lift, but for new people its annoying as f***) One has to accept this burden up front or nothing is happening. If the want for her to carry is external and not internal, it's never happening, and buying her a gun isn't going to change that. There's a minimum commitment required. "Imma put it in my purse" like it's a can of altoids is not a commitment. Show her a good small stream can of like fox labs OC. " You want to carry a gun? If you can't manage carrying this on body, lets not waste our time with a gun, because lets be honest, you're never carrying it. "
 
fencer said:
Maybe the bad guy will choke to death on the 9 year old peppermint candy that all women seem to have somewhere in the bottom of their purse?
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Bad guy: "gak....ughth.... gak... fack...." (turns blue)
Thinking: "imma bout to die cause this bitch bot those candies without the hole in the middle" (passes out, dies)

🤣
 
You should have her try out one of the small 380 pistols, such as LCP Max, Bodyguard 2.0; very easy to carry (AIWB, Pocket, ankle, etc).

Purse carry is likely to end up arming a perpetrator.
It will also need to be in a holster of some kind, which would mean lots of fumbling around.
 
Something to keep in mind: a 9mm Micro recoil is as strong as 40S&W Glock 23. It is not the best self-defense/first pistol for a lady. G19/VP9 in 9mm is easier to handle. VP9 has those "ears" in the back of the slide to make racking easier and its paddle system for mag release is a lot easier to handle for someone with long nails.

If Micro is a must, Sig 365 Rose edition makes things easier. It's a 380ACP with a compensator.
 

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